Isekai Craft Gurashi ~Jiyuu Kimama na Seisan Shoku no Honobono Slow Life~ - Ch. 34

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I dunno, Karen is an example of the common crafter. It’s not like they have Miyabis all across the continent nor would it be feasible to have Miyabi do all the work. As the Duke says, if Miyabi isn’t there and the common crafter has to make and maintain the train, would it even still be able to function? This is also a test to see if it is doable without him. Of course, achieving this may also open the doorway to just cutting Miyabi out.
Karen's still very much an outlier, as well, though not to the degree of Miyabi, and shifting all of the production duties for a massive infrastructure project from a team of people to one individual is... actually worse. What he should want is a system of standards and documented procedures that can be replicated by any craftsman of his choosing. Rechargeable or fuel-based propulsion. Even a backup plan for the use of the rails. You SHOULD want to be able to cut One Guy out of your national transportation infrastructure plans. That's how robber barons happen.
 
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he originally just asking for permission to build it.
it the frickin noble who want it to be a project for kingdom.

so he has all the right for is reason. even if it selfish, it was originally for him to begin with.

it like, you asking to be allowed creating a room, only for People to barged in and demand this and that only for them to take over the room
Yes, but do remember he doesn't own any of the lands that will be excavating when he makes it for himself. It's like creating a cave system in government property.
 
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his point is stupid.

The flaw is there but pretending it's as unsolvable of an issue as hes making it out to be he even says 10+ years if hes as smart as he claims then he knows how much profit could be made in those 10 years (and that's assuming it's not the other number he quoted 50)
Something that would be solved within maybe 4 years tops assuming they don't hire specialists to try to make improvements on a train from a guy who still essentially knows very little about how magic works in this setting

There's a difference between Testing someone or rigging deals in your favor and being a prick he's literally giving up his stated goals (and some assumed ones) because it's not flawless.
You're going the basis that people's magic will eventually be on par, or even near Miyabi's level. Sure, magic can progress in 10 years, but who's to say that it can even compare to Miyabi's?
 
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Thank you for the chapter!
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Look at her, she's just too damn cute! 🥰

Also maybe the design could be better if you GAVE HIM THE TIME HE REQUESTED for R&D, asshole. You expect a guy to work a miracle in 3 months and get upset that it required a miracle?
 
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he originally just asking for permission to build it.
it the frickin noble who want it to be a project for kingdom.

so he has all the right for is reason. even if it selfish, it was originally for him to begin with.
Idea is free to have but real estate isn't, bud.
Miyabi's no longer in a video game where players can do whatever they like anymore, the land here has ownership. And it's not even entirely within Duke Bernini's territory, it's connected to royal capital which belongs to the crown. He must present all proofs that the project is feasible, or else the King will just tell him to f*ck off. Also in case something bad happens down the line, the responsible will fall on his head first, not a freelancer who can run off anytime.
 
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Honestly, when I first saw that mechanism, I had no clue what it was. In my mind at least, I was thinking maybe it was a Transmission block of some sort. To shunt the Mechanical Energy from the wheels into something else to release the energy and slow down (Like engine braking). I wasn't expecting something as silly as blocking air holes. Then again, he is an architect buff, since he couldn't even remember how a steam engine works.

While I understand the Duke's concern, I don't understand the issue. Miyabi made his magical bath, and that needs magical energy as well. He's not worried about maintenance on that. It can't be that it's a single charge and that it's useless after, the block itself isn't consumed. And I refuse to believe the hot water blocks will run for years on a single charge. So shouldn't anyone be able to charge the Magic supply on that Wind Block/Engine? Miyabi is obviously incredibly skilled to create it, but I don't think that means others can't.

Not like Tunnel Expansion is going to be an issue. Miyabi just excels in speed and scale. You could dig the hole with laborers, the timescale isn't unreasonable, Miyabi is just broken.
It's not tunnel expansion but line expansion that is the issue. Right now, Miyabi is the only one who can make those engines run. the Duke wants to invest in technology that he will be able to use even if Miyabi disappears right now.

I think the Duke's plan is to elevate the position of crafters in the kingdom. If Miyabi can pass his skills to Karon then it means any crafter has the potential to do great work. That includes his future son-in-law, the Prince. If the Prince can be taught to be even half as skilled Miyabi then the Prince's reputation will skyrocket and he will earn the respect he should already have. This just proves that the Beldinis have seen the true potential of having Miyabi around and that Karon has more skill than she realizes as his apprentice.
Not only that, but it helps test Miyabi's ability to see if it truly is just really strong Crafter ability or if it's something else, since they're still unsure of his origins and how he just suddenly showed up as strong as he was.
 
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Thank you for the chapter!
YQfhzGM.jpeg

Look at her, she's just too damn cute! 🥰

Also maybe the design could be better if you GAVE HIM THE TIME BE REQUESTED for R&D, asshole. You expect a guy to work a miracle in 3 months and get upset that it required a miracle?
Did Miyabi not pull a miracle out of his ass by creating an environment suitable for his withered roses? Did Miyabi not (in the Duke’s eyes) invent a new way of removing water from the baths without need for a mage to levitate water out? Did you forget others asked “What is plumbing? Another kind of handicraft?” because drainage systems was unheard of.
 
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Karen's still very much an outlier, as well, though not to the degree of Miyabi, and shifting all of the production duties for a massive infrastructure project from a team of people to one individual is... actually worse. What he should want is a system of standards and documented procedures that can be replicated by any craftsman of his choosing. Rechargeable or fuel-based propulsion. Even a backup plan for the use of the rails. You SHOULD want to be able to cut One Guy out of your national transportation infrastructure plans. That's how robber barons happen.
I think that's what the Duke's doing though. He didn't completely cut Miyabi off from the project, he wanted Miyabi to stop solving problem with brute force and come up with an idea learnable by other people. Karen just happened to be the only newbie among the three. Miyabi now works as the brain while Karen is his hands and feet.

Regarding the project's scale, it's not actually that massive at the current stage. The Duke said he can't "invest money in it yet", which means he never intended for their team to do everything until completion (he didn't see Miyabi finished that tunnel in a day). Karen only needs to work alone until the project passed the trial stage, then he'll hire more workers to complete the rest. The trial tunnel is ready, rail track is ready, all that left is a viable technology anyone can use.
 
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Idk why people are calling the duke dumb. He has every right to complain about the tech.

If no one is able to maintain the tech by the time Miyabi's gone, it'd just be an unusable relic (and one that can open a lot of holes in the capital city's defenses too since it is a giant tunnel with no way to deter anyone from trying to walk through it). He knows Miyabi is an outlier when it comes to his skills, he just needs to see tech that a regular crafter is also capable of learning and maintaining so Miyabi wouldn't be the lynchpin of the entire technology.

He can handle getting people to reheat the greenhouse when it stops working (and it breaking isn't the end of the world either since it's mainly a luxury for his estate). He can't handle the train suddenly not working especially if it's a public project that people are going to depend on.

Basically, imagine if all the planes slowly stopped working with no one being able to fix them for potentially a long time, and now the only way you can travel between areas are via land and water travel. Things that would've only taken you a couple hours of travel by plane now will take you days and months on land/water to accomplish. The economy would crash due to the disrepair. As someone of his position, you really don't want to be the one having to handle the fallback when the technology eventually breaks.
 
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Man, thanks for the complete chapter.

If anything this is pretty irritating. Sure Miyabi has a end-game crafter build so he can do far better stuff than this world crafters, but that wasn't part of the deal. He delivered to spec, and now the point is to further perfect the prototype until it's ready for commercialisation.

Also, it's the first time we've heard enchantments are time limited.
 
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Idk why people are calling the duke dumb. He has every right to complain about the tech.

If no one is able to maintain the tech by the time Miyabi's gone, it'd just be an unusable relic (and one that can open a lot of holes in the capital city's defenses too since it is a giant tunnel with no way to deter anyone from trying to walk through it). He knows Miyabi is an outlier when it comes to his skills, he just needs to see tech that a regular crafter is also capable of learning and maintaining so Miyabi wouldn't be the lynchpin of the entire technology.

Agreed. While it might seem a little mean to single out Karon, they're still pretty typical for someone who uses the Crafting skill in a professional capacity.

If they can be taught to build/repair the currently Miyabi-essential parts of the train, then it becomes a viable technology and not just an amazing novelty.
 
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Man, thanks for the complete chapter.

If anything this is pretty irritating. Sure Miyabi has a end-game crafter build so he can do far better stuff than this world crafters, but that wasn't part of the deal. He delivered to spec, and now the point is to further perfect the prototype until it's ready for commercialisation.

Also, it's the first time we've heard enchantments are time limited.
With respect to time-limited enchantments, Miyabi did actually bring that up when he was first pitching the idea to Liz and Chiffon with a chart that seemed to indicate the max runtime even he could squeeze out of it was 24 hours. I'm still scratching my head as to why that didn't come up in the bathhouse arc, even if those enchantments would be way easier to replace on account of the blocks all being really small and simple versus this wind block that's one big honkin' mfer
 
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mc, remember why you were building the thing... you don't need the noble investment, it doesn't need to be a train, it just needs to transport you and your friends, build a car mc, you can do it, is easier than a train.
 
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mc, remember why you were building the thing... you don't need the noble investment, it doesn't need to be a train, it just needs to transport you and your friends, build a car mc, you can do it, is easier than a train.
A car? On land?! Where monsters roam and flying monsters can dive-bomb?! Also, it would run into the same issue of needing functional brakes.
 
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A car? On land?! Where monsters roam and flying monsters can dive-bomb?! Also, it would run into the same issue of needing functional brakes.
you talk as if cars don't run at good speed on land. And if monsters dive-bomb the car, then caravans between cities would be impossible. And the "brake problem" was solved already.
 
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his point is stupid.

The flaw is there but pretending it's as unsolvable of an issue as hes making it out to be he even says 10+ years if hes as smart as he claims then he knows how much profit could be made in those 10 years (and that's assuming it's not the other number he quoted 50)
Something that would be solved within maybe 4 years tops assuming they don't hire specialists to try to make improvements on a train from a guy who still essentially knows very little about how magic works in this setting

There's a difference between Testing someone or rigging deals in your favor and being a prick he's literally giving up his stated goals (and some assumed ones) because it's not flawless.
Oh sure, 50 years profit, how nice. You think the economy will pace itself at the 25 year mark and slowly wind down back to the pre-Miyabi normal?
No.

The moment the Miyabi train breaks down the economy will crash smack first against a wall. How many people in 50 years do you figure will have built their livelihoods around that train's existence? What will they do now, unemployed and incapable of finding a job in an economy struggling to return to pre-Miyabi "normal"?
This isn't a callous noble or trader out for prestige or a quick buck, he's actually looking out for his territory and there's plenty at stake.

Consider this: Where are you pulling that 4 year time from? Because unlike us readers he can't afford to pull it out his ass. He needs to know
  1. What the required skillset will be. This is part of the prototype and design process.
  2. What will it take to train someone to that level from near-scratch (let alone an entire workforce capable of training future generations!)
The entire point of asking Miyabi to compromise towards a design (and associated skillset!) that Karon can build is to clear up these unknowns. People keep saying Karon represents the average craftman, and they're wrong:
It represents a benchmark for exactly how far and how fast an average craftman training under Miyabi's guidance can come along. A benchmark Duke Beldini has had ample opportunity to keep a close eye on thanks to the greenhouse project.
 

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