How Do You Feel About "NTR"?

[panzerkampfwagyu]

I did consider myself a fan of it for a time, after reading a really satisfying Nisekoi Doujin with it.
It turned out that I just despised Harem protagonists with a passion.
So currently, I treat it as "don't actually particularly like it, but I am not strongly opposed to it either."

 

[wandere]

Patterns? Quite simple:

• Being mainly means being forceful and having a big dick, so even if I'm bad at words everyone will fall instantly for me.
• My partner is my wallet but worthless otherwise, so I need someone to fill that void.
• Oh, my partners/friends managed to kick me out and even the one I loved has turned me away.
• Your good-for-nothing teenager who never confessed has to see their crush going out with someone else.
• This pure character is going to be wrecked by several people who treat them like rubbish.
• Oh no, my lover is secretly being blackmailed and turned into a human pet!

You get the gist, you can add more variations but it's essentially the same story over and over. Some people are just masochists.

Ah no, I think I didn't get it across correctly. When I mean "patterns", I don't mean like NTR tropes, I mean like "what are common things that this medium does that people from the outside looking in seem to hate but those who are actually buying this, actually funding it, seem to just eat up?" One example of that in wn/lns is the "You're kicked out of the party; btw your girlfriend was cheating on you" start, but it could also be something like the "cheat ability", "ability that seems useless but is secretly op", "chance encounter that almost single-handedly leads the protagonist to the top", etc. In particular, my focus is on popular tropes such as the protagonist being cheated on, a betrayal (like being left for dead) leading to the protagonist craving revenge (or if not them purposely seeking it a bad end for whoever betrayed them regardless), that seem less there to be enjoyable for the reader and more to make them attached to the story in a very superficial way; making you angry or frustrated and wanting to keep reading to see exactly when the revenge occurs.
In a weird way, people who heavily dislike ntr (as in actual hentai) do sometimes say things along the lines of "If I was there I would have [commited violent act towards either the stolen partner in the story, the person stealing, or both]", so there is at least some overlap in why people see it in a negative light, although there are other more analytical reasons that I don't believe get brought up in anime circles so...

 

[Angry_Panda]

I feel like there should be more NTR with dragons.

 

[wandere]

I feel like there should be more NTR with dragons.

Stealing a lover from the dragon? The dragon stealing a lover from a human? Stealing the dragon from another dragon? The possibilities are endless

 

[Manko-sensei]

Ah no, I think I didn't get it across correctly. When I mean "patterns", I don't mean like NTR tropes, I mean like "what are common things that this medium does that people from the outside looking in seem to hate but those who are actually buying this, actually funding it, seem to just eat up?" One example of that in wn/lns is the "You're kicked out of the party; btw your girlfriend was cheating on you" start, but it could also be something like the "cheat ability", "ability that seems useless but is secretly op", "chance encounter that almost single-handedly leads the protagonist to the top", etc. In particular, my focus is on popular tropes such as the protagonist being cheated on, a betrayal (like being left for dead) leading to the protagonist craving revenge (or if not them purposely seeking it a bad end for whoever betrayed them regardless), that seem less there to be enjoyable for the reader and more to make them attached to the story in a very superficial way; making you angry or frustrated and wanting to keep reading to see exactly when the revenge occurs.
In a weird way, people who heavily dislike ntr (as in actual hentai) do sometimes say things along the lines of "If I was there I would have [commited violent act towards either the stolen partner in the story, the person stealing, or both]", so there is at least some overlap in why people see it in a negative light, although there are other more analytical reasons that I don't believe get brought up in anime circles so...

You should ask the customers then, from comments I recall there's a good amount that reads whatever following the logic "it's hot" and "what should I care about the guy, are you gay?". Beyond that, there's no point generalising, there are a fair share of intels who read it regularly because of the mistreatment and others who do that as a guilty pleasure. So instead of asking what may be you can simply visit comment sections in different pages and hopefully find a poll about main preferences of the audience.

 

[wandere]

You should ask the customers then, from comments I recall there's a good amount that reads whatever following the logic "it's hot" and "what should I care about the guy, are you gay?". Beyond that, there's no point generalising, there are a fair share of intels who read it regularly because of the mistreatment and others who do that as a guilty pleasure. So instead of asking what may be you can simply visit comment sections in different pages and hopefully find a poll about main preferences of the audience.

I tried that and it felt like there wasn't anyone vocal about enjoying those aspects; although I guess it is important to remember ntr as the point of the story and ntr as a plot device to grab the reader's attention are two different things.
Guess we're either going to the Hentai Mines (Recommended Level: 69) or the Spire of Webnovel (Recommended Level: 20). I suppose I have recently found myself with more time to spend on weird pursuits such as this.