Hitozuma to JK - Vol. 4 Ch. 32

[kreahleiser]

Haha, thanks for pointing that out! We totally spaced on it—we were experimenting so much with this chapter (like testing four different fonts and tweaking the redraws for panels 10–12), so it just slipped through the cracks. Thanks again for catching it! We’ve gone ahead and fixed panel 4. We took another look at panel 3 and couldn't spot the issue, but we'll double-check it just to be sure. If you see anything else, please let us know—we'd love to fix it! 😀

Edit: I did the below for example's sake. 45 minute job going by timestamps.

 

[Xelda]

I've always wondered why she would even married her husband in the first place despite her sexual orientation. Like what the hell, if she's a straight girl from the start i would make sense for her to marry him, but she has feeling for her childhood friend who is a girl. After that she even fucked her daughter's friend because she resembled her childhood friend, when you think of it that way she's just a scumbag, she might as well just turn herself in

Keeping up appearances, and possibly not having had the time before to truly explore her sexuality. She's "supposed" to marry a man with a stable income, have a child, and be a dutiful housewife, so that's what she did. Thankfully it doesn't sound like she hates her husband or their relationship is abusive, but there's definitely no love there, at least not from her to him. It might even be that he spends so much time away simply because he also doesn't feel any love for her, he just married her also because he was "supposed to".

 

[Xelda]

YEEEEESSSSSSSSS! Let's fucking gooooooooo! Divorce hubby and marry your Hinata! You've had your whole life dictated for you, you deserve your happy ever after, girl!

 

[daveish]

so next chapter do we get the classic shove Mizuki in the closet/another room to hide from Hazuki or the more ero version, somehow hide her under the covers being drowned in hinatas smell?

Either way it's been a few chapters since the last full sex scene so no doubt there'll be one next chapter or one after

 

[wortback]

I guess there’s a typo on the panel 4 (theate-> theatre) and fringe was already pointed out above. A small question why was Mizuki’s name change to Mitsuki?

Accept for that glad to see the story moving into a more serious direction. Thanks for the translation.

 

[kreahleiser]

I guess there’s a typo on the panel 4 (theate-> theatre) and fringe was already pointed out above. A small question why was Mizuki’s name change to Mitsuki?

Accept for that glad to see the story moving into a more serious direction. Thanks for the translation.

Couple of reasons for the name thing, none make sense to someone who can actually read Japanese or Chinese (same logic and rules with kanji).
Her name in Japanese is 深月
This is comprised of
深 (mizu, made from the water radical 氵and 罙. The meaning changes depending on the radical before the 罙. Example 探 means 'search' effectively, with the radical 扌being 'hand')
月 (tsuki, meaning moon. It can also mean month, think of moon cycles being roughly a month I guess.)
Result is Mizuki; Mizu(tsu)ki, or if you read it incorrect you could get, say, Mikuki, or Mi(zu)tsuki.
The water radical 氵basically tells you to read it as Mizuki, so I'm unsure how they've landed on either outcome. Their response to me earlier was drafted by an AI going by the use of 'em' dashes which you can't actually type on a keyboard, so I'll let you make your own conclusions.

 

[yuuuaki]

Couple of reasons for the name thing, none make sense to someone who can actually read Japanese or Chinese (same logic and rules with kanji).
Her name in Japanese is 深月
This is comprised of
深 (mizu, made from the water radical 氵and 罙. The meaning changes depending on the radical before the 罙. Example 探 means 'search' effectively, with the radical 扌being 'hand')
月 (tsuki, meaning moon. It can also mean month, think of moon cycles being roughly a month I guess.)
Result is Mizuki; Mizu(tsu)ki, or if you read it incorrect you could get, say, Mikuki, or Mi(zu)tsuki.
The water radical 氵basically tells you to read it as Mizuki, so I'm unsure how they've landed on either outcome. Their response to me earlier was drafted by an AI going by the use of 'em' dashes which you can't actually type on a keyboard, so I'll let you make your own conclusions.

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[kreahleiser]

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深月 - Mizuki

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羽田深月 - Haneda Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

 

[graynile]

4some with mother daughter? 💀
author let his/her inner thought win.

also she's gonna get caught.( let's hope Hazuki doesn't catch them mid sex, lil girl will be traumatized for life💀)

 

[yuuuaki]

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深月 - Mizuki

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羽田深月 - Haneda Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

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深月 - Mizuki

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[kreahleiser]

Three things I want to respond by saying.
1) I'm 'just starting out' myself. I've only done like... 5 chapters. I work entirely by myself. My first chapter was a mess, I got called out, I learned from it. If I mess up I mess up; I fix what people point out and lesson learned.

2) Translating into a language you're not fully comfortable with is a bad idea. If your English isn't strong enough to produce natural, coherent sentences, then either get proper editing help or don't do it.

3) This is a big one. I remember the names of the characters in the story I'm translating. Why? Because I like the story. I don't need to translate Mizuki or whatever every time because I know they're called Mizuki. Those sort of translation issues should happen exactly once, in one form. If they're happening more, then it's not being translated by someone who knows what they're reading, and/or it's not being proofread by someone who knows the story.

I'm going to add a fourth here, but this is more of a personal opinion. If AI touches your project at some point in the process and nobody can tell, then nobody will point it out. In retrospect, whether or not AI touches your project at all, if it looks absolutely jank, people will likely say its AI.

 

[yuuuaki]

Three things I want to respond by saying.
1) I'm 'just starting out' myself. I've only done like... 5 chapters. I work entirely by myself. My first chapter was a mess, I got called out, I learned from it. If I mess up I mess up; I fix what people point out and lesson learned.

2) Translating into a language you're not fully comfortable with is a bad idea. If your English isn't strong enough to produce natural, coherent sentences, then either get proper editing help or don't do it.

3) This is a big one. I remember the names of the characters in the story I'm translating. Why? Because I like the story. I don't need to translate Mizuki or whatever every time because I know they're called Mizuki. Those sort of translation issues should happen exactly once, in one form. If they're happening more, then it's not being translated by someone who knows what they're reading, and/or it's not being proofread by someone who knows the story.

I'm going to add a fourth here, but this is more of a personal opinion. If AI touches your project at some point in the process and nobody can tell, then nobody will point it out. In retrospect, whether or not AI touches your project at all, if it looks absolutely jank, people will likely say its AI.

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[yuki0907u]

Three things I want to respond by saying.
1) I'm 'just starting out' myself. I've only done like... 5 chapters. I work entirely by myself. My first chapter was a mess, I got called out, I learned from it. If I mess up I mess up; I fix what people point out and lesson learned.

2) Translating into a language you're not fully comfortable with is a bad idea. If your English isn't strong enough to produce natural, coherent sentences, then either get proper editing help or don't do it.

3) This is a big one. I remember the names of the characters in the story I'm translating. Why? Because I like the story. I don't need to translate Mizuki or whatever every time because I know they're called Mizuki. Those sort of translation issues should happen exactly once, in one form. If they're happening more, then it's not being translated by someone who knows what they're reading, and/or it's not being proofread by someone who knows the story.

I'm going to add a fourth here, but this is more of a personal opinion. If AI touches your project at some point in the process and nobody can tell, then nobody will point it out. In retrospect, whether or not AI touches your project at all, if it looks absolutely jank, people will likely say its AI.

I’ve spent three hours on this chapter, and I want to be clear: no AI was used in this process. Two of us are working on this together, and we are proud of the effort we put in for the fans who love this serie.
To those offering constructive feedback, I appreciate it; however, I have no time for rude or dismissive comments. Suggesting that someone shouldn’t translate because they aren't fluent in the original language is a narrow-minded perspective. By that logic, almost every other translator in the community would have to stop, too. Your point is illogical—especially considering that, unlike you, we actually have a grasp of the language. If it were up to me, I’d just read this series for myself and wouldn't need to translate it at all, unlike you.
It is incredibly pathetic that you feel entitled to criticize our work when it is clear that your own 'translations' were just generated by AI. If you are such an expert, why don't you translate it yourself? If you are unhappy with our work, you are more than welcome to stop reading and produce your own version. We are committed to learning and improving with every chapter, and we won't be stopping just because of your negativity.
fucking lame asshole doesn’t even know what he is talking just asking chat gpt for summary of his point waa waa cry little bi###.
@kreahleiser

 

[Beastkun]

next ch will be fun looking forward to it

 

[mijarena]

Her husband must be taking a sabbatical, how the hell else has he been gone for this long?

But in other news, cat's out the bag now, and I suspect one more is coming out to play... can we finally see the highway?

In Japanese work culture it is not uncommon, that employees are send somewhere else for work. And this is exactly as it is in this story.
Her husband is not on a sabbatical, but he is a bank clerk and is send to an oversees branch for work. It is explained some chapters before.

 

[kreahleiser]

I fixed and I’m back.spend all my 6 f##### hours on my ipad .and i wanna make sure of on thing no ai was involved and used about other things everything is acceptable feedback and pointing things out and no rude or mean people are allowed and other then that being mean and saying stupid stuff doesn’t make genuinely good person and you are pretty dumb if you think that if you can’t speak or read other languages then that means you can’t translate them or you shouldn’t it’s pretty pathetic since in the end every dumb or uneducated person likely will come to conclusions of ai i do not need your feedback if you are this kind of person and i will not surely stop just because of you since I know there are many people who truly love this series and want me to continue and are genuinely good people who love this as much as we do and we are completely committed that if any other person then you says we should stop we will and we do not get paid or it’s not our job we have life out side of this as you know and we do this because we love to do it. we do when we have free time and we do make mistakes but we make sure not to do that in the next time and we actually fix that problems and address them as soon as we can so your comment doesn’t make sense to me neither to my yuu so if you don’t want then you can translate this on your own and read it as i can see that you are group leader already so don’t make it our fault if you are sloppy
@kreahleiser

hmph😅 haha sorry first I wanna make sure I did not sounded like it was something else and about league so you mean idk like it doesn’t make sense what you said like you or most of people on mangadex doesn’t know Japanese or can’t read or who translate that and you mean they should stop because they don’t know or they are not good enough or strong as you said not me.whatever since that did not make or made any sense to me honestly and about things you are what you are I guess and we are what we are every person is different some Learn from there mistakes and some Learn fast and others are slow to learn or whatsoever.i maybe not good at English when it comes straight or messy but I can understand it slowly or fast depending on the context of course and I do not get most of what you said as. I said first was about league second is you saying that you uploaded 5 chapters so far maybe you are good at this unlike us and I think that is amazing that you are fast at learning and getting through everything by yourself.but we are not like you so everyone is different and honestly from my point of view I like this story whatsoever I can read it at any time without a problem .but you can’t that why we wanted to translate this because we know there are other peoples that love this story as much as we do so that the big reason for translating this and making better every time we notice or you point out what we did wrong and idk if you guys hate it that much that you can’t bear with you can just say it and we will stop doing this and maybe someone better will take over or maybe you who ever does it doesn’t matter to us we just wanted to do what we loved to do and we know thought everyone will be not happy. but after we saw soo many people thanking us for picking up this series we got naive and started thinking we complete this series some of this will get happy after soo long there was no news about someone doing it so we thought what we think was right maybe it was mistake and I and we apologise for it and to make one more time sure we didn’t used any kind of ai not to reply not to translate this for us or anything I did made that clear as I cloud possible but it seems some of you are solid like rocks and always come with a conclusion of ai yes maybe in the first our quality was trash and we miserable but you can say that for our chapter 31 and 32 since we worked on them more then ever and even tried many new things but I don’t wanna sound like crazy or defensive or anything at all I think pointing things out is good and not just saying yeah I can work out with this somehow hmph well not like I’m the one to say so I will stop thanks for pointing out and for the feedback I truly love that people pointing things out that they don’t like then faking and saying thanks for the translation or whatever being honest is good but you can be considered at least I saw many bad and good people and I do not think you are one of them instead I think you brave and good for pointing out and making sure to get us through you message and I think that is let me know if you think we should stop and want to take over or anything at all I’m always open to people who want to make things clear and don’t just want to make others people seem like they are doing bad or something like that 😅😄

Let's avoid getting into the obvious coordinated edit of messages by your team, going by the timestamps.. and the fact your edits are visible to others.
On the topic of translating: to be able to actually translate from a language you must know said language, and what it's words mean. If you don't you... can't translate it because you don't know the words. Do you follow?
Similarly, if you don't know sufficient English to know that block of text above is not people who "actually have a grasp of the language", you probably are not in a spot to say as much to a native English speaker.

Character's name is Mizuki (it has the water radical before the kanji, yes?). Also Theate is spelled as "theatre" or "theater" depending on region.
Again, name is incorrect.

Mistranslated, the line says "It was her succubus". it is being spoken by the "angel" persona in response to the succubus, why would they refer to themselves as a succubus?
"Get a divorce...?" - you can't use a current tense verb for a future action in this context.

Mizuki.

Mizuki

Mizuki

"fridg" is spelled as "fridge" in every form of English.
Mizuki.

Some of these are not minor mistakes to make; the name of all things should at least be consistent. The fact it flip-flops between Mitsuki and Mikuki (both of which are wrong) is bizarre and inconsistent, especially considering you got it correct in previous chapters.


Let me break this down for you, for future reference.
深 = 'mizu', 氵is the water radical.
月 = 'tsuki', moon.
深月 = Mizu - ki. The "tsu" is dropped.
Believe it or not, the previous translators who worked on this series for several years didn't mistranslate this name - you did. And your teammate lying that this was how the name was actually written is not helping that case.

Furthermore, your blatant attempt to pass the buck on this when there's a clear trend of AI use in your post history visible on your profile, all your previous translations show consistent issues with mistranslating, and your editing of your post to go from the rambling sprawl of vitriolic drivel you posted before into this almost business-like text which completely contrasts with your clearly natural typing style.. it is an interesting choice. And then... y'know, putting this complete contrast at the bottom. "fucking lame asshole doesn’t even know what he is talking just asking chat gpt for summary of his point waa waa cry little bi###."

Since I've gotten the go-ahead, I probably will go ahead and translate some chapters - you would be surprised how many English speakers prefer actual consistent grammar and translations in their... y'know.. translations.
Or, here's a better idea - let me proofread this utter trite, free of charge, before you post it. I actually like this series, so seeing it butchered by whatever tool you're using then not even checked afterward is quite difficult to watch.

An addendum, for anyone else reading this and wondering what's going on. Here's the translator's previous work (11 days ago).
https://mangadex.org/chapter/a1f8ea5e-2dbe-4dd6-ba2e-2727dd93f20c
And another (10 days ago).
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d301fee4-fcbe-4f4e-b44e-41e8ca710871
The previous messages in here have, as you can see, been edited within the space of an hour of each other.
Make your own judgement of this pissing match.

 

[yuki0907u]

Let's avoid getting into the obvious coordinated edit of messages by your team, going by the timestamps.. and the fact your edits are visible to others.
On the topic of translating: to be able to actually translate from a language you must know said language, and what it's words mean. If you don't you... can't translate it because you don't know the words. Do you follow?
Similarly, if you don't know sufficient English to know that block of text above is not people who "actually have a grasp of the language", you probably are not in a spot to say as much to a native English speaker.

View attachment 60208 Character's name is Mizuki (it has the water radical before the kanji, yes?). Also Theate is spelled as "theatre" or "theater" depending on region.
View attachment 60211 Again, name is incorrect.

View attachment 60214 Mistranslated, the line says "It was her succubus". it is being spoken by the "angel" persona in response to the succubus, why would they refer to themselves as a succubus?
View attachment 60217 "Get a divorce...?" - you can't use a current tense verb for a future action in this context.

View attachment 60220 Mizuki.

View attachment 60223 Mizuki

View attachment 60226 Mizuki

View attachment 60229 "fridg" is spelled as "fridge" in every form of English.
View attachment 60232 Mizuki.

Some of these are not minor mistakes to make; the name of all things should at least be consistent. The fact it flip-flops between Mitsuki and Mikuki (both of which are wrong) is bizarre and inconsistent, especially considering you got it correct in previous chapters.


Let me break this down for you, for future reference.
深 = 'mizu', 氵is the water radical.
月 = 'tsuki', moon.
深月 = Mizu - ki. The "tsu" is dropped.
Believe it or not, the previous translators who worked on this series for several years didn't mistranslate this name - you did. And your teammate lying that this was how the name was actually written is not helping that case.
View attachment 60238
Furthermore, your blatant attempt to pass the buck on this when there's a clear trend of AI use in your post history visible on your profile, all your previous translations show consistent issues with mistranslating, and your editing of your post to go from the rambling sprawl of vitriolic drivel you posted before into this almost business-like text which completely contrasts with your clearly natural typing style.. it is an interesting choice. And then... y'know, putting this complete contrast at the bottom. "fucking lame asshole doesn’t even know what he is talking just asking chat gpt for summary of his point waa waa cry little bi###."

Since I've gotten the go-ahead, I probably will go ahead and translate some chapters - you would be surprised how many English speakers prefer actual consistent grammar and translations in their... y'know.. translations.
Or, here's a better idea - let me proofread this utter trite, free of charge, before you post it. I actually like this series, so seeing it butchered by whatever tool you're using then not even checked afterward is quite difficult to watch.

An addendum, for anyone else reading this and wondering what's going on. Here's the translator's previous work (11 days ago).
https://mangadex.org/chapter/a1f8ea5e-2dbe-4dd6-ba2e-2727dd93f20c
And another (10 days ago).
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d301fee4-fcbe-4f4e-b44e-41e8ca710871
The previous messages in here have, as you can see, been edited within the space of an hour of each other.
Make your own judgement of this pissing match.

Get a life, dude. And if you are really trying to pick a fight, why don’t you show me your work? and why didn’t you show our Chapter 5: https://mangadex.org/chapter/b88b6c05-fed8-4138-8cce-4e3883c79e4c, since I have gotten way better, and by the way, that was my first work; I even explained that. I do not need to give you an explanation or do anything as you please. We know who is here, who is using AI, and everything. If you think you are better than us, why don’t you show that to us? We have seen your work, too; it’s pretty lame, just like you, and we are not so weak as you to just point it out when it’s already so visible. You think in your reply, when you were trying to point out what we did wrong, that we didn’t see what you did in those specific panels? Wow, what a fucking idiot we have here. I’m pretty sure you come from somewhere using both in our country, and our fucking government is so corrupt we can’t do anything. For example, I will give you an example since you are lame and also idiot : if a shepherd is born in France, it doesn’t change the fact that he is German. Oops, I went on a different topic. So, are you stupid or were you fucked up when you were a kid? Since anything that you say doesn’t make sense and is based on false accusations. Pretty lame of you. Waa waa i was born here😭 please don’t treat me like a bi### I’m human being to that being that doesn’t have history,culture,respect .nothing but bl### live matter voice that i use to say this waa waa I just know how to ki## someone or ra## kids waa waaa please don’t treat me like different person I deserve better waa waaa. I can stay her and continue but as you know me and my partner have LIFE THAT WE LOVE TO LIVE. So if you want to go ahead and do this since your translation is so lame just chat gpt and his ideas that he thinks would be great so yeah go ahead and show us what you got since i think I have seen enough but people like you and your,,, god damn it I always just mistakenly go since your kind doesn’t get ashamed of nothing but offended by everything . i will stop myself before I destroy your ego along side of your dignity that .maybe. You Have?!
And this reply of yours didn’t seemed to be wrote by you as well

 

[kreahleiser]

Get a life, dude. And if you are really trying to pick a fight, why don’t you show me your work? and why didn’t you show our Chapter 5: https://mangadex.org/chapter/b88b6c05-fed8-4138-8cce-4e3883c79e4c, since I have gotten way better, and by the way, that was my first work; I even explained that. I do not need to give you an explanation or do anything as you please. We know who is here, who is using AI, and everything. If you think you are better than us, why don’t you show that to us? We have seen your work, too; it’s pretty lame, just like you, and we are not so weak as you to just point it out when it’s already so visible. You think in your reply, when you were trying to point out what we did wrong, that we didn’t see what you did in those specific panels? Wow, what a fucking idiot we have here. I’m pretty sure you come from somewhere using both in our country, and our fucking government is so corrupt we can’t do anything. For example, I will give you an example since you are lame and also idiot : if a shepherd is born in France, it doesn’t change the fact that he is German. Oops, I went on a different topic. So, are you stupid or were you fucked up when you were a kid? Since anything that you say doesn’t make sense and is based on false accusations. Pretty lame of you. Waa waa i was born here😭 please don’t treat me like a bi### I’m human being to that being that doesn’t have history,culture,respect .nothing but bl### live matter voice that i use to say this waa waa I just know how to ki## someone or ra## kids waa waaa please don’t treat me like different person I deserve better waa waaa. I can stay her and continue but as you know me and my partner have LIFE THAT WE LOVE TO LIVE. So if you want to go ahead and do this since your translation is so lame just chat gpt and his ideas that he thinks would be great so yeah go ahead and show us what you got since i think I have seen enough but people like you and your,,, god damn it I always just mistakenly go since your kind doesn’t get ashamed of nothing but offended by everything . i will stop myself before I destroy your ego along side of your dignity that .maybe. You Have?!
And this reply of yours didn’t seemed to be wrote by you as well

lol



Incorrect word - "has". It's not a plural.

Serif font.. even though I sent a font guide. Also lazy typesetting; you can't just layer text on top of stuff like this and leave the original text behind it, it just looks messy. Redraw it yourself minus the text, get a redrawer, or just leave it - translate in the margin with an asterisk.

 

[Ana-al-Haqq]

Waa waa i was born here😭 please don’t treat me like a bi### I’m human being to that being that doesn’t have history,culture,respect .nothing but bl### live matter voice that i use to say this waa waa I just know how to ki## someone or ra## kids waa waaa please don’t treat me like different person I deserve better waa waaa. I can stay her and continue but as you know me and my partner have LIFE THAT WE LOVE TO LIVE.

 

[yuki0907u]

lol

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Incorrect word - "has". It's not a plural.View attachment 60271

Serif font.. even though I sent a font guide. Also lazy typesetting; you can't just layer text on top of stuff like this and leave the original text behind it, it just looks messy. Redraw it yourself minus the text, get a redrawer, or just leave it - translate in the margin with an asterisk.

lol to you . well i will take that lol because some of them maybe not good but..