Honzuki no Gekokujou ~Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen~ Dai 2-bu 「Hon no Tamenara Miko ni Naru!」 - Vol. 3 Ch. 12 - A Source of An…
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as everyone says here, the douche brother doesn't have any right to get upset to his little brother even through the nepotism glasses. it that his family shop? does the brother get the incentive from the orders? if not then get off! especially since Lutz is being literally in front of his boss. with that shit grin smug guy shows we can assume he's trying to up his price and it was Lutz's job to return it to market price (or lower preferably)
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See that like your litle bro/sis wanted to became a musician.
Yes there are musician who became famous and make a living but most of them don't and you will be concerned about your bro/sis who absolutely want that.
But you basically don't know music at all and can't say your bro/sis have talent, being realistic in they dream or can make a living or not.
That basically the same thing, Lutz's family are poor illiterate artisant. They didn't even know how much they work worth. they didn't have bad intend but they didn't know enough to not be worried.
Not forget that merchan is not really apreciate from artisant perspective.
See that like your litle bro/sis wanted to became a musician.
Yes there are musician who became famous and make a living but most of them don't and you will be concerned about your bro/sis who absolutely want that.
But you basically don't know music at all and can't say your bro/sis have talent, being realistic in they dream or can make a living or not.
That basically the same thing, Lutz's family are poor illiterate artisant. They didn't even know how much they work worth. they didn't have bad intend but they didn't know enough to not be worried.
Not forget that merchan is not really apreciate from artisant perspective.
@LysandersTreason Lutz's family had absolutely no idea how wealthy he is, most of his money is hidden in his guild card. Also, the family has a HUGE bias against merchants, who always come to their workshops and haggle the prices down. Most merchants are not like Myne, who gives a decent price. Many merchants are trying to pay as little as possible, they don't care if the workshop barely makes money.
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Your comment made me think Lutz started working for a drug dealer...
More seriously, their society is more rigid than modern western society. A craftsman's son becoming a merchant is something that is Not Done. That's one thing.
A more practical aspect is that if Lutz' brothers need help (it could be advice, or a quiet word in the ear of their boss, or the lending of some tools), their family can help. That's true for basically all apprentices (including merchants' apprentices), it's how their society works. But from their POV, if Lutz needs help, he's screwed.
Your comment made me think Lutz started working for a drug dealer...
More seriously, their society is more rigid than modern western society. A craftsman's son becoming a merchant is something that is Not Done. That's one thing.
A more practical aspect is that if Lutz' brothers need help (it could be advice, or a quiet word in the ear of their boss, or the lending of some tools), their family can help. That's true for basically all apprentices (including merchants' apprentices), it's how their society works. But from their POV, if Lutz needs help, he's screwed.
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Yeah! How dare you know how to work with money!
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@EVReborns people in that era live in a world of uber ignorance, so the whole idea of someone who doesn't work with their hands doing "honest work" seems shady to them.
Even more, when it's people that might in ocasion get rich by "taking advantage of the workshops".
Plus, it's a world where the idea of class mobility doesn't exist, so even more so they question the idea.
Even more, when it's people that might in ocasion get rich by "taking advantage of the workshops".
Plus, it's a world where the idea of class mobility doesn't exist, so even more so they question the idea.
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@EVReborns Lutz' family are woodworkers and his dad is the Master of that shop. Not only did Lutz bail on family tradition to become a merchant, he just screwed his family out of extra money the adult employee was trying to make from Myne.
Think of it like a mechanic charging you $100 for an oil change, then the owner's kid comes in and calls him on his bullshit scam.
Think of it like a mechanic charging you $100 for an oil change, then the owner's kid comes in and calls him on his bullshit scam.
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Deid (Lutz' father) isn't the Master of that shop. I don't think they even do precisely the same job - that's a carpentry workshop, Deid's in construction.
Sieg's problem was reflexive more than anything. He couldn't distinguish between Lutz, Benno's apprentice and Lutz, his little brother whom he can bully whenever he wants. So he couldn't appreciate who is "us" and who is "them". To him, the employees of his workshop is an "us", Lutz is an "us", Benno is a "them". But in fact, at work, Lutz is a "them", too.
Deid (Lutz' father) isn't the Master of that shop. I don't think they even do precisely the same job - that's a carpentry workshop, Deid's in construction.
Sieg's problem was reflexive more than anything. He couldn't distinguish between Lutz, Benno's apprentice and Lutz, his little brother whom he can bully whenever he wants. So he couldn't appreciate who is "us" and who is "them". To him, the employees of his workshop is an "us", Lutz is an "us", Benno is a "them". But in fact, at work, Lutz is a "them", too.
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