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@Turkeyjerkey The linguistics are a bit slippery, but basically no, they aren't. The term "ape" is normally used for a particular group of tailless hominoids which are closely related to but distinct from the critters referred to by the word "monkeys". An orangutan is an ape, not a monkey. A macaque is a monkey, not an ape.
 
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You're half right. Not all monkeys are apes, but all apes are monkeys. It's like how not all rectangles are squares, but all squares are rectangles. Cladistically speaking, all apes are a subset of old world monkeys, including humans.

Also not all languages make a distinction between monkeys and apes. Japanese saru is used for both in common parlance.
 
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@Turkeyjerkey I'm at least three quarters right. You can speak cladistically all you want--I won't disagree, apes are one-ish branch of a group that is mostly what we call monkeys. But that has little to do with meanings of words, which can describe whatever distinctions we want. The English word "monkey" is not usually used to include apes. Japanese words may draw the distinction differently, but in pointing that out you are implicitly conceding that you understand English does draw that distinction. Heck, in stories featuring sentient apes, there is often a running gag where they get really cheesed off if you call them a monkey; it's funny precisely because it exploits that linguistic distinction.
Thinking of which, why exactly did you feel motivated to destroy my joke? There I was doing a bit of fake hyperbole based on the notion that, amid all the overtly extreme stuff going on, I was supposedly mostly bothered by a minor linguistic issue--and so implying that all the really weird stuff was kind of a yawn. And then you come along and do a (mistaken) takedown of the issue itself, as if that was the point. Way to ruin it, man.
 
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