Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 26.6 - My Happy Date (Normal Version)

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it sounds more like she's telling him she kept her previous promise,
this is a new occurrence and a new suicide attempt (?)
The tense structure is that she's talking about going on the trip, not as if it already happened.

you'd be proving me right that Yami's mother did sign the legal authorization document
Why would she sign the document if she adamentedlly didn't want Aya to go?

Hospitals only use IVs in cases of serious hospitalization.
Don't love that it's a reddit thread, but IVs are used more frequently/casually in Japan

Pay attention to Yami's dress and the suitcase in 29 vs. her outfit in 29.5.
In 29 she's wearing what she came back from the trip in cause she's visiting after the trip. She hasn't left in 29.5. I don't understand what you're getting at here?

which is kinda implying Yami is afraid for her because of the previous incident.
Or b/c her mom's been threatening suicide to guilt Aya into staying and Aya knows her mom is unhinged?

Can you at least answer if you consider her behavior in this chapter toxic or not?
Yeah, it's not healthy for her. She's feeling a little off about Yuu's kindness and internally spirals instead of just talking to him, and it's this sorta swallowing her little resentments that eventually leads to her crashing out. ETA: I don't think her thoughts are at all healthy, but she needs to talk to someone about them.

He is "looking after her", not "going with the flow"
These aren't in contradiction for someone who is naturally a care taker.
 
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She's talking about going on the trip in the future tense
She doesn't mention the trip nor does she use the future tense.
But after I gave it some thought, your idea makes a lot of sense too. She says "it's only for a couple of days", which might correspond to her thoughts from 29
At first, she lashed out at me, the cause of the divorce in her eyes.
During the divorce proceedings, all the anger she'd amassed from my father was directed at me.

And when it finally got to me, when I decided to step away and leave the house again...
She attempted suicide and had to be rushed to the hospital.
And the chapter numbering argument doesn't work - since this chapter is for the official manga volume release, they couldn't make it 27.5 because that would spoil the twist.
All in all, it could be either. I wouldn't put it past Yami's mom to attempt another suicide, but also Yami dreaming about an apartment for Yuu and herself after she already decided to ghost him kinda points in the other direction.

Yeah, it's not healthy for her.
I thought one can only be toxic to someone else.
 
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Also the reason why 29.5 is a flashback placed after 29 is probably plain old storytelling if you were reading this linearly - Aya asking about the apartment hits differently if the reader has already seen her shopping for it, Aya going on the trip hits differently if the reader knows that's what her mom was yelling about before the trip. It's the same reason that the reader only learns her mom has been in the hospital the whole time after the trip.

ETA: I wrote this before seeing your last post @GennArc
 
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Kinda makes the word meaningless then. Makes every character in this manga with internal monologues toxic.
I dunno that anyone else in this manga is thinking that they want their partner to "get angry at them, hit them".

And also yeah, in basically one flavor or another, each of the ways Aya/Yuu/Hikari think about their insecurities internally leak out into the ways they hurt each other. Aya's insecurity drives her to blow things up (ETA: via test) with Yuu and Hikari rather than trust them with the most important things, Yuu's low self esteem causes Yuu to believe it's not his place to ask anything from Aya or Hikari, Hikari's need to fix all the things is leaving her spiraling in a situation she can't fix.
 
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The tense structure is that she's talking about going on the trip, not as if it already happened.
No, the structure is more as if the trip had ALREADY happened; I agree with Genn on this
Why would she sign the document if she adamentedlly didn't want Aya to go?
Because she did it reluctantly. Yami's mother has full legal power to prevent her from even leaving the house if she so orders, and to order the police to search for her daughter if she runs away. It was precisely that argument, where Yami manages to convince her to sign the document with great difficulty, that later destabilizes her and puts her on the verge of suicide. According to my theory, the call from the hotel telling her that her daughter was having sex with Yuu was the final push.
But even in your scenario, it's obvious that she signed the document reluctantly (otherwise, Yami wouldn't have had to assure her that it would only be two or three days and that she would return), and obviously, after signing it, Yami wasn't going to back out even if her mother had attempted suicide. And obviously, people can change their minds.
This chapter, whether it took place before or after chapter 28, certainly confirmed that Yami's mom did sign the document and that Yami feels guilty about how the argument to get her to sign it mentally destabilized an already mentally unstable mother.
Don't love that it's a reddit thread, but IVs are used more frequently/casually in Japan
I'd have to check the thread, but it still seems very far-fetched to me that they put Yami's mother on an IV to the point that she didn't even get up to answer her daughter when she arrived to pick her up from the hospital, as if she were still unconscious. Even assuming that IVs are more common in Japan. Especially if the supposed original suicide attempt was only with sleeping pills. Chapter 29 in both the manga and the web novel seemed to suggest that this (first?) suicide attempt was with some kind of knife or sharp object.
In 29 she's wearing what she came back from the trip in cause she's visiting after the trip. She hasn't left in 29.5. I don't understand what you're getting at here?
That's the point; she wears different clothes in chapter 29.5 that she didn't wear when she returned from the trip, nor are they the clothes she wore on the trip with Yuu, as far as we know. Therefore, it's logical that it happened after Yami's return, not before.
Hikari's need to fix all the things is leaving her spiraling in a situation she can't fix.
Half this half is partly due to Hikari's emotional insensitivity, which prevents her from noticing the distress of both Yuu and Aya at several crucial points (and at the same time makes her dismiss Aya's abusive acts in chapters 5 and 33 as mere "jokes"), as Yuki seems to notice in chapters 42 and 43. Even so, everything points to Hikari ignoring many red flags because she reached the correct conclusions and had no problem with them.
To put it simply: "Taa-kun got a girlfriend in his first year and dated her. That girlfriend helped him gain confidence and become more mature and grown-up, but then she dumped him, which is why he's so traumatized and heartbroken now. Also, that toxic ex-girlfriend might be at my school". Hence, Hikari describes herself as "the childhood friend who came too late."
She doesn't mention the trip nor does she use the future tense. But after I gave it some thought, your idea makes a lot of sense too. She says "it's only for a couple of days", which might correspond to her thoughts from 29
Yes, that's why I say, whether chapter 29.5 takes place before or after chapter 28, Yami's lines in chapter 29 still make it clear that she thinks her mother's suicide attempt was at least partly due to the argument she had with her mother to get her to reluctantly sign the legal authorization document to go on a 3-day trip with Yuu. This chapter undoubtedly confirms that.
And the chapter numbering argument doesn't work - since this chapter is for the official manga volume release, they couldn't make it 27.5 because that would spoil the twist.
If that were the case, they wouldn't have numbered chapter 13.5, the one where Yami reflects on Hikari being the childhood friend Yuu was obsessed with, because it ruins the twist that she's Yuu's ex-girlfriend. The sleepover chapter, number 21.5 in the novel version, also spoils many of the most intense sexual moments in the Ayami-Yuu relationship (although it later serves as proof that Yami did use her experiences with Yuu during those sleepovers with Hikari and her friends).
Anyway, yes, your argument is valid; it could be that way. Even so, I still really dislike the idea of Yami lying so blatantly, not only to Yuu, but also to herself and the readers, about how "everything is fine at home and everything will go back to normal and we can be together without any problems," when her mother had attempted suicide and was in the hospital at the time. That only fits with a melodramatic phone call that changed everything during the mini-time skip between chapters 28 and 29 (and Maruto has used this trope before in other works). Either that, or Yami truly deserves the harsh judgment Esgar levels at her.
And honestly, if that tiny apartment shown in chapter 29.5 is what Yami so seriously intended to offer Yuu as a "love nest," then yes, without a doubt, she earned Yuu's stunned expression, as if she'd lost her mind. If the manga made one thing clear, it's that Yami has more money than she knows what to do with at this point in the story.
All in all, it could be either.
Anyway, yes, I agree.
I wouldn't put it past Yami's mom to attempt another suicide, but also Yami dreaming about an apartment for Yuu and herself after she already decided to ghost him
To be fair, chapters 29 and 30 can be read as her seriously considering not ghosting Yuu after all; that would explain why she dreamed about an apartment. She also has similar thoughts about her stepfather's apartment in chapter 30, which is why she thinks, "Please don't make this any harder for me, Yuu", when he writes to her again after noticing that she read his messages in chapter 30.
 
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No, the structure is more as if the trip had ALREADY happened;
She says "it is only a few days", not "it was only a few days"

the argument to get her to sign it
Or the trip itself. Like there's no need for a hypothetical document - Yami's mother was upset about Yami going on this trip.

as if she were still unconscious.
It's likely early morning - they took trains throughout the night and Aya came straight from the station:

The endless day finally gave way to night, but not to darkness, just the bright glow of city lights illuminating the evening.
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But eventually...
Yuu: "Mmm... mmnnnghh!
Yami-senpai, where are we now?"
Ayami: "...Good morning, Yuu."


Chapter 29 in both the manga and the web novel seemed to suggest that this (first?) suicide attempt was with some kind of knife or sharp object.
What in the text/images seemed to suggest this? Statistically, women usually choose less violent suicide attempts.

Therefore, it's logical that it happened after Yami's return, not before.
Because Yami would only change her clothes after the trip but not a day or two before it?
 
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If that were the case, they wouldn't have numbered chapter 13.5, the one where Yami reflects on Hikari being the childhood friend Yuu was obsessed with, because it ruins the twist that she's Yuu's ex-girlfriend. The sleepover chapter, number 21.5 in the novel version, also spoils many of the most intense sexual moments in the Ayami-Yuu relationship
Both of those chapters were originally Comiket-only, they were written before the plans for commercial manga/LN releases. And 13.5 is not in the manga volume 1. Maybe it will get a new number for volume 2 or volume 3.

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It's likely early morning - they took trains throughout the night and Aya came straight from the station
No, the chapter starts with saying it's evening and with the announcement that they will soon be arriving at Tokyo station.
Besides, there is only a very limited number of overnight trains in Japan, they are always for long trips, slow and very pricey. Basically you'd always take Shinkansen over an overnight train unless you want that specific night on the train experience. And they did take the former, as shown on page 2 of the manga.
Since they live in Tokyo, I'd assume their trip was to Atami or somewhere deeper into Izu Peninsula. But Atami is the most popular resort around there and there is a Shinkansen stop in the town.
 
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No, the chapter starts with saying it's evening and with the announcement that they will soon be arriving at Tokyo station.
The sky is gray and the room is bathed in some sort of sunlight when Aya visits the hospital & Aya hasn't stopped over anywhere given she still has her luggage (and her house is near the hospital):

https://mangadex.org/chapter/0db11940-10a5-428a-8643-87a46bd90837/6

I dunno maybe she hung around the station until hospital visiting hours, the point is she likely showed up at a time when her mom would have still been asleep. (This is also true if she showed up at night).
 
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She says "it is only a few days", not "it was only a few days"
It's still not future tense; it functions more like the past perfect or something similar.
Or the trip itself. Like there's no need for a hypothetical document - Yami's mother was upset about Yami going on this trip.
Again, Yami is still a minor at this point. The document is necessary, and this chapter 29.5 proves that Yami's mother signed it; otherwise, Yami would have gone on the trip without telling her mother in the first place (as she did when she ran away from home), nor would she be promising that it will be "only for three days" if she didn't need that written permission. If Ayami's mother didn't want her to go, she had every legal right to keep her at home if she wanted, as Yuu himself hints in chapter 28.
A mother might be upset about Yami going on this trip and still reluctantly sign the paperwork, only to later regret her decision, either before Yami left or after the hotel called to tell her that the trip Ayami had insisted on taking to escape her domestic hell for "a few days" was actually to have sex with her boyfriend.
It's likely early morning - they took trains throughout the night and Aya came straight from the station
The sunlight seen in the room in chapter 29 fits more with evening sunlight, as GennArc told you, it's still technically daytime, but it's already getting dark, incidentally this ties in with the theme that if you put together the kanji for "Yuu" and "Yami", you get "sunset".
What in the text/images seemed to suggest this? Statistically, women usually choose less violent suicide attempts.
Your argument implies that Yami's mother spent at least 4-5 days, if not a week, in the hospital for a simple suicide attempt using sleeping pills. You don't put someone on IVs, much less for that long, who "only" used pills, even in Japan, assuming your Reddit thread was true.
And we're not talking about a "normal" woman; we're talking about the mother of a girl who has repeatedly expressed a desire to violently cut her wrists, who associates sexual pleasure with physical pain. Yami has directly stated that she finds pain and being hurt as pleasurable. "Let's wound our hearts together, Yuu".
And before you say that the daughter and the mother aren't the same, we definitely hear Yami's mom breaking things during her argument with Yami's stepfather in chapter 27, so she is indeed capable of resorting to violence against others... as well as herself. Aya's mom's original suicide attempt makes more sense if it involved a sharp object.
 
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Your argument implies that Yami's mother spent at least 4-5 days, if not a week, in the hospital for a simple suicide attempt using sleeping pills

I just wanna address this on the off chance someone reading this thread has to deal w/ someone who attempted or successfully completed suicide using sleeping pills or is considering doing so.

An OD of any sort, including on sleeping pills, can lead to severe organ failure, as can the hypoxia and hypovention induced by sleeping pills. That takes varying amounts of time to recover depending on the person's physical health before the OD.

On top of that, someone who is unstable enough to attempt suicide is going to need some amount of time to recover psychologically. They're not magically less distressed b/c they chose to kill themselves using pills they already had at hand. No responsible hospital is discharging a clearly unwell psych patient.
 
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