Jukai - Ch. 9 - Record Nine: The Shinshō Sect

[MangaDex]

 

[OWMWO]

Losing head over some blind faith.

 

[Skullkrusher]

We called them false angels. You came to me asking how my faith survived the Day of Judgement. I will tell you a secret. When the stars fell, when the seas boiled and the earth burned, my faith didn’t die. That is when I began to believe.

God was real, and he hated us.

 

[Hitspark]

So like....what is she ACTUALLY doing in that cult? Because the dude running the cult didn't seem to actually believe because he kept his head. Like, she was fusing her spirit to all of her followers, but what did that actually accomplish? What was she actually doing?

 

[Skullkrusher]

So like....what is she ACTUALLY doing in that cult? Because the dude running the cult didn't seem to actually believe because he kept his head. Like, she was fusing her spirit to all of her followers, but what did that actually accomplish? What was she actually doing?

The dude running the cult died on page 20. Presumably the daemon was exploiting the cultist's need for faith and eating them slowly (maybe that wasn't really cancer that did in the mom...), basically treating the cult like a minifridge. By beheading the statue, it triggered the backup "haha gotcha" and it ate the nonbeliever too. Then it moved on and stocked a new minifridge.

 

[Mekanike]

So like....what is she ACTUALLY doing in that cult? Because the dude running the cult didn't seem to actually believe because he kept his head. Like, she was fusing her spirit to all of her followers, but what did that actually accomplish? What was she actually doing?

i think the point is that the mother is supposed to be not really understandable. its obviously malevolent and getting something out of the cult but the horror comes in when it revealed theres another sect and that its propagated itself, probably repeating what happened at that sect all over japan. there is no explanation and what it is/what it gets out of it/how its doing it because thats not the point of the short story

but everyone in the shinsho sect did die, either because they were actual believers, saw the heads come off and became a believer or saw the statue move and became a believer then

 

[Hitspark]

The dude running the cult died on page 20. Presumably the daemon was exploiting the cultist's need for faith and eating them slowly (maybe that wasn't really cancer that did in the mom...), basically treating the cult like a minifridge. By beheading the statue, it triggered the backup "haha gotcha" and it ate the nonbeliever too. Then it moved on and stocked a new minifridge.

Ah I thought that was the non-believer guy, I probably read too fast and skimmed past it. That would make sense though, yeah.

i think the point is that the mother is supposed to be not really understandable. its obviously malevolent and getting something out of the cult but the horror comes in when it revealed theres another sect and that its propagated itself, probably repeating what happened at that sect all over japan. there is no explanation and what it is/what it gets out of it/how its doing it because thats not the point of the short story

but everyone in the shinsho sect did die, either because they were actual believers, saw the heads come off and became a believer or saw the statue move and became a believer then

My brain likes having those details so much that I have a hard time understanding that kind of horror. Like I get the existential dread of it all, but it's just not crossing the wires. It's a fun story, regardless tho.

 

[ReGats]

Well, seeing is believing, and they did say true believers share the cult figure's injuries.

Hilarious that the cult leader was 2nd-to-last to go. He didn't buy his own BS until God proved otherwise.

 

[fight2live]

hey, at least that wasn't the Aum Shinrikyo

 

[Arexty]

The MC's motivation to seek vengeance for the exploitation of his ill mother hit me hard as the pursuit of faith healing as a substitute for science-based medicine is something I've personally seen. Thanks for the TL.

Well, seeing is believing, and they did say true believers share the cult figure's injuries.

Hilarious that the cult leader was 2nd-to-last to go. He didn't buy his own BS until God proved otherwise.

This story and the question of whether deities are born from religion or religion birth Gods, is a bit unique in that answer posed seems like a sort of self-propagating Tulpa which is very terrifying thought.

hey, at least that wasn't the Aum Shinrikyo

Or Scientology.

 

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[Mekanike]

My brain likes having those details so much that I have a hard time understanding that kind of horror. Like I get the existential dread of it all, but it's just not crossing the wires. It's a fun story, regardless tho.

yeah i get that, i just dont think this manga is the type to explain itself. I like it because the people in these stories are completely normal and the horror is utterly alien without explanation like a freak accident. It's kind of like one of those car accidents you hear about on the news that shouldnt have happened but did anyway, except the freak accident is another sentient thing thats doing this to you. Like yeah it would be really fucked up if one guy killed another guy with a rock on the moon

 

[looc64]

Well, seeing is believing, and they did say true believers share the cult figure's injuries.

Hilarious that the cult leader was 2nd-to-last to go. He didn't buy his own BS until God proved otherwise.

It's interesting because looking at the second cult he was probably in some way the most affected by the statue.

Cuz like, normally you'd expect the founders of two unrelated cults to choose completely different central motifs. Getting two of them to pick a statue of you specifically and call you by the right name seems like a fairly large hurdle.

 

[SMAXZO]

The Cult Leader before his head leaves his body: ....I knew I shouldn't bought the statue off the back of a shady looking van...