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THE QUESTION: "Why is sexual content in shows and movies a thing? Why is that entertaining?"
EXPLANATION
Didn't know where else to post this, but since it is original fiction related, it seems fitting.
I like to think there's extremes in any story, every story has one or another, very rare to find a balanced story. It's not a bad thing, I usually lean toward the violent extreme in stories: incredibly descriptive resultants of violence and whatnot. I find it's not only fun but, sort of allows for an odd catharsis if the violence has been sparing up to the point.
To the topic at hand, I'm wondering of one of these Extremes: Sexual Content in general. This'll be a difficult question to answer, but I'm not one who find sexual acts or violence of that same nature entertaining. I'm not scared of sex, I am scared of "grape" let's call it, deathly afraid by it. But, usually stories present things to entertain an audience, and thusly those sexual acts, whether depicted consensually or not are meant to entertain an audience.
Sure, I enjoy and intend one day to present stories to the world where people die. My question is not whether it's right or not. It's: coming from one who finds no interest or draw to sexual content in stories, why is it entertaining? I enjoy stories which are funny, dramatic, action-packed, or even a bit slow, even horrifying sometimes But, I've never understood the Sexual Extreme
The question crops up cuz I'm brainstorming a Western, something I've always wanted to do. Been watching Tarantino films and watched the Dollars Trilogy for the first time last week. I'm feeling confident, I have the air, the idea.
What brought the question to mind was I watched 1923, 33, whatever the frick it's name is. It's second season, and Lord have Mercy Taylor Sheridan is crazy sometimes. Now I know it's weird, but It made me think that I, one who finds sexual content in media disgusting, may not be able to produce a story people will understand.
I think of it often. I mean look, for example, very small thing, but in the Live Action One Piece they had Ussop kiss Kaya, when that did not happen in either anime or manga. It wasn't necessary, you can already sense a tenderness between them, a friendship, maybe something more. But, it's as if someone in the world is so stupid they can't understand it.
I'd get into direct examples from 19-whatever but... Why is it necessary? It feels unnecessary when there's about a dozen more entertaining ways one can establish a connection or disconnection. But, it always ends this way. Is it just "Sex Sells?"
Just a small gripe.
I know I'm opening a floodgate of jokes to be made here but, it's bugged me for some time. I know it's often used obviously, as I've said to emphasize a connection or disconnection usually, But, I still don't get why it's entertaining?
REASONING IT OUT PERSONALLY
I guess I could ask the same about the violence I love to write. I finished writing the first massive chapter of a story i've wanted to do for years recently. A young woman, all her friends dead about her, and her enemies dying, wanders to the biggest antagonist who's already dead and stomps in his face. Why I found that necessary is for several reasons:
1. Throughout the entire chapter this Antagonist has been an insufferable, rebellious, judgmental, high-horsed agitator. Especially to the protagonist.
2. He (In her mind, he actually did not kill a single one of her friends but she didn't know that) participated in hurting her and her friends, and was willing to hand her over to kidnappers.
3. In the end, the final "Showdown" which is over in seconds leave her at the other mercy of her enemies, her friends dead, and a miracle saving her life. She's had no catharsis, no way to express the rage and sorrow.
It benefited the story in my eyes. It entertained me because when I reread it, the journey to that point was so upsetting it felt a grasping at straws, but the straws were all that were left for her (Very, very bleak opening, sort of serves as opening to the story and a presentation and foreshadowing of the story to come and the themes of it).
I guess, applying this same logic, one of my recent favorite films "Inglourious Basterds" has a 10 second Sex Scene in it. And it's whole purpose is to show that the man, and his "translator" aren't just simply that. It's sort of a jump scare joke, quite hilarious, and is perhaps the only scene like this I suppose I found shocking, funny, which I suppose both fall under entertainment. (It doesn't show too much, It's clear what's happening though)
Manga wise, toward the end of Souten No Ken (Fist of the Blue Sky), we see the progenitor of Hokuto No Ken and his love pretty much bang. The moment is displayed to "pound" home the point of the loss, of how the creation of this style saw them apart. Going "Deeper" (this conversation) it also shows how the guy who is taught by his love the secrets of her own style to excel his own is growing closer to those secrets, this is pressed further by the symbol of Hokuto being around her body.
Nevertheless, I still cringe at both though, but I do get why they're there. What's the draw though? why? Everyone has their thing, I guess.
I don't feel like I'm missing out, I just want to understand why it's entertaining to others. How're people so... how is it so ordinary?
I could go on all day, my apologies!
EXPLANATION
Didn't know where else to post this, but since it is original fiction related, it seems fitting.
I like to think there's extremes in any story, every story has one or another, very rare to find a balanced story. It's not a bad thing, I usually lean toward the violent extreme in stories: incredibly descriptive resultants of violence and whatnot. I find it's not only fun but, sort of allows for an odd catharsis if the violence has been sparing up to the point.
To the topic at hand, I'm wondering of one of these Extremes: Sexual Content in general. This'll be a difficult question to answer, but I'm not one who find sexual acts or violence of that same nature entertaining. I'm not scared of sex, I am scared of "grape" let's call it, deathly afraid by it. But, usually stories present things to entertain an audience, and thusly those sexual acts, whether depicted consensually or not are meant to entertain an audience.
Sure, I enjoy and intend one day to present stories to the world where people die. My question is not whether it's right or not. It's: coming from one who finds no interest or draw to sexual content in stories, why is it entertaining? I enjoy stories which are funny, dramatic, action-packed, or even a bit slow, even horrifying sometimes But, I've never understood the Sexual Extreme
The question crops up cuz I'm brainstorming a Western, something I've always wanted to do. Been watching Tarantino films and watched the Dollars Trilogy for the first time last week. I'm feeling confident, I have the air, the idea.
What brought the question to mind was I watched 1923, 33, whatever the frick it's name is. It's second season, and Lord have Mercy Taylor Sheridan is crazy sometimes. Now I know it's weird, but It made me think that I, one who finds sexual content in media disgusting, may not be able to produce a story people will understand.
I think of it often. I mean look, for example, very small thing, but in the Live Action One Piece they had Ussop kiss Kaya, when that did not happen in either anime or manga. It wasn't necessary, you can already sense a tenderness between them, a friendship, maybe something more. But, it's as if someone in the world is so stupid they can't understand it.
I'd get into direct examples from 19-whatever but... Why is it necessary? It feels unnecessary when there's about a dozen more entertaining ways one can establish a connection or disconnection. But, it always ends this way. Is it just "Sex Sells?"
Just a small gripe.
I know I'm opening a floodgate of jokes to be made here but, it's bugged me for some time. I know it's often used obviously, as I've said to emphasize a connection or disconnection usually, But, I still don't get why it's entertaining?
REASONING IT OUT PERSONALLY
I guess I could ask the same about the violence I love to write. I finished writing the first massive chapter of a story i've wanted to do for years recently. A young woman, all her friends dead about her, and her enemies dying, wanders to the biggest antagonist who's already dead and stomps in his face. Why I found that necessary is for several reasons:
1. Throughout the entire chapter this Antagonist has been an insufferable, rebellious, judgmental, high-horsed agitator. Especially to the protagonist.
2. He (In her mind, he actually did not kill a single one of her friends but she didn't know that) participated in hurting her and her friends, and was willing to hand her over to kidnappers.
3. In the end, the final "Showdown" which is over in seconds leave her at the other mercy of her enemies, her friends dead, and a miracle saving her life. She's had no catharsis, no way to express the rage and sorrow.
It benefited the story in my eyes. It entertained me because when I reread it, the journey to that point was so upsetting it felt a grasping at straws, but the straws were all that were left for her (Very, very bleak opening, sort of serves as opening to the story and a presentation and foreshadowing of the story to come and the themes of it).
I guess, applying this same logic, one of my recent favorite films "Inglourious Basterds" has a 10 second Sex Scene in it. And it's whole purpose is to show that the man, and his "translator" aren't just simply that. It's sort of a jump scare joke, quite hilarious, and is perhaps the only scene like this I suppose I found shocking, funny, which I suppose both fall under entertainment. (It doesn't show too much, It's clear what's happening though)
Manga wise, toward the end of Souten No Ken (Fist of the Blue Sky), we see the progenitor of Hokuto No Ken and his love pretty much bang. The moment is displayed to "pound" home the point of the loss, of how the creation of this style saw them apart. Going "Deeper" (this conversation) it also shows how the guy who is taught by his love the secrets of her own style to excel his own is growing closer to those secrets, this is pressed further by the symbol of Hokuto being around her body.
Nevertheless, I still cringe at both though, but I do get why they're there. What's the draw though? why? Everyone has their thing, I guess.
I don't feel like I'm missing out, I just want to understand why it's entertaining to others. How're people so... how is it so ordinary?
I could go on all day, my apologies!
