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The real question is how he will level up based on his near inability to attack.
Kanzen Kaihi Healer no Kiseki
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-If you dodge, you don't get hit. you don't get hit, you don't need to heal. You don't need to heal, you have no problems storing MP. If you have no problems storing MP, you'll reserve it for when it's really needed. Still, going all into evasive seems pretty stupid.
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Just thought I'd add my two bobs worth. Firstly, I noticed a lot of dissension about his putting all his points into evasion. I wonder if those people took note of the first couple of panels. He was playing a game with that type of build, and apparently rather successfully. Thus, I assume that he considered it a good ploy.
As for the King, well, let's just say that he rings all sorts of alarm bells in my head. Something suspicious going on there. He summons people from another world, more than likely knowing that they are likely to be (scared/ignorant/suspicious) of the fact that they just magically appeared in this throne room. Yet he chucks the one healer in the group into gaol just for the fact that he didn't put his stat points where that King thinks they should be. Are the demons really the bad guys here?
I quite enjoyed this manga, though I have to say that just one chapter was like being teased...lol. I am looking forward to seeing more of it in the future. Thank you for your translation. I think it was more than worthwhile.
As for the King, well, let's just say that he rings all sorts of alarm bells in my head. Something suspicious going on there. He summons people from another world, more than likely knowing that they are likely to be (scared/ignorant/suspicious) of the fact that they just magically appeared in this throne room. Yet he chucks the one healer in the group into gaol just for the fact that he didn't put his stat points where that King thinks they should be. Are the demons really the bad guys here?
I quite enjoyed this manga, though I have to say that just one chapter was like being teased...lol. I am looking forward to seeing more of it in the future. Thank you for your translation. I think it was more than worthwhile.
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I like this manga, smart move mc, I hope more chapters get translated 
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Typically in most games, Support types goes Stamina - Defense - Evade
But this also depends on how the game's stat is set up
Most times people go Stamina because more HP = last longer and doesn't get one-shoted
Defense is the same, but some games have Stamina also apply to "action points" or "run meters". So people tend to just go for Stamina over Defense.
There are some support that goes for Evade, however all games have a "CAP" unlike Stamina. This means even with a max Evade, you don't really get 100 Evade, at most it's 75% Evade, so you still have 25% chance to be hit.
(Which is why some comments says Evade is stupid for MC, because they played games)
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But this manga's stat system apparently has no "CAP" and also have "LIMIT BREAK" (some games also call it "Awaken" as to increase the CAP to the next stage)
What the MC got was a no CAP and he's already Limited Breaked to the next stage.
With how the manga's stat system is set up, all the MC have to do is put all points he gets from leveling into Attack, Magic and Accuracy. If I was MC, I'll just dump it into Magic and Accuracy judging by at the end of chapter 1 he said he has a huge mana pool. (so no need for attack/ physical skills - which is another manga's plot's "Close Combat Mage" lol)
But this also depends on how the game's stat is set up
Most times people go Stamina because more HP = last longer and doesn't get one-shoted
Defense is the same, but some games have Stamina also apply to "action points" or "run meters". So people tend to just go for Stamina over Defense.
There are some support that goes for Evade, however all games have a "CAP" unlike Stamina. This means even with a max Evade, you don't really get 100 Evade, at most it's 75% Evade, so you still have 25% chance to be hit.
(Which is why some comments says Evade is stupid for MC, because they played games)
. ___ ___ ___ .
But this manga's stat system apparently has no "CAP" and also have "LIMIT BREAK" (some games also call it "Awaken" as to increase the CAP to the next stage)
What the MC got was a no CAP and he's already Limited Breaked to the next stage.
With how the manga's stat system is set up, all the MC have to do is put all points he gets from leveling into Attack, Magic and Accuracy. If I was MC, I'll just dump it into Magic and Accuracy judging by at the end of chapter 1 he said he has a huge mana pool. (so no need for attack/ physical skills - which is another manga's plot's "Close Combat Mage" lol)
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Notice some peoples thoughts on the whole Evade choice.
The MC questions the, "vizier?", about how the world's stats are considered, with the 50pt level considered something akin to a first rate master and 20-30 being an average stat level.
The choice of placing 50 into Evade was the decision based on the theory that if an a large amount of the worlds populous has something around 20-30 Accuracy, then the chances of anyone being able to hit him would be slim at best.
As for people saying "Hah with 50 Evade he still got caught"
He is a gamer not a master martial artist. He doesn't have super skillful karate that would let HIM overpower someone else, he only has 1 in Accuracy and Attack. A child is most likely stronger than him. So even the idea of some saying 'attack the king' would have been impossible.
He is, after all, just a Healer.
The MC questions the, "vizier?", about how the world's stats are considered, with the 50pt level considered something akin to a first rate master and 20-30 being an average stat level.
The choice of placing 50 into Evade was the decision based on the theory that if an a large amount of the worlds populous has something around 20-30 Accuracy, then the chances of anyone being able to hit him would be slim at best.
As for people saying "Hah with 50 Evade he still got caught"
He is a gamer not a master martial artist. He doesn't have super skillful karate that would let HIM overpower someone else, he only has 1 in Accuracy and Attack. A child is most likely stronger than him. So even the idea of some saying 'attack the king' would have been impossible.
He is, after all, just a Healer.
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@bonkleboi a lot of people overrate manga here just because they enjoyed it. they should change the ratings from 10 (masterpiece) to 10 (I LOVED THIS XD) because that's the only criteria these kids use when rating something
@bonkleboi, to be fair, i enjoyed it.
But mostly because it didn't actually start yet, so the only thing that i can say - "it didn't have anything that make me rate it low... yet". Also having actual good relationship with fellow summonned people who actually have their own head to think. As simple as it is, it's quite fresh i would say.
I didn't rate it, cause don't really know how to rate it, but i'm definitely looking forward for the next chapter. And it says quite a lot for such an overused genre.
But mostly because it didn't actually start yet, so the only thing that i can say - "it didn't have anything that make me rate it low... yet". Also having actual good relationship with fellow summonned people who actually have their own head to think. As simple as it is, it's quite fresh i would say.
I didn't rate it, cause don't really know how to rate it, but i'm definitely looking forward for the next chapter. And it says quite a lot for such an overused genre.
On a side-note - I get it that him raising an evasion supposed to become OP and unbeatable. I will not going to argue with "different world settings".
But i really hate how MC says that his decision comes from the fact that he is gamer. No! No sane gamer will think that max evasion for priest is the best. As some people already mentioned it, there is almost no game that let you reach 100% evasion, for obvious reason (game balance), so from a gamer standpoint evasion priest would be gamble, he will evade most of the attack, then get hit 1 time and die instantly. If he focussed on defense instead, then he can tank most of the attacks (on 51 level he would also probably be like a iron wall) and don't even receive any damage. And if something powerfull enough to breach 51 defense appears - he can heal himself back up making him inpregnable fortress.
Again, i get it that he said before that he just "scared to be hit". I can accept that reasoning, that actually make quite a bit of sense. But it definitely comes completely opposite of usual strategies of gamers, so his remark "because i'm gamer" is quite offensive to actual gamers. It could work in a real world without game balancing, but in the game it would be TERRIBLE build.
But i really hate how MC says that his decision comes from the fact that he is gamer. No! No sane gamer will think that max evasion for priest is the best. As some people already mentioned it, there is almost no game that let you reach 100% evasion, for obvious reason (game balance), so from a gamer standpoint evasion priest would be gamble, he will evade most of the attack, then get hit 1 time and die instantly. If he focussed on defense instead, then he can tank most of the attacks (on 51 level he would also probably be like a iron wall) and don't even receive any damage. And if something powerfull enough to breach 51 defense appears - he can heal himself back up making him inpregnable fortress.
Again, i get it that he said before that he just "scared to be hit". I can accept that reasoning, that actually make quite a bit of sense. But it definitely comes completely opposite of usual strategies of gamers, so his remark "because i'm gamer" is quite offensive to actual gamers. It could work in a real world without game balancing, but in the game it would be TERRIBLE build.
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@Serkket i rate manga based on how good i think it's done not on how much i liked it. for example, overlord is one of my favorite manga ever but i gave it a 8/10 rating as i believe it could be better, but if i rated it just based on how much i like it, i'd rate it 10/10 like most others in this site. most people just rate everything they like 10/10 without giving it any thought which makes their ratings meaningless
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By the end of the 2nd chapter, it already became crystal clear that this is the sort of story which only exists for the writer to dump his game theories on, even if logic or actual thought was required to make it work, and none of that was used.
End result is a masturbation narrative about "how cool an evasion-healer is, it's so cool you guys", while it is extremely clear it's not cool for shit, because there're too many holes that are easily observable. This sort of crap reminds me that other fantasy story, in which the MC has the power to "telekentically control weapons", which ends up being enormously redundant in the face of more direct spells. But because MC is MC, being a waste of a special little snowflake ends up gearing you up to be the star-child of fate.
End result is a masturbation narrative about "how cool an evasion-healer is, it's so cool you guys", while it is extremely clear it's not cool for shit, because there're too many holes that are easily observable. This sort of crap reminds me that other fantasy story, in which the MC has the power to "telekentically control weapons", which ends up being enormously redundant in the face of more direct spells. But because MC is MC, being a waste of a special little snowflake ends up gearing you up to be the star-child of fate.
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No harem. I’ll give it a shot!
I like that they seem to have no harem, and that for once the "true hero" isn't a dumb guy. But evasion healer? Seriously, if the guy was a true gamer, he can make a evasion healer, but he still need to put some point into defense for unavoidable attacks. One Aoe attack, and goodbye 1HP healer. The logic is also dumb: if I put everything into evasion, I am invincible as a healer... Euh, if your logic is correct, then ANY class is invincible, and everybody would play it once discovered.
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