Kaisha to Shiseikatsu -On to Off- - Vol. 1 Ch. 4

[LilithRaven]

The longer form really does make the story flow better. I mean, it's still not the greatest story in the world, but it's so much better now.

can we not do this shit? what’s wrong if this ain’t masterpiece levels of story telling?? like what did you expect from such a simple premise?

 

[jonnywarlock]

can we not do this shit? what’s wrong if this ain’t masterpiece levels of story telling?? like what did you expect from such a simple premise?

Oh man, I'm sorry for... Saying that it's better now? 🤨

 

[LilithRaven]

This chapter missed the mark for me, likely because a lot of it was recycled from the original. The lack of dynamicism in the character poses makes the dialogue feel...stilted

Hopefully this is the last time we'll see it

then set your expectation appropriately, way in hell did you even read the oroginal is this version story is such “stale”?

 

[Hicleric]

then set your expectation appropriately, way in hell did you even read the oroginal is this version story is such “stale”?

I'm really hoping you're just having a bad day, m'dear. One would think (assuming the grammar parses correctly... ) that you're criticizing me and Mr. Warlock above for, say, having an opinion.

 

[Valhalla_101]

What, his voice hasn't broken yet? Or does he purposely go falsetto when he's crossdressing?

There’s some people who are able to make their voice sound like a girl through voice training…or something like that. Maybe that’s what’s going on

 

[Andigo]

What, his voice hasn't broken yet? Or does he purposely go falsetto when he's crossdressing?

As already answered, voice training. It depends on the person. It's interesting! Usually falsetto isn't ideal, the aim is to extend or shift the speaking voice which can be just below falsetto or push falsetto to even higher pitch. Male MC is in his twenties, and doesn't look testosterone-packed, so even if he started late he's got it fairly easy.

Example exercises or a demo of where you're at is to repeat very open sounds like "fire from heat, heat from fire" or meows with your entire speaking voice, and adjust pitch up from your usual range to areas just below falsetto. (The inverse is going lower by carefully grinding your bass low notes.) It overlaps with singing voice training and post-stroke voice therapy, to the point it can be covered by healthcare/insurance for trans people.

The main issue is women tend to have tighter vocal pathways, so to increase the frequency and sound femme you need to make some muscles stronger to narrow the airway and breath easier. Then affectations and mannerisms. Passing as femme 9/10 times is usually doable but takes lots of exercise (and enough women sound masc that that's plenty), passing 10/10 or as seductively husky isn't impossible, while sounding perfectly sybillant with a late start takes a tremendous amount of time and sustained effort and lots of mtf coaches arguably don't get there themselves.

As you imply, testosterone "breaking" a voice is like damage in this context, as seen in singers who don't keep practicing high notes through male puberty and lose their soprano range. As seen with voiceactors, femme to masc is easier (and mostly automatic after taking testosterone).

 

[Solysp]

Also Japanese is a very gendered language, men and women use different words for the same concept and presumably one is inclined to subconsciously respect that. So even if a cute lady sounds a bit husky if she's using feminine coded speech I would guess most folks would take that at face value.

Like, Hanlon's Razor, what is more likely; this cutely dressed girl has a deeper than average voice or she's actually an incredibly talented crossdresser?

 

[beep_repair]

Minor quibble: leather spikes are smooth and rounded at the tip to prevent this kind of thing. If one snagged a seam, sure, it could tear, but they're not little razor blades (unless you specifically seek that out or sharpen them yourself, and she wouldn't).

Agree that the character poses and movement panels are very stiff, but it isn't a problem for me. They both look like dolls, which fits the theme. And the art is lovely.

 

[lightingcloud]

"How to dress like a punk for 800-fucking dollars." Wherever punk fashion had a shred of class consciousness, it ain't here. Then again the Ramones were a boy band. I guess I'm rankled because I was a thrift store punk, not a mall punk.

Person, this story is set in Japan. They can dress like nazi without a shred of "idealistic" connection. This is just fashion, not a inch of the history of punk.

 

[outinthegardener]

Person, this story is set in Japan. They can dress like nazi without a shred of "idealistic" connection. This is just fashion, not a inch of the history of punk.

Just because it's ported to Japan, does not mean they aren't aware of its meanings in the West. Japanese people aren't an ignorant isolated tribe, they have the internet. Assuming she is completely unaware of the history of punk: Is ignorance bliss? I say no, perhaps you feel different. Meaning carries even if you're ignorant about it.

Fashion is a visual language, and it's built of signifiers and what is signified. You can't borrow a language without referring to its origins. Even if you want to wear a fashion and claim it's completely severed from the history of that fashion, that won't prevent the history from being communicated. Like your nazi example (why does everyone go to the nazis?) you should expect people to think about nazis, not think about "culturally distinct post-nazi fashion decision." And if you're miffed that people keep asking if you like nazis, maybe don't dress like that.

All that said, let's say her fashion sub-culture wasn't punk but some other expensive style. One could still critique stylistic expense in the consumer age and lack of class consciousness. But it's particularly ironic when the fashion they chose was about rejecting the polished mainstream for a diy/lo-fi/proletariat esthetic. And that's the point of my original comment: Dressing like a punk by buying expensive designer clothing is funny.
https://images.app.goo.gl/BpVXCi9NMLvjuxNq5

 

[lightingcloud]

Just because it's ported to Japan, does not mean they aren't aware of its meanings in the West. Japanese people aren't an ignorant isolated tribe, they have the internet. Assuming she is completely unaware of the history of punk: Is ignorance bliss? I say no, perhaps you feel different. Meaning carries even if you're ignorant about it.

Fashion is a visual language, and it's built of signifiers and what is signified. You can't borrow a language without referring to its origins. Even if you want to wear a fashion and claim it's completely severed from the history of that fashion, that won't prevent the history from being communicated. Like your nazi example (why does everyone go to the nazis?) you should expect people to think about nazis, not think about "culturally distinct post-nazi fashion decision." And if you're miffed that people keep asking if you like nazis, maybe don't dress like that.

All that said, let's say her fashion sub-culture wasn't punk but some other expensive style. One could still critique stylistic expense in the consumer age and lack of class consciousness. But it's particularly ironic when the fashion they chose was about rejecting the polished mainstream for a diy/lo-fi/proletariat esthetic. And that's the point of my original comment: Dressing like a punk by buying expensive designer clothing is funny.
https://images.app.goo.gl/BpVXCi9NMLvjuxNq5

You should study more about the ability of Japanese people to "absorb" outsiders' culture and make it their own. Then, maybe you'll understand why your rant, albeit interesting, misses the point. Until then, live a good life

 

[chaoskiz]

They changed the “cuteness overtaking apology” panel which is a bit of a bummer but rather that than no chapter

Yeah if I remember correctly, the original panel for the line was the panel of keisuke vs takumi race in first stage of initial D I think, I was surprised to see it at first but yeah I think the author have to change since serialization or else he has to pay a fuckton of money for shigeno for the reference

Edit: nvm I misremembering, the panel was the part where bunta whoop his son’s ass in his wrx, not keisuke, but still that doesn’t culminate how Surprise I am to saw that