Houkago, Family Restaurant de, Class no Ano Ko to - Ch. 12

[MangaDex]

 

[razorshaleh]

BIG L FUCKING MOTHER, FUCK YOU BITCH MOTHER i need her scene got died soon

thanks for translating

 

[sumipe]

Would have been CPS involved and big jail time if it was a father

 

[Darkshade13]

Fuck her mom. "She physically and emotionally abused you but don't blame her because she kinda feels bad about it. Her abusing you more is because she feels guilty." is not a healthy or sensible.

 

[FleshPhoenix]

so, the mother felt guilty about striking her toddler so hard that an ambulance was called, that she... treated her like shit for her entire life.
yeah, she deserves to be hated by both her kids. someone needs to tie her to a chair and repeatedly slap her while recounting every instance of her wretched behaviour.

 

[Askorti]

None of this makes any fucking sense...

 

[Fmeza08]

This mom fucking blows

 

[Sunji27]

That some circumstances to work-out. But you can't let your trauma get you co'z you have daughters





Thanky ou for the TL

 

[blablablub]

The peak of terrible moms in manga is quite high, but she's certainly up there.

 

[Just_a_rock]

I don't understand the message author, is it "forgive child beaters"? Because if it its, Fuck You!

 

[RakshaJaeger]

What a fucking bad mother. It doesn’t even make sense. « She hit her when she was a kid and felt responsible so she treated her like shit while putting her big sis on a pedestal since then »… wtf ?
And now the daughters are the ones who have to be understanding and all…. Nah what the hell is this
Thanks for the translation

 

[samvision]

I dont think the author is excusing the mom at all, rather the message is despite whats happened in the past you need to try to move on or else things will just get worse. I doubt the intention is to make the mother come across as a victim.

 

[lenovoaxioo]

Which one is the child here

 

[Dirgecry]

None of this makes any fucking sense...

Abuse rarely does

 

[Darkshade13]

I dont think the author is excusing the mom at all, rather the message is despite whats happened in the past you need to try to move on or else things will just get worse. I doubt the intention is to make the mother come across as a victim.

The problem is that it does. Because for the mom to be able to come back she has to acknowledge that she did something wrong. And unfortunately trying to justify or excuse her behavior comes across as mitigating her personal responsibility for what happened and putting the burden on Kohaku to bear all the weight of solving this through simply choosing to forgive and forget.

It also, sadly, kind of feels like an extension of that whole extremely Japanese concept of Filial Piety or whatever, where kids are expected to have infinite understanding and acceptance of however their parents treat them because "they must've wanted to do good for me and I need to be grateful or I'm a horrible person" crossed with the excessive push for non-confrontation through brushing things off or letting them go. It comes across like suggesting that no matter what her mother did, if Kohaku doesn't just smile and say "it's OK if we can be a family again" then she did the wrong thing. And it is a massive disservice that she is made to feel guilty as if that's a worse thing than her mom actually admitting her guilt for, and this cannot be stressed enough, striking her toddler daughter hard enough to require an ambulance and then using that as an excuse to continue to psychologically/emotionally abuse her for like 14 more years or however old the characters are supposed to be.

Moving on/getting past things requires addressing and working through them to a satisfactory degree. Forgiveness first needs contrition. If the mom had broken down and taken total ownership of being awful and then decided to stay away from Kohaku for that reason ("I hurt you and if I stay I'll just keep hurting you") that might've helped. But the way she leaves it's more like "you being here forces me to remember all the awful stuff I did, so I'll just get away from you so that I can choose not to deal with it." and that is not laudable at all.

This series was fine but a little iffy for the first 7 or 8 chapters. Then when it seemingly became clear that it was just going to be a LN/WN advert it went downhill by focusing entirely on the wrong thing in the worst possible way. They would've been better off ending on the two of them still hanging out at the restaurants and vowing to work through their family issues together without confronting them yet. Better to let teh audience imagine the author could write their way out of this hole than explicitly show us that they can't.

 

[Erbakhan]

This fucking bitch. Like, i feel no sympathy for her, even the backstory didn't excuse her behavior

 

[Nivek]

Tell me she gets her comeuppance in the novels please

 

[SatchelBagman]

and this cannot be stressed enough, striking her toddler daughter hard enough to require an ambulance

I'm not about to play defense for child abuse here, but it is worth keeping the scope of things accurate: She hit her hard enough to draw blood, panicked and called an ambulance, and it turned out the wound was shallow and healed immediately.

Obviously the message is not that It's Okay To Hit Kids, but the thing being conveyed between the sister's account and the confrontation is that this was a traumatic experience that has stuck with the mother enough to affect her perception of being around the daughter who doesn't even remember this due to infantile amnesia.

She clearly needs therapy or at least somebody to talk to about this trauma and it's not on her daughters to do that for her, but "I traumatized myself when the stress of being a single mother of two led me to draw blood striking my youngest daughter and then made an ultimately unnecessary ambulance call" is a very different thing from "I traumatized myself by hitting my daughter hard enough to require an ambulance."

 

[elmco]

i just don’t really know why either of the sisters are giving the mom a chance? the older sister was going to kill herself for her younger sister but despite that is just totally chill with the mom who neglects and mistreats her younger sister. and with kazemiya, you were fully running away from home to not be around your mom but one look at her in bad shape you've decided actually it's ok to be abused. i do respect facing her in the end but then the mom ran away like a child, and you're still open to forgiving her? why??? i’m not even acknowledging the hitting thing because i could understand the guilt being traumatic for her but belittling and neglecting your daughter her whole life, blaming her when she finally confronts you and then just running away is fucking stupid. she has zero excuses

 

[KLGChaos]

Ok... so for a second I was trying to understand the mom. She was under a lot of pressure, snapped and hit her daughter. Tried to distance herself because she felt guilty. OK, that I would understand.

But only feeling guilty because it was "her sin"? Wishing her daughter had never been born so she wouldn't be reminded of it? That's some self absorbed, malignant narcissist shit if I've ever seen it. Not once was she thinking of her daughter is all this.

Really not sure why the author was trying to portray this as forgiveable.