Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 32

[SciFiMisc]

I wish the MC had something even remotely resembling a backbone. Imagine this chapter with a character actually able to fire back at all. He doesn't need their money, manpower, time, assistance, and he barely needs their material resources.

Imagine if this chapter didn't suck and he was allowed to communicate that clearly.

 

[Zeemigoo]

Maybe we’re witnessing a character grow and learn to stand up for themselves and gain confidence in their ability to navigate in what are entirely novel situations idk.

I don’t see it as miyabi not having a backbone/always getting taken advantage of when a lot of the things have simply aligned with what he already wants to do and don’t cause a tremendous amount of friction.

Yes there are times when he could force an issue and ensure he gets a super awesome outcome for himself at the expense of others but it’s pretty clear that’s not his MO.

But we’ve also just seen him stick up for himself in what is clearly a tense situation for him, ie we are witnessing character growth.

Idk it’s weird how many ppl hate the OP MC who gets whatever they want and face zero adversity. But then hate when a character has to grow in any way that isn’t physical/magical power boost.

Just my thoughts and not aiming these at any comments in particular btw.

 

[JACGohu]

Realistically speaking, if everyone knows he can build tunnels easily, he would be on demand for every single mining projects as well, on top of all other tunnels and roadworks.
That elevated profile is bound to make many unnecessary attention, i.e. jealousy from people/organization who used to do public works, and unwanted interest from people of power who will not want him to leave the country (since he would be a vital asset).

True, but in this world, it would seem tunnels built for passageways isn't exactly a normal practice. I assume that due to lack of infrastructure and technology, it would be an extremely costly venture to build even one for sustainable long term use. At their level, I surmise theyre more likely to have roads snake around the landscape. Mining projects, will depend on how often veins are discovered. Of course employees will need to be given first consideration for things like that, so he won't be called first either.

Me, my main comment is about Guildmasters Giorgi and Elda; more of a nitpick, really. Elda belongs to an association of merchants and traders, and Giorgi complains that it's always about money with them. Yes. They're merchants, so what else would it be about if not money? As old as Giorgi is, I find it hard to fathom how he could not have figured that out, or even have come to even a begrudging level of acceptance in all his years of service. Or did he only just rise to his rank recently from running a workshop?

 

[andrake]

I'm not gonna try replying to any of the points made in this thread, but it's not as though the guilds wouldn't be concerned if Miyabi goes ahead with the project with only the Duke's approval. Even if it somehow works out that Duke Beldini was perfectly ok with Miyabi building a whole train fixture and all towards the city, he can't reasonably protect Miyabi from any scrutiny if any guilds felt like the train threatened their business. And that's before considering the political cost of doing so.

It sort of makes sense in my mind that the Duke had to bring them into the loop by this time, even if it was unreasonable for them to start making demands about rights to the train itself.

This isn't some individual's house or some pit in a field or a tunnel in a cave, Miyabi will encroach on somebody's property and likely incur a lot of attention, positive or negative, in the process.

 

[HappyFabian]

Funny thing is, they literally offered Liz the "too good to be true" scholarship because they want to split them up (disband the party) so Miyabi can be free to be exploited for his power by them without Liz around because he insisted to be an adventurer with Liz. If he stayed in the capitol, every plan of the sleezy Duke and his bitch daughter would be for nothing. They are really not good people. But as we can see this chapter, MC is not exactly a smart person to realize any of it.

Actually, I think that the Duke's daughter is trying to help Miyabi and Liz for real. Like genuinely.
That's why the report didn't bring the fact that Miyabi wanted to have usage of the train for Liz.
She's not exactly free of sin, but she's trying to be fair to them. She know Miyabi is really really profitable and useful, and also know Liz has unparalleled potential to become a great mage too. So having them separated would have been good for her, but she also seems kinder than her father, specially when she doesn't mind that her fiance has 'useless' skills.
She's complying with her father's orders, but not disregarding Liz and Miyabi's wishes, making her a better leader, and best candidate for queen.

 

[Aqua_Mizue]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[vorador]

I wish the MC had something even remotely resembling a backbone. Imagine this chapter with a character actually able to fire back at all. He doesn't need their money, manpower, time, assistance, and he barely needs their material resources.

Imagine if this chapter didn't suck and he was allowed to communicate that clearly.

He was picked to go to that world because he didn't had any backbone, and did whatever he was asked for.

But I do agree that he should have had managed that meeting much better, seeing that he was a white collar worker used to meetings and project presentation.

 

[loosalat]

Bro, the dude held ALL the cards in this negotiation what the fuck? So what if the project gets cancelled? Just build your own train with your own blackjack and hookers. It's not like they can start without him.

 

[loosalat]

OK, I've cooled down.

Since the last page showed that the daughter did not mention all of the information to her father, i'm feeling that we are not being told the entire story. So far the lore seems fairly comprehensive so having a braindead moment might be on par for whats next.

 

[EchoGirl]

lol yamcha death pose

the font on page 14 makes 'kowtow' look like it's spelled with an H

 

[KiraEllion]

Man thats the dumbest trope, specially when its applied to characters that are supposed to be smart. "Do it in half the time" no motherfucker thats not how it works.

Pay Attention. Miyabi outright admits to himself he gave himself more time then he needed.
the duke is smart enough to know this is a common trick everyone (yes irl too) quotes more time then they need. theres also the trope of performing better under pressure.

 

[KiraEllion]

WORDS

This is how real life operates. hes a layperson with good skills but no legal protection without the duke putting that "can use the thing whenever he wants " he would ultimately have no rights or say in how its used.

now in real life we do have some basic protections for the creators of an new invention but everyone there even the duke is perfectly willing to cut him out if hes gonna make it easy for them

 

[Rafalga]

Actually, I think that the Duke's daughter is trying to help Miyabi and Liz for real. Like genuinely.
That's why the report didn't bring the fact that Miyabi wanted to have usage of the train for Liz.
She's not exactly free of sin, but she's trying to be fair to them. She know Miyabi is really really profitable and useful, and also know Liz has unparalleled potential to become a great mage too. So having them separated would have been good for her, but she also seems kinder than her father, specially when she doesn't mind that her fiance has 'useless' skills.
She's complying with her father's orders, but not disregarding Liz and Miyabi's wishes, making her a better leader, and best candidate for queen.

If Miyabi had little over room temperture IQ, he could precure every "assistance" these two snakes offered, all by himself. He literally doesn't need any of them. Studying in school? Money solves everything. Dude is a walking talking city buildler. But he is retarded and doesn't even understand how one leverages their power so we have these people exploiting him as a result. (and story shows it like its a good thing form the start which is what my majority of problems with it lies. Specially the daughter)

 

[Fuew12]

people commented how he just need build it himself really didnt read last chapter eh
the problem is in legal right since Miyabi is "nobody" in that country and "just tunneled the land by yourself" pretty much infringed the landlord right, of course that idiot lady and old shit need to talked down since they arrogant enough think they got the right but all of this in assumption Miyabi need them to build it which where they wrong, as for the duke i think someone already mentioned how shortened deadline actually to protect Miyabi since currently the area in winter so low traffic from other city/territory, the problem i saw in comment section about duke because he not in full in MC side like other series with some "yes man" good noble that somehow always on MC side without clear reason, i mean Duke beldini at best gray leaning to white since he prioritize his realm rather "someone out of nowhere without clear background"
there also kind "stupid" comment about how Miyabi just need to build city himself, and who will manage the said city? from where the inhabitant of said city come? how about legal system with the kingdom or other nobles? remember Miyabi only good at one thing that is creation other than this already shown he pretty much incompetent, sure he might able to build the building its self but that its

 

[Gatenka]

If Miyabi had little over room temperture IQ, he could precure every "assistance" these two snakes offered, all by himself. He literally doesn't need any of them. Studying in school? Money solves everything. Dude is a walking talking city buildler. But he is retarded and doesn't even understand how one leverages their power so we have these people exploiting him as a result. (and story shows it like its a good thing form the start which is what my majority of problems with it lies. Specially the daughter)

There's a reason why there's the frequently quoted Japanese idiom that goes:

"The nail that sticks out gets hammered."

That pretty much tells of the Japanese culture in expecting conformity at the expense of looking nigh idiotic to outsiders, and why it appears to look like a positive trait in the manga.

Individualistic goals are frowned upon, even though it's what we generally expect from creative folks regardless, and Miyabi would've clearly solved it all on his own if he didn't have this conforming mindset.

And as others have previously mentioned, unless it's some power fantasy manga that gives unparalleled strength and/or magic, the MC tends to end up being somewhat naive, or at worst, dumb as rocks.

 

[Amariithynar]

Me, my main comment is about Guildmasters Giorgi and Elda; more of a nitpick, really. Elda belongs to an association of merchants and traders, and Giorgi complains that it's always about money with them. Yes. They're merchants, so what else would it be about if not money? As old as Giorgi is, I find it hard to fathom how he could not have figured that out, or even have come to even a begrudging level of acceptance in all his years of service. Or did he only just rise to his rank recently from running a workshop?

It honestly felt more like old banter that they're used to, since she so quickly deflected it and moved on.

 

[Romisterie]

OK, I've cooled down.

Since the last page showed that the daughter did not mention all of the information to her father, i'm feeling that we are not being told the entire story. So far the lore seems fairly comprehensive so having a braindead moment might be on par for whats next.

Considering Miyabi remind her of her father and implied she too experienced what Liz are experiencing she might have done it to get a soft revenge. Let her father experience what she experienced.

 

[Insignis]

Chiffon definitely screwed her father over to make sure Miyabi got whatever the hell he wanted, but in a beautifully subtle way. She is very much growing on me as a character.

I just want to know whats up with the Maid girl. Depending on how/why/etc I may still dislike Chiffon.

And as others have previously mentioned, unless it's some power fantasy manga that gives unparalleled strength and/or magic, the MC tends to end up being somewhat naive, or at worst, dumb as rocks.

I mean MC here is also OP as fuck and has unparalleled magic or at least way of using it.

Also in some unparalleled strength/magic mangas MC also is dumb or at least "nice guy" with a heavy "lack of common sense" denseness to him.

 

[Walshboy]

It's retarded. No one aside from the Duke has any leverage. Miyabi doesn't have to give them any stake. They should get on their knees and beg him to let them contribute before talking about rights. But no the protagonist always has to be a spineless shoelacer bugman.

Ah, yes. The major guilds that have posts in the city have no leverage... Wow. The merchant guild that cares about and controls the trade lines clearly wouldn't send goons after a guy trying to straight up bypass their main service. The production guild sure wouldn't notice all the workers needed going off to do a job that doesn't exist. "Why give them a stake!?" because they are the government who controls the very ability to accomplish what he wants

Sir, it's like trying to build a subway line between your house and your school, illegally. In fact, it would be literally that! Can you imagine what would happen if the town you lived in found out you had built one? Would no one care? Hell no! They would care a whole lot about not only interacting with people's property but about the fact you are trying to create a service without proper permits. On our world, that's jail time. There... it might be execution.

So our main character could build it in secret, under threat of violence and death, only to be used by him and his friend. OR he could get the actual resources to build it, approval of the guilds, and make money. Miyabi is a crafter first and foremost, he isn't great with the politics and isn't a fighter. I see no reason why he wouldn't be shy and feel intimidated by people who have way more power than him. The fact the HE has any stake is impressive because he is such a great crafter. Don't get the concepts mixed around.

Bro, you've got a powertrip MC mindset, not a realistic one.

 

[GridLite]

This is why i absolutely abhor beta mentality that is plaguing manga because if I don't love miyabi, I'd drop this in a heartbeat considering he's not even reflecting on his dumbass. I especially loathe when some authors(ofc I'm talking about other mangas, not this) portrays behaving subservient equates to being kind and polite