Hirano to Kagiura - Vol. 6 Ch. 28

[MangaDex]

 

[Tadakyuni]

Wow, this feels like such positive AroAce rep! I'm ace and while I don't get repulsed, I'm definitely super choosy about who and how I touch, especially with more intimate things like hugs.

I'm really impressed by how the author's exploring Hirano's feelings: what he's coming to understand about himself, and what romance looks/feels like to him. It's so fresh and exciting to see in a genre that's typically known for guys kissing within the first chapter and/or dragging stories out with romantic trope nonsense.

 

[wxsmiku]

thank you for uploading 🥺🫶

 

[tictokgaming111]

As an Aroace person I am super happy. I love this. I have a lot questions about love. I still can't understand exactly what it means but I am now clear that I don't want any romantic relationship as of now. I pondered a lot about it when my friends ask about love. So seeing Hirano ponder makes a lot of sense. I hope he will get that there are different forms of love and choose something that he is comfortable with.. I mean sasaki and miyano manga teases that so I am happy.

 

[MedievalKnight1337]

I know most people will read this series under the impression that it is a BL manga, so most will be expecting kisses and romantic scenes, but I genuinely can't see Hirano doing extremely romantic gestures unless it's to try it out or to make Kagiura happy. As an aroace person I heavily relate to him—having certain limitations on what type of physical intimacy is ok for me, wanting to care for someone deeply yet not having romantic feelings, etc. The perfect portrayal of their relationship, IMO, would be if they're in a queerplatonic relationship—something not quite romantic as lovers but a relationship equally as, or even more important and intimate

 

[NicoLeila]

I'm glad to see the replies to this chap because I'm a cishet and I wondered if I understood correctly that Hirano was at least ace. I don't remember an instance in which I followed an ace/aroace character this close before, which makes me now understand how such a person sees romance in a context as explicit as Kagiura being openly in love with him.
I'm probably going to take Hirano's amazing development as an example if I want to create such a character like in a fanfic or smth. I'm super happy this manga exists!

 

[tictokgaming111]

As an Aroace person I am super happy. I love this. I have a lot questions about love. I still can't understand exactly what it means but I am now clear that I don't want any romantic relationship as of now. I pondered a lot about it when my friends ask about love. So seeing Hirano ponder makes a lot of sense. I hope he will get that there are different forms of love and choose something that he is comfortable with.. I mean sasaki and miyano manga teases that so I am happy

I've had crushes before but I didn't really wanted much out of it. I had got confessed before but I couldn't return the feeling because I didn't see them in the same light as a romantic partner and I definitely knew that this will not go any further.. I wanted to turn them down nicely as possible but they were kinda insistent and said a few stuff that be interpreted in a certain way so I got a little irritated and they asked sorry... and that was that.I wish I could've been a bit nice about that. Since we both were in school Ig we were immature. I just wish them to find a good partner and be happy in future.

 

[Thrembs]

Homoro ace, Averse!

 

[Thrembs]

Wow, this feels like such positive AroAce rep! I'm ace and while I don't get repulsed, I'm definitely super choosy about who and how I touch, especially with more intimate things like hugs.

I'm really impressed by how the author's exploring Hirano's feelings: what he's coming to understand about himself, and what romance looks/feels like to him. It's so fresh and exciting to see in a genre that's typically known for guys kissing within the first chapter and/or dragging stories out with romantic trope nonsense.

Feels more non-aro ace to me, but we shall see

I know most people will read this series under the impression that it is a BL manga,

🤨 It is.
The author has said it.
Boys and love are happening.
Love doesn't mean sex.

I mean, it's part of what I need (within reason, of course. Mitigating circumstances exist) in a relationship, but not everyone.

so most will be expecting kisses and romantic scenes,

I don't.

but I genuinely can't see Hirano doing extremely romantic gestures unless it's to try it out or to make Kagiura happy.

...why else would someone do romantic gestures?
Like, say, buying very personal birthday presents, or going to sportball events because he knows mans likes it.
Needing to live together, and making it happen...

These things can be romantic gestures, or just bro-ing out. Context.

As an aroace person I heavily relate to him—

That's awesome.

having certain limitations on what type of physical intimacy is ok for me, wanting to care for someone deeply

Totally with you so far, though it's not exactly relatable, aside my ex being grey ace, so I'm over here like Kagi-kun

yet not having romantic feelings, etc.

Hmm?
He hasn't sorted out his feelings, yet.
They're together to some degree in the future(there's a flash forward in SasaMyaa, of which this is a spinoff), and Hirani has some degree of boundaries on physical contact, which are fully respected.

The perfect portrayal of their relationship, IMO,

The closest thing to "perfect portrayal" is... In the manga. "Death of the author" or not, the piece isn't even finished.
Load your head cannon with all the funpowder you want. I think head cannon is as valid as official canon.
But it needs clear. differentiation.

would be if they're in a queerplatonic relationship—something not quite romantic as lovers but a relationship

I mean, "lovers" is something to be defined by the couple.

If you're a couple, then it's up to you what you call it. Establishing the parameters is part of any relationship.

Adjectives are, quite often, approximations, with ambiguities hammered out with subtleties and minutiae.

equally as, or even more important and intimate

Now it sounds like you're disparaging romantic relationships. 😒
You are equally valid. Not more.
Different doesn't mean better or worse.


Gotta say, considering Kagi-kun's reactions in future (flash forward is like 6mo after Hirano's graduation), I think them staying together long term is extremely idealistic. What's he gonna do with that pent up energy?
I mean, it's totally a thing, I'm sure. Law of large numbers I would have very little trouble finding such partnerships online. But having near-opposite orientations? Wow. That's... A lot.
Kagi-kun has said he fantasises about... things not described, and potentially not that healthy...

It's not why we broke up*, but it was a source of tension and pain for my ex and I to react to stress in opposite ways.
The emotional neglect from her was tangled up with that, but was not not due to her orientation.**


So, yeah. See it how you like, but that's head canon. One which is totally awesome.


*it was toxic, I was a hot head, she gaslit and isolated me, pushed more and more psych meds on me any time I said I was unhappy with our life and needed XYZ to keep going...

**She would just shut down and stop talking to or spending time with me when I disliked her choices.
Like forcing us to live in X location and not telling me why for 4 years, or breaking promises, or not letting me shop for groceries...

Point is, while it was a source of tension, it wasn't a deal-breaker because when she wasn't stressed or angry mood, she wasn't averse.

 

[Lhbylhvc]

I really love this manga, and its characters. I really think that they can be happy together but I wonder if at the end they will be able to find some sort of equilibrium in this whole physical contact thing. I mean, this time Hirano literally said that he felt repulsed at the way Kagi touched him. Depending on how they handle it, it could end up separating them. At least they have good communication(?)

 

[Maacchii]

"I can tell, ok? So don't worry. I can tell just how much you care for me." made me want to sob and throw up and dissipate into nothingness, oh my god. That whole hug scene felt SO personal and intimate that I was like.. am I really allowed to peer into this exact moment these two are having lol.

It was soul-tearing and far too real to see Hirano having that kind of reaction to Kagi's touch, it really hurt to read but at the same time I am so happy for everyone who was hoping for Hirano to stay on the 'probably aspec' track, myself included. This is incredibly valuable representation that a lot of people clearly need and it's written in a way that feels very genuine. Personally this manga has helped me understand both the aroace and the severely-not-aroace experience and line of thinking better, being someone somewhere in the middle myself. (quite romantic but mostly indifferent towards physical affection, if not avoidant)

The role reversal part made my heart swell so much it was just about to explode and then Ichinose showing up felt like getting tossed into a freezing cold river lol. I'm just about as terrified as Hirano over what's gonna happen next, my cortisol levels really cannot handle all these developments man...... Pretty sure I went through all seven stages of grief and then some during this chapter, it was so good though. Maybe the best in the entire manga so far imo, it just did everything so right. And for what it's worth the happy sparkly moments had me feeling more warm inside than I have been in months :')

Thank you so much for the translation, super stoked for the following chapters!!!


p.s. Hirano and Kagi are both so real for what they say on pg. 30, dog person x dogboy love is sooooooo <33

 

[Mikael_yo]

holy author on a generational run here 2 whole chapters in less than a week is crazy

 

[Thrembs]

"I can tell, ok? So don't worry. I can tell just how much you care for me." made me want to sob and throw up and dissipate into nothingness, oh my god. That whole hug scene felt SO personal and intimate that I was like.. am I really allowed to peer into this exact moment these two are having lol.

It was soul-tearing and far too real to see Hirano having that kind of reaction to Kagi's touch, it really hurt to read but at the same time I am so happy for everyone who was hoping for Hirano to stay on the 'probably aspec' track, myself included. This is incredibly valuable representation that a lot of people clearly need and it's written in a way that feels very genuine. Personally this manga has helped me understand both the aroace and the severely-not-aroace experience and line of thinking better, being someone somewhere in the middle myself. (quite romantic but mostly indifferent towards physical affection, if not avoidant)

The role reversal part made my heart swell so much it was just about to explode and then Ichinose showing up felt like getting tossed into a freezing cold river lol. I'm just about as terrified as Hirano over what's gonna happen next, my cortisol levels really cannot handle all these developments man...... Pretty sure I went through all seven stages of grief and then some during this chapter, it was so good though. Maybe the best in the entire manga so far imo, it just did everything so right. And for what it's worth the happy sparkly moments had me feeling more warm inside than I have been in months :')

Thank you so much for the translation, super stoked for the following chapters!!!


p.s. Hirano and Kagi are both so real for what they say on pg. 30, dog person x dogboy love is sooooooo <33

This is the better version of the first hug.

The stroke on his back... yeah. Even if you're not ace (I still don't see aro, here. There's a spectrum, and I think this is somewhere between), but not into someone like that being felt up is 🤢


I'm so far from ace... I don't even need romantic attraction for physical attraction.

Yet someone who I don't want anything physical with touching me in an at all amorous way? I'm reaching for the spray in my purse.
It's bear spray. No one is gonna get away happy, but I guarantee they would be screaming after one warning.

 

[Hikineet]

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[runrin]

if you arent ace, and are disappointed by this development -- spend some time brushing/braiding your partner's hair, make a meal together, draw together, tuck them into bed, read them your favorite book, talk about your favorite characters together, draw them a bath after a difficult day and sit with them as they soak, etc. try to notice how connected and close you feel in those moments.

i'm not aroace, but i've had platonic relationships where i've felt more connected to someone than any romantic/sexual relationship ive had.

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p.s. if we get any form puppy play in this manga i will def die. kagi-kun would be such a good boy.

 

[Thrembs]

p.s. if we get any form puppy play in this manga i will def die. kagi-kun would be such a good boy.

... considering the type of puppy play I have been forced by society to witness, my first reaction was "OMFG that is so cursed".
THAT shit doesn't belong here.

Something like the Halloween chapter with the cat ears? That. Yes. Woof.

Almost redundant, though. He's an anthropomorphic labrabull to begin with. 😂

 

[tictokgaming111]

holy author on a generational run here 2 whole chapters in less than a week is crazy

More good news is that chapter 29 raw is out... yet to be translated but it was good. Author is taking a break next month so no new chapter next month but she didn't leave us starving.

 

[Cerbiatte]

Thank you so much for the chapter I didn't expect for it to come out so quick

 

[infellowish]

Chapter 28 translation already!!??
Thanks for translating!


aroace hirano real

 

[KSA.gal]

Thank you for the translation
I've tried reading it in Japanese and I understood to some degree, but I still don't know Japanese all that well so I'm really grateful for the translation🤍
Seeing these two's development is heartwarming💕