Isekai Kaeri no Saikyou Tamer, Tsukaima wa Osananajimi - Ch. 7

[MangaDex]

 

[Kshatria]

so far the story is quiterelatable, and NO IDIOTS (except those guys)
no stupid kingdom, no stupid goverment agency, just straight common sense
and yet it's only at 6.8 rating??

wtf? is it because lack of boobies??
i know other with stupid story but lotsa boobas, it got at least 7 and that's stupid imho

 

[PLaci1982]

YOU'RE HENCEFORTH BARRED FROM APPLYING FOR A LICENSE EXAM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

YES!

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WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT?!

Surprise, surprise, those who are in charge of dungeon related matters, are the one who are in charge of dungeon related matters.

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[Wolvenworks]

YES!

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Surprise, surprise, those who are in charge of dungeon related matters, are the one who are in charge of dungeon related matters.

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I just hope that redhead actually gets punished, and not a slap on the wrist because some bigwig insists it’s not a problem, and that their kids are more important than you, the scrub civil servant or nobody commoner student. Or that redhead escaped the gaol to become a PK murderer.

Like, you know there’s a high chance we’ll see mr dumbfuck again…

 

[Blacktart]

I just hope that redhead actually gets punished, and not a slap on the wrist because some bigwig insists it’s not a problem, and that their kids are more important than you, the scrub civil servant or nobody commoner student. Or that redhead escaped the gaol to become a PK murderer.

Like, you know there’s a high chance we’ll see mr dumbfuck again…

He probably won't due to dungeons being a can get killed type of job so they either rank up or die due to their arrogance.

 

[Jstar338]

I just hope that redhead actually gets punished, and not a slap on the wrist because some bigwig insists it’s not a problem, and that their kids are more important than you, the scrub civil servant or nobody commoner student. Or that redhead escaped the gaol to become a PK murderer.

Like, you know there’s a high chance we’ll see mr dumbfuck again…

I think it would probably go to like a federal offense to illegally enter the dungeons after being barred entry

 

[Phantaminium]

so far the story is quiterelatable, and NO IDIOTS (except those guys)
no stupid kingdom, no stupid goverment agency, just straight common sense
and yet it's only at 6.8 rating??

wtf? is it because lack of boobies??
i know other with stupid story but lotsa boobas, it got at least 7 and that's stupid imho

It is shockingly unoriginal and spectacularly derivative. This is what chatgpt produces when you ask it to produce stock standard dungeonsekai, the art is also so so, the action is quite mid and the pacing is passable.

It really doesn’t use the webtoon format well and very much feels like a manga in it’s paneling. There’s been like 2 drops of character development and it could not wait to drop it’s complete load on MC being the strongest, bestest ever. Like any story worth it’s salt would at least build up to a crisis moment making them unleash their full arsenal.

This is in the first dungeon they went in to to get their license to then explore dungeons, they happened to stumble upon a monster that requires the strongest currently active dungeoneers to take on. Any of these aspects can be fine but there has been no build up of any world building outside of the fact there’s some system to dungeoneering and it started recently.

It might not have used the usual tropes or cliches that other series go too (except it did with the red haired guy and something going wrong in one of the easiest dungeons apparently) at least the ones you mentioned but it also has set up little to nothing of the world so it’s can’t really be judged in many aspects.

From what’s been displayed so far there is no reason to believe this won’t rise above being power fantasy, harem, formulaic as fuck, boring MC trash. And there’s nothing wrong with that. lets not pretend this is a strong 5 to weak 6 at best though.

 

[Kshatria]

It is shockingly unoriginal and spectacularly derivative. This is what chatgpt produces when you ask it to produce stock standard dungeonsekai, the art is also so so, the action is quite mid and the pacing is passable.

It really doesn’t use the webtoon format well and very much feels like a manga in it’s paneling. There’s been like 2 drops of character development and it could not wait to drop it’s complete load on MC being the strongest, bestest ever. Like any story worth it’s salt would at least build up to a crisis moment making them unleash their full arsenal.

This is in the first dungeon they went in to to get their license to then explore dungeons, they happened to stumble upon a monster that requires the strongest currently active dungeoneers to take on. Any of these aspects can be fine but there has been no build up of any world building outside of the fact there’s some system to dungeoneering and it started recently.

It might not have used the usual tropes or cliches that other series go too (except it did with the red haired guy and something going wrong in one of the easiest dungeons apparently) at least the ones you mentioned but it also has set up little to nothing of the world so it’s can’t really be judged in many aspects.

From what’s been displayed so far there is no reason to believe this won’t rise above being power fantasy, harem, formulaic as fuck, boring MC trash. And there’s nothing wrong with that. lets not pretend this is a strong 5 to weak 6 at best though.

unoriginal? isekai genre IS unoriginal, what do you even mean by that? why would you even read them when you should know, that most of them ARE unoriginal. it's been like that for years now

look, that's what i feel, that's all to it. if you disagree then fine by me. but try to read the other manga, by hundreds of them, you'll see what i mean. it's like the only one with sane NPC, the guild the bystander, they're pretty much just do their own lives and had their own minds, like a normal person would. when you get fuc*ed over, you would resent them, unlike other manga where the bully just do whatever he wants and nobody bat's an eye

for example, in which manga where a rare breed of hunter with actual skill, but they also banned him because his lack of morality? in other manga, the guild would just recruited him on the spot and then protected him at all costs. and yet they're blind to mc, even when his skill is far better than those bulies! that's when most author just make some random bs to hurt mc for no reason and to make the plot goes forward. now that's BS... and for all i know, boobies works wonder to boost your sale/rating even with that unoriginal story. that's just from what i've observed when reading though (but ugly character design still get no boost either way, ugly is ugly, no matter how many bewbs they threw at you)

 

[Phantaminium]

unoriginal? isekai genre IS unoriginal, what do you even mean by that? why would you even read them when you should know, that most of them ARE unoriginal. it's been like that for years now

Unoriginal, yet we get original premises in the genre every now and then and sometimes those are executed well. This could almost have some originality in that it has combined dungeons with isekai but dungeons is also rote by now. I don’t take this as a point against it until I see how it’s executed. I described above what I think about that.

look, that's what i feel, that's all to it. if you disagree then fine by me. but try to read the other manga, by hundreds of them, you'll see what i mean. it's like the only one with sane NPC, the guild the bystander, they're pretty much just do their own lives and had their own minds, like a normal person would. when you get fuc*ed over, you would resent them, unlike other manga where the bully just do whatever he wants and nobody bat's an eye

Depending on the circumstances the bully getting away with killing others or being aggressive if it can be justified in universe. This series problem with it’s bullies are that firstly he is a derivative of a sterotype that appears to often in manga/hwa/hua which makes him uninteresting. He gets too much screen time whilst offering little to nothing to the story and remains incredibly deluded throughout the his entire time in the story so far. He hadn’t crossed the line until aggroing the rest of the orcs or ogres or whatever but the author pushed it to an extreme till finally having someone in verse humble him. Piss poor writing.

for example, in which manga where a rare breed of hunter with actual skill, but they also banned him because his lack of morality? in other manga, the guild would just recruited him on the spot and then protected him at all costs. and yet they're blind to mc, even when his skill is far better than those bulies! that's when most author just make some random bs to hurt mc for no reason and to make the plot goes forward. now that's BS...

I don’t know what it is about this particular story that has you presenting very basic story beats and story telling like it’s something inspired. There has been nothing original at any point so far, I have seen very similar setups in different series countless times where you have an MC that appears to have some kind of shortcoming in the power system but is secretly the strongest. That’s why Eminence in Shadow is so popular, it feeds into those tropes and also highlights how over the top the whole approach is.

and for all i know, boobies works wonder to boost your sale/rating even with that unoriginal story. that's just from what i've observed when reading though (but ugly character design still get no boost either way, ugly is ugly, no matter how many bewbs they threw at you)

Good art, action, world building, character designs or an interesting power system can push up my rating and yes sometimes even boobies depending on what the series is going for. This series isn’t going for boobies (yet) though I am sure there will be a harem thirsting after MC who will be stoic towards them. I’m judging it as a Dungeonsekai which is sub par or below average in all aspects. I really struggle to see what about this series makes it your hill to die on.

 

[Kshatria]

Unoriginal, yet we get original premises in the genre every now and then and sometimes those are executed well. This could almost have some originality in that it has combined dungeons with isekai but dungeons is also rote by now. I don’t take this as a point against it until I see how it’s executed. I described above what I think about that.


Depending on the circumstances the bully getting away with killing others or being aggressive if it can be justified in universe. This series problem with it’s bullies are that firstly he is a derivative of a sterotype that appears to often in manga/hwa/hua which makes him uninteresting. He gets too much screen time whilst offering little to nothing to the story and remains incredibly deluded throughout the his entire time in the story so far. He hadn’t crossed the line until aggroing the rest of the orcs or ogres or whatever but the author pushed it to an extreme till finally having someone in verse humble him. Piss poor writing.


I don’t know what it is about this particular story that has you presenting very basic story beats and story telling like it’s something inspired. There has been nothing original at any point so far, I have seen very similar setups in different series countless times where you have an MC that appears to have some kind of shortcoming in the power system but is secretly the strongest. That’s why Eminence in Shadow is so popular, it feeds into those tropes and also highlights how over the top the whole approach is.


Good art, action, world building, character designs or an interesting power system can push up my rating and yes sometimes even boobies depending on what the series is going for. This series isn’t going for boobies (yet) though I am sure there will be a harem thirsting after MC who will be stoic towards them. I’m judging it as a Dungeonsekai which is sub par or below average in all aspects. I really struggle to see what about this series makes it your hill to die on.

umm what?
i dont particualrly like it or not, it's just rather different than most "unoriginal" overused genre

say what you want, i still stand by mine. what i dont get it was, why would you rant so much just for my short review?

 

[Phantaminium]

umm what?
i dont particualrly like it or not, it's just rather different than most "unoriginal" overused genre

say what you want, i still stand by mine. what i dont get it was, why would you rant so much just for my short review?

Because I disagree with you, to the point I'd explain it in explicit detail why. Saying:

say what you want, i still stand by mine.

is a dogshit argument if you're going to start by saying this should be higher rated, I think this should be lower rated and I justified why above.

what i dont get it was, why would you rant so much just for my short review?

because when discussing the quality of a series you should be able to back up your arguments. Saying people low rated it because no tits is an abysmal argument, there are countless series with tits with lower ratings than this and vice versa. It's no mystery to anyone reading this what the quality is. People who don't like isekai or any of it's spinoffs would've left after the first chapter or never tried it from the tags alone and never rated it. It's got middling ratings from people who knew what to expect anyway.

If you're gonna argue a series should be received better at least hold to your arguments, make better arguments or counter my arguments. You've not even addressed my counterpoints to the series so far and just said "I'll stand by mine". Sure.

 

[Kshatria]

Because I disagree with you, to the point I'd explain it in explicit detail why. Saying:

is a dogshit argument if you're going to start by saying this should be higher rated, I think this should be lower rated and I justified why above.

because when discussing the quality of a series you should be able to back up your arguments. Saying people low rated it because no tits is an abysmal argument, there are countless series with tits with lower ratings than this and vice versa. It's no mystery to anyone reading this what the quality is. People who don't like isekai or any of it's spinoffs would've left after the first chapter or never tried it from the tags alone and never rated it. It's got middling ratings from people who knew what to expect anyway.

If you're gonna argue a series should be received better at least hold to your arguments, make better arguments or counter my arguments. You've not even addressed my counterpoints to the series so far and just said "I'll stand by mine". Sure.

the F is wrong with you? you seriously want's to argue for a manga??

ok i'll detailed what you've been saying
1 it's UNORIGINAL, of course they are. F they're ALL UNORIGINAL!!!
2 not in webtoon format? so what? i'm NOT reading in a webtoon, this is MANGADEX
3 no world building? how many chapter you need for world building? it's also clearly stated it's only a year or so the dungeon "created". they also make sure the newbie is safe with upper rank "bodyguard". if that's not a world building, then idk what is? a real world would do the same, not gonna let those newbie DIED in training dungeon, especially in japan. no sane guild would do that!!
4 the red haired asshole and the suddenly strong monster are also UNORIGINAL, all manga is like that (at least in this genre)
5 bullies is justified to DIE, of course i agree. but again, this is a japanese manga, they're all SPARED by mc, this is also UNORIGINAL. all manga is like that (only few exception does it, like revenge manga)
6 mc is bland, did you even read bro? japanese mc manga IS NAIVE. like i've said before, how many manga did you ever read anyway? it's been like that forever! again except in a few mainstream manga (ie popular)
7 and then you keep saying stuff which i DONT CARE!!!

what i've been saying all along is, this is unoriginal like always, BUT with CAPITAL BUT. the people (NPC) are NOT STUPID!! this should get a plus, THIS IS ORIGINAL, how many manga with this genre and the NPC are just NPC, doing the same thing over and over again?? a normal logic, a COMMON SENSE is rare in manga, somehow it's also rare in REAL LIFE isnt it

and you keep arguing and arguing for a simple rating, you know you look stupid imho. who cares about rating, i just feels like it need to get BETTER rating, that's all. i dont even FORCE you to to increase it

and that's your "argument"? that's just nitpicked every little stuff!! i dont even want's to argue and you just insult me now, dogshit argument? F that, you dont even know what i'm talking about in the first place!!

disagree is fine by me, you could have just asked, but no!! you just said whatever you want without actually addressing what i'm even saying and then just saying dogshit argument? really a dogshit?? you're literally insult me bro that's a BIG NO NO!!!

 

[randoms986]

So my opinion on this has changed since last chapter. I think I got burned out from reading so much isekai/OP MC plot.

Firstly, the attitude of the MC and his girlfriend (pretty much) still kinda puts me off. But I like how there was immediate consequences for the actions of red head. Also, I guess like how MC and his girlfriend still get shit done without having to hide their power completely.

I dunno why the art feels weird to me, I have read stories with much worse art than this but something about it keeps iritating me. Oh well, gotta keep reading.

 

[Eeliejun]

so far the story is quiterelatable, and NO IDIOTS (except those guys)
no stupid kingdom, no stupid goverment agency, just straight common sense
and yet it's only at 6.8 rating??

wtf? is it because lack of boobies??
i know other with stupid story but lotsa boobas, it got at least 7 and that's stupid imho

no idiots? My dude. The red headed guy was an idiot and had two others with him cheering him on. The whole thing of them going in using skills and powers that no one heard of or seen and being so skilled that they would be in the top of the country maybe even the world and no government wants to talk to them?

Like that would be like a person saving a country in a war with a gun no one ever saw and the whole world just saying oh well nothing strange about that.

 

[Kshatria]

no idiots? My dude. The red headed guy was an idiot and had two others with him cheering him on. The whole thing of them going in using skills and powers that no one heard of or seen and being so skilled that they would be in the top of the country maybe even the world and no government wants to talk to them?

Like that would be like a person saving a country in a war with a gun no one ever saw and the whole world just saying oh well nothing strange about that.

i did say except those guys.... which mean those idiots (the red haired guys).

should i literally explain everything?

 

[CoolOtamegane]

GODDAMIT, LET THEY GO HOME !!!!
WHAT'S NEXT? ANOTHER DUNGEON BREAK?