Hunter x Hunter - Ch. 416 - Proclamation

[MangaDex]

 

[Redsaint]

honestly I’m lost, gonna have to read the start of this arc to remember wtf is going on

I miss Gon and the simple days where he just simply punched people.

 

[kohakusan]

So Tserridnich is watching way more than 10 seconds in the future now, he'll be an extremely hard to kill villain

 

[Onaner]

Benjamin is an anti maid bigot im surprised and dissapointed.

 

[skywardgem]

Tserreidnich obviously has a plan and I assume we saw the future he’s canceling out with his ability but, it was very satisfying seeing him near-immediately get shot lol

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

So Tserridnich is watching way more than 10 seconds in the future now, he'll be an extremely hard to kill villain

I don't think he is, he's just making an educated guess. Benjamin declaring martial law can only mean one thing.

 

[angelusalvus]

I'm dumb. I don't understand how is Benjamim supposed to win if he's going to die.

 

[malu]

I'm dumb. I don't understand how is Benjamim supposed to win if he's going to die.

i hope i'm not mistaked, but his goal is to kill every single prince within 12 hours, be declared winner of the succession war, then he dies, and thanks to the magic of post mortem Nen or his abilities or probably both, he become a God of Kakin or something like this, he's not afraid of dying because it's part of the plan.

don't forget than someone else died and was revided thanks to the Nen ( OH MY RUBBER NEN!)

 

[Kireato]

In this chapter, Camilla's plot to curse Benjamin flops hard, since the curse isn't even going to be faster than the disease.

I assume she's going to be placed in isolation, because if she manages to escape couldn't she just get killed by someone else and then revive from there? I guess that the main question then is, if she revives sooner than the disease can kill her, will she still be affected by the disease? It'd be funny if she just figured she'd have someone kill her before the disease finishes her off every 12 hours, to reset the countdown of the disease killing her, until she actually finds a cure.

If Benjamin doesn't place her in isolation (and he just walked away without giving any orders regarding her), then I wonder what she'll still do.

I'm guessing that right now she's just confused about what happened since I don't think she knows about the disease.

Benjamin is an anti maid bigot im surprised and dissapointed.

Well, he sprayed the incurable disease from his boot near Camilla so they would have been caught up in it too. He spared them that agony.

So Tserridnich is watching way more than 10 seconds in the future now, he'll be an extremely hard to kill villain

I don't think he is, he's just making an educated guess. Benjamin declaring martial law can only mean one thing.

I don't think so either. He doesn't know why the initial vision lasts 10 seconds and nothing he's done yet has changed that duration so I don't see why he'd suddenly see an improvement there. He's still just training to enter his zetsu as quickly as possible in order to receive the vision of the future.

Well, just being able to use an ability while in zetsu is extremely rare, but it's not like he just always sees the future. He needs to enter zetsu and close his eyes to receive the vision and he needs to keep his eyes closed to keep seeing the parallel timelines then it's only when he opens his eyes that he can actually start modifying things. It's just weird behaviour and not something he can really maintain all the time. He'd have to know when danger is lurking to actually use the ability.

However, he might be able to achieve something terrifying eventually. As stated, he's obsessed with decreasing the time needed to enter zetsu. What if he manages to enter zetsu in the time it takes him to blink? He'd just naturally blink, receive the vision, and get out of zetsu if nothing interesting happened. We know how Netero's attacks were seemingly instantaneous, so I think that this is definitely achievable, although, thankfully for the world, it'll likely take him at least months of training to achieve this, even if he's a genius.

But yeah, he'd be hard to kill, but not unkillable. He still needs to have the leeway to change the outcome during the 10 seconds he has available to him, so if you just nuke him... Also, he still needs to sleep, and I don't think he can just maintain zetsu while sleeping?

I'm dumb. I don't understand how is Benjamim supposed to win if he's going to die.

The details haven't been revealed. Apparently, his guardian spirit beast has the ability to turn him into the guardian deity of kakin once he dies so that he can rule over kakin for all eternity, but he still needs to win the succession war before he dies.

How does he win if Camilla outlasts him though, since she's been infected later than him?

Tserreidnich obviously has a plan and I assume we saw the future he’s canceling out with his ability but, it was very satisfying seeing him near-immediately get shot lol

If only Benjamin just broke another vial of incurable disease near him... It's really all you need to do, without telling him about it for 10 seconds (so no gloating) to ensure his death. But he hates him so much he just shot him, and we've seen Tserriednich deal with bullets before, so we know he's going to believe, at least for a while thanks to the illusion, that he successfully killed him. I guess it makes sense to be drawn into shooting someone who is in zetsu and not protected by the guardian spirit beast, but why would he not question that someone who has learned nen remains in zetsu while facing firearms? I guess he expects that it won't actually do anything because Tserriednich will get out of zetsu and block the bullet.

I wonder what Tserriednich's plan actually is. Apparently, he wants to pretend to be dead, but why did he need the gun? I have no idea how he expects his body to be secured by his guard rather than the royal army...

 

[Makenai]

If only Benjamin just broke another vial of incurable disease near him... It's really all you need to do, without telling him about it for 10 seconds (so no gloating) to ensure his death. But he hates him so much he just shot him, and we've seen Tserriednich deal with bullets before, so we know he's going to believe, at least for a while thanks to the illusion, that he successfully killed him. I guess it makes sense to be drawn into shooting someone who is in zetsu and not protected by the guardian spirit beast, but why would he not question that someone who has learned nen remains in zetsu while facing firearms? I guess he expects that it won't actually do anything because Tserriednich will get out of zetsu and block the bullet.

I think Benjamin is under a lot of stress even he doesn't show it. He has to hurry up a lot for his plan to work and he needed to come up with it fast so I'm sure he hasn't thought out every detail.
Also he noticed Tserri is under Zetsu and still shot him so maybe he was just not scared because he dies anyway. Its risky but if you think about it, what would you do? Maybe Tserri needs time and shooting was the right call. Maybe he triggers something. Benjamin can't know for sure and he doesn't have much time so he shot him anyway.

 

[Kireato]

I think Benjamin is under a lot of stress even he doesn't show it. He has to hurry up a lot for his plan to work and he needed to come up with it fast so I'm sure he hasn't thought out every detail.
Also he noticed Tserri is under Zetsu and still shot him so maybe he was just not scared because he dies anyway. Its risky but if you think about it, what would you do? Maybe Tserri needs time and shooting was the right call. Maybe he triggers something. Benjamin can't know for sure and he doesn't have much time so he shot him anyway.

The martial law plan isn't a spur of the moment action though, so he must have already planned most of his actions in this scenario. Of course, the other princes were also aware that he had this card, and so with Camilla we saw her countermeasure. Benjamin still has several hours so he still has plenty of time to go through the other princes.

Of course, there's a lot of uncertainty in this situation, so as you say there's no right answer and taking action immediately might be the right move. It's also possible that Benjamin understands the situation is odd and is just scoping things out by shooting Tserriednich.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Benjamin died during this confrontation with Tserriednich and the martial law was called off, with the focus shifting to Tserriednich as the most likely prince to win this war of succession. But it could go very differently, as there are many different moving pieces here.

 

[AAA1]

The martial law plan isn't a spur of the moment action though, so he must have already planned most of his actions in this scenario. Of course, the other princes were also aware that he had this card, and so with Camilla we saw her countermeasure. Benjamin still has several hours so he still has plenty of time to go through the other princes.

Of course, there's a lot of uncertainty in this situation, so as you say there's no right answer and taking action immediately might be the right move. It's also possible that Benjamin understands the situation is odd and is just scoping things out by shooting Tserriednich.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Benjamin died during this confrontation with Tserriednich and the martial law was called off, with the focus shifting to Tserriednich as the most likely prince to win this war of succession. But it could go very differently, as there are many different moving pieces here.

he wouldn't die in this confrontation. remember this is a recontextual chapter because there is past chapter that later show him confronted mizaistom in lower level but he was actually already being controlled by halkenburg

 

[AAA1]

Well, just being able to use an ability while in zetsu is extremely rare, but it's not like he just always sees the future. He needs to enter zetsu and close his eyes to receive the vision and he needs to keep his eyes closed to keep seeing the parallel timelines then it's only when he opens his eyes that he can actually start modifying things. It's just weird behaviour and not something he can really maintain all the time. He'd have to know when danger is lurking to actually use the ability.

However, he might be able to achieve something terrifying eventually. As stated, he's obsessed with decreasing the time needed to enter zetsu. What if he manages to enter zetsu in the time it takes him to blink? He'd just naturally blink, receive the vision, and get out of zetsu if nothing interesting happened. We know how Netero's attacks were seemingly instantaneous, so I think that this is definitely achievable, although, thankfully for the world, it'll likely take him at least months of training to achieve this, even if he's a genius.

But yeah, he'd be hard to kill, but not unkillable. He still needs to have the leeway to change the outcome during the 10 seconds he has available to him, so if you just nuke him... Also, he still needs to sleep, and I don't think he can just maintain zetsu while sleeping?

If only Benjamin just broke another vial of incurable disease near him... It's really all you need to do, without telling him about it for 10 seconds (so no gloating) to ensure his death. But he hates him so much he just shot him, and we've seen Tserriednich deal with bullets before, so we know he's going to believe, at least for a while thanks to the illusion, that he successfully killed him. I guess it makes sense to be drawn into shooting someone who is in zetsu and not protected by the guardian spirit beast, but why would he not question that someone who has learned nen remains in zetsu while facing firearms? I guess he expects that it won't actually do anything because Tserriednich will get out of zetsu and block the bullet.

I wonder what Tserriednich's plan actually is. Apparently, he wants to pretend to be dead, but why did he need the gun? I have no idea how he expects his body to be secured by his guard rather than the royal army...

yeah. tserri's ability is indeed busted because he can change anything in that 10 seconds even if it's tricky. and that slow acting disease indeed can kill him, he can't change the incurrable disease that already implemented 12 hours before. this must be a key for kurapika to defeat him later. i actually prefer he got defeated by a combo battle though. even if he is super genius, he can't do anything because he still lack other abilities for him to be more flexible in combat. it would be serious issue tho if this ability got stolen by chrollo

 

[AAA1]

So Tserridnich is watching way more than 10 seconds in the future now, he'll be an extremely hard to kill villain

i don't think so too. this is just his plan to fake his death. it's very advantageous to make the opponent think he died but actually not

 

[AAA1]

I wonder what Tserriednich's plan actually is. Apparently, he wants to pretend to be dead, but why did he need the gun? I have no idea how he expects his body to be secured by his guard rather than the royal army...

secured by guard is a protocol that would come later. i think it would be like this.
1. after 1st prince shooting at him, he will appear dead to everyone in the area.
2. he alter this event. because benjamin is fast, he already make sure tserri died and leave the room
3. after this only guard in the room who taught tserri's nen (i forget his name) announced what he sees to everyone else in other room, tserri would use his gun to kill him.
4. nobody know how he died in the room, so tserri will play death again, remove the gun, and activating his zetsu
5. i don't know how he will convince all personel that will put him in coffin to think he died tho. there will be a lot of touching to his body. it's not like halkenburg's body that indeed dead. maybe the protocol can be delayed enough he can get imitation later

 

[AAA1]

I'm dumb. I don't understand how is Benjamim supposed to win if he's going to die.

the key is the nen beast. all other prince that lose before, their nen beast already got dealt with (destroyed) or weak enough it can't protect the prince (marayam's case). we got this confirmation in the previous chapter that halkenburg is still in competition even after his body is dead. prince kancho can be excluded maybe because she was leaving the battlefield. we still don't know how this will make him deified later. or the one who make him deified is the artifact that will appear after 'fullmetal alchemist' completed

 

[Akaikitsune]

Prince Benjamin be collecting death causes like infinity stones.

He got Beyond's curse, death troop curse, all while also dying from covid.

 

[Dennis-aka-Denji]

If only Benjamin just broke another vial of incurable disease near him... It's really all you need to do, without telling him about it for 10 seconds (so no gloating) to ensure his death. But he hates him so much he just shot him

Even more so when Benjamin himself is counting on cheating death to win, not to mention Camilla has a way to undo death too. He should have made sure Ts is dead, but he is on a timer and he's massively underestimating him, he was surprised he could use nen at all.

With Halkenburg, that's three princes so far that plan to live beyond death, 4 if you count the revived twin, and I'm just not a big fan of that mechanic, way too messy.

 

[Kireato]

Even more so when Benjamin himself is counting on cheating death to win, not to mention Camilla has a way to undo death too. He should have made sure Ts is dead, but he is on a timer and he's massively underestimating him, he was surprised he could use nen at all.

With Halkenburg, that's three princes so far that plan to live beyond death, 4 if you count the revived twin, and I'm just not a big fan of that mechanic, way too messy.

Halkenburg is on a timer though; his soul will be sent back to his body in a few hours and then he'll die. What will live on is only his democratic ideals enforced by his ability through his followers. Though honestly, I'm not really all that clear about what his plan is.

Yeah, this arc is basically gazing into the abyss of sacrificial rituals, curses and what powers them, which is the souls of the sacrificed. But, it didn't introduce the concept. We've known about the phenomenon of nen becoming stronger after death though we never knew why it was even possible. However, in a world where souls exist and can, based on the circumstance which would usually be an obsessive desire, anchor themselves to the world of the living, it suddenly makes sense. Nen after death is basically the ghost of the person still using the nen for a purpose. An example of a prior case of living beyond death is Hisoka.