Isekai no Binbou Nouka ni Tensei Shita Node, Renga wo Tsukutte Shiro wo Tateru Koto ni Shimashita - Vol. 2 Ch. 8.2

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Ugggh, this chapter triggered me so bad. I'd like them to see what one of those old roman cobblestone roads looks like after a year of thousands of trucks and cars drive over it each day.
While they probably wouldn't last a 1000 years due to car traffic, they'd still last longer than modern roads. Modern roads aren't built for durability, they're built for ease/speed of construction and repair, as well as smoothness of the surface (which matters a lot more to modern vehicles due to the speed they travel).

That all said: Cars don't really matter, at least they don't cause much more wear and tear than wagons/carts did (maybe less, actually, due to rubber tires). Trucks are what fuck up roads.
 
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While they probably wouldn't last a 1000 years due to car traffic, they'd still last longer than modern roads. Modern roads aren't built for durability, they're built for ease/speed of construction and repair, as well as smoothness of the surface (which matters a lot more to modern vehicles due to the speed they travel).

That all said: Cars don't really matter, at least they don't cause much more wear and tear than wagons/carts did (maybe less, actually, due to rubber tires). Trucks are what fuck up roads.
Yes and no, it all depends on what they are used for, roman roads would outlast modern roads if it was with foot traffic and horse and carriage, but not modern industrial vehicles or even cars, however modern roads do have one fatal flaw, and that's the fact they are more susceptible to overgrowth and plants literally growing through them, which roman roads didn't due to how they were constructed (though it could still happen if done wrong).

Basically for foot traffic sure, roman roads can last centuries longer than modern ones, but if a motor vehicle was used on them they'd be mostly destroyed within a month as they weren't designed for such heavy weight.
Also wagons and carts would not be a good example of such either, the main thing to keep in mind is the weight of the vehicle itself, wagons and carts weren't going to be extremely common weight wise on roman roads at the degree they are in modern times, where most vehicles weigh at least a ton, much less things like cargo trucks.
 
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How convenient.
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What really messes up a road isn't just the weight and frequency of the vehicles and plant growth.

It's also the land under the substrate and the weather.

Where I live in Texas, there's a lot of soft soil because a good deal of this land used to be the seafloor of a massive inland sea. Great for growing things, but terrible if you want something to have a solid foundation. It's why pier-and-beam foundations are so common in older houses here - it's easy to repair areas that sag from the foundation settling just by using hydraulic jacks and inserting taller supports.

And with the sort of rain we get here? Heh. News flash, people. Texas is most empathically NOT DRY. We may have our droughts, but in the wetter years? We get as much or even more rainfall per year than London does. (If you want "dry", go up to the panhandle, near Oklahoma. That's shit is dry.)

Soft soil plus torrential rains means sometimes our roads wind up looking like a horribly abused road in Pittsburg or Milwaukee. Even roads made of reinforced concrete wind up falling apart in a year or two because the engineers didn't properly prepare the substrate to handle this soil combined with our weather.

Here's an example of a concrete road in my town that's not even five years old... All this carnage is caused by the soil under the substrate shifting and eroding.
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I could of picked up on Baito being a bully and also someone that is lazy and passes work down to others because of his "First born" arrogance. Now Karl seems like he would be a great addition to the Ars Corporation
 
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What really messes up a road isn't just the weight and frequency of the vehicles and plant growth.

It's also the land under the substrate and the weather.

Where I live in Texas, there's a lot of soft soil because a good deal of this land used to be the seafloor of a massive inland sea. Great for growing things, but terrible if you want something to have a solid foundation. It's why pier-and-beam foundations are so common in older houses here - it's easy to repair areas that sag from the foundation settling just by using hydraulic jacks and inserting taller supports.

And with the sort of rain we get here? Heh. News flash, people. Texas is most empathically NOT DRY. We may have our droughts, but in the wetter years? We get as much or even more rainfall per year than London does. (If you want "dry", go up to the panhandle, near Oklahoma. That's shit is dry.)

Soft soil plus torrential rains means sometimes our roads wind up looking like a horribly abused road in Pittsburg or Milwaukee. Even roads made of reinforced concrete wind up falling apart in a year or two because the engineers didn't properly prepare the substrate to handle this soil combined with our weather.

Here's an example of a concrete road in my town that's not even five years old... All this carnage is caused by the soil under the substrate shifting and eroding.
My main annoyance about the comparison was this point, you can't compare apples and oranges. You can't build a road in Alaska and expect it to be the same as building one in Arizona, there are too many differences. If you build the road on crap soil or permafrost, it won't be a long lasting road, ask anyone who has had to deal with peat bogs.

Another difference is the use of salt on roads, you can see what it does to cars by looking at how cars age depending on where you live, that salt also does damage to the road surface.

All that being said, some of the engineering that went into those roman roads does alleviate some of the variations in soil, just need to spend millions of dollars on digging deeper and putting back better material. If anyone knows where to get a good supply of slaves like the romans had, and we could completely shut down the worked on roads, I am sure we could build the roads to a better standard like those old roads.
 
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So, Baito will become a royal knight and Karl will become a court magician. That's cool.
 
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I love how his brother is just like

"Wow cool castle city you built bro where's the door"

Ah, siblings. If your sibling did it it can't be that impressive, also here's what's wrong with it XD
 

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