Isekai no Binbou Nouka ni Tensei Shita Node, Renga wo Tsukutte Shiro wo Tateru Koto ni Shimashita - Vol. 3 Ch. 10.2

[ForTheJerusalem]

Taxation is not theft. It's armed robbery.

 

[Doomer]

surprise surprise the corrupt nobles sees someone with more stuff then them so they try to steal it, MC don't bend the knee, take down that lord and take his place. you are probably more worth it them him to the high nobility anyway

 

[Meridis]

Even in modern times that is true and it is not only the government. HOA is notorious in penalizing unauthorized construction even if it is just repainting the house.

ANY position of authority that isn't met with constant oversight naturally attracts those who would abuse it. That's why you don't leave priests alone with children.

 

[Romisterie]

Taxation is not theft. It's armed robbery.

What is theft is Inflation . They print money hence removing the value of the current money.

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

What is theft is Inflation . They print money hence removing the value of the current money.

Inflation is less theft and more like "Haha government is full of dumb people and shouldn't be allowed to do 99% of things it's allowed to do"

 

[Solipsist]

Taxation is not theft. It's armed robbery.

Tbf, it's more akin to breaking the social contract.
Gathering a collective fund from every citizen to properly fund public utilities and services is fair, and provides a way for society to function.
However, I'm sure we all know how much that fund is used to "betterment of society"......

Even in modern times that is true and it is not only the government. HOA is notorious in penalizing unauthorized construction even if it is just repainting the house.

Just saying, that comparison is like having an HOA in some fuck-you remote region of the country, where basically nothing exists, and people are for the most part self-sufficient to the point that they don't even really know the concept of money.
Hint: There is no HOA in that sort of a place. There is no oversight..

That being said, I do agree with ya'll that building a bloody fortress overnight and exporting luxury magical beasts will cause anyone to raise an eyebrow and wonder wtf is going on over there.

Although, I don't understand how come some random shmuck is annexing the land. Shouldn't the lord of the land...Already...LORD the land? Already "own" it? Why would there be a need to declare: "this mine"? So it is it some random noble outta nowhere that got greedy?
There's a difference between "people are afraid of the MC so they act rashly", and: "doing stupid shit"...

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Tbf, it's more akin to breaking the social contract.
Gathering a collective fund from every citizen to properly fund public utilities and services is fair, and provides a way for society to function.
However, I'm sure we all know how much that fund is used to "betterment of society"......

Imagine if someone were to enter your home and say that you broke a contract, when you ask what contract they say the contract that they own you. But you didn't sign anything! But they don't care and what they are doing is legal. Oh and ignoring that the government can be cut to almost nothing, therefore "betterment of society" will not be a valid excuse until they are almost gone.

 

[riflow]

How very noble like to only swoop in to claim land after it's already been developed...

Hopefully they can come to some kind of compromise

 

[BGHofoen]

Sounds to me like the Noble set him up. Gave him a writ allowing him to expand the frontier then seize it when all the hard work is done and the land is profitable.

 

[jonsmth]

If only there weren't any giant boars. He wouldn't have had to build such large walls.

Tbf, it's more akin to breaking the social contract.
Gathering a collective fund from every citizen to properly fund public utilities and services is fair, and provides a way for society to function.
However, I'm sure we all know how much that fund is used to "betterment of society"......

In this case, it's probably more similar to a protection racket.

 

[Solipsist]

Imagine if someone were to enter your home and say that you broke a contract, when you ask what contract they say the contract that they own you. But you didn't sign anything! But they don't care and what they are doing is legal. Oh and ignoring that the government can be cut to almost nothing, therefore "betterment of society" will not be a valid excuse until they are almost gone.

???
You mean in medieval times? Yeah, sure. They weren't doing much governing as they were "lording".
Though, I know jackshit about actual history, so I could always be wrong, but I take it we both have the same impression on history.
In modern times, nobody comes into your house and does jackshit. I was replying to your comment in the most general sense of the phrase: "taxation is theft".
It's theft when the social contract is broken, and I do agree it is broken mostly by the gov body, in a lot of times in history. Unless you're European, in certain countries, which seem to have their shit together.

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

???
You mean in medieval times? Yeah, sure. They weren't doing much governing as they were "lording".
Though, I know jackshit about actual history, so I could always be wrong, but I take it we both have the same impression on history.
In modern times, nobody comes into your house and does jackshit. I was replying to your comment in the most general sense of the phrase: "taxation is theft".
It's theft when the social contract is broken, and I do agree it is broken mostly by the gov body, in a lot of times in history. Unless you're European, in certain countries, which seem to have their shit together.

"Tbf, it's more akin to breaking the social contract." you never signed a social contract. The government can break into your home if you don't pay them. Also europe clearly doesn't have their shit together.

 

[Solipsist]

"Tbf, it's more akin to breaking the social contract." you never signed a social contract. The government can break into your home if you don't pay them. Also europe clearly doesn't have their shit together.

Aiight cringe boi, the social contract is an analogy to "You work for society, society should also work for you."
And your statements are an egregious exaggeration of tax evasion.

As for Europe, look into Norway in particular.
Like many European countries, there are public universities where admission is free of charge, covered by tax.
Also, benefits to new parents, extremely low healthcare costs, high salaries (usually offsetted by high cost of living as well)
A shitty TLDR: https://vittana.org/18-biggest-pros-and-cons-of-living-in-norway

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Aiight cringe boi, the social contract is an analogy to "You work for society, society should also work for you."
And your statements are an egregious exaggeration of tax evasion.

As for Europe, look into Norway in particular.
Like many European countries, there are public universities where admission is free of charge, covered by tax.
Also, benefits to new parents, extremely low healthcare costs, high salaries (usually offsetted by high cost of living as well)
A shitty TLDR: https://vittana.org/18-biggest-pros-and-cons-of-living-in-norway

Universities which are free??? Low healthcare costs??? Benefits to new parents??? Wow if only it was actually free and not taken by force from other people! So cool mister socialist, now go learn some economics.

 

[Solipsist]

Universities which are free??? Low healthcare costs??? Benefits to new parents??? Wow if only it was actually free and not taken by force from other people! So cool mister socialist, now go learn some economics.

"Free", in terms of who's actually benefiting from them. If you're a young adult, and you get "free admission to university", you later on can enroll in a high-paying job where you get your turn to pay for the next generation's education.

God forbid you'll invest in the young workforce by directing the public funds towards encouraging people to gain higher education, support all types of citizens with roughly equal healthcare opportunities, and actually encourage childbirth with the proper support of the public funds and law making.

Jesus christ you're a loony.
P.S: Let me guess, you're one of those who're against student-loan forgiveness?

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

"Free", in terms of who's actually benefiting from them. If you're a young adult, and you get "free admission to university", you later on can enroll in a high-paying job where you get your turn to pay for the next generation's education.

God forbid you'll invest in the young workforce by directing the public funds towards encouraging people to gain higher education, support all types of citizens with roughly equal healthcare opportunities, and actually encourage childbirth with the proper support of the public funds and law making.

Jesus christ you're a loony.
P.S: Let me guess, you're one of those who're against student-loan forgiveness?

How about instead of stealing cash we either, i don't know, make charity a choice or let them take loans? And not US style loans, because fun fact, the reason why US has such high student loans?(other that people going to useless degrees like gender studies) The government will vouch for you! So the university can just jack up the price, because either way they are fine. Oh and this is the last time i even try to talk to you, socialists will never learn.

 

[Xalphire]

GREEDY CUNTS 🤡

 

[Strela]

Lmao get gnomed, of course they would do this. They gave away permit way too easily to a commoner kid, no way they would let him be when he could made an impressive fortification like that.

On the bright side, merchant bros is about to befriend a king in the making soon.

 

[Remy88Lebeau]

I know dang well that a-hole isn't trying to take the land because of the wall and the prosperity that was happening so far while he didn't try to do anything with the land

 

[Sumasuun]

Lol. Finally. Been expecting this since I saw the tax system then employ in this world