Kare to Kanojo no Sentaku - Vol. 5 Ch. 23

[Twics]

The ship has sailed.

I guess I'm stuck here now.

 

[jeremymd]

Please apologize to every lesbian

That's how Johnny C. do! That's how Johnny C. do!

 

[jeremymd]

Please apologize to every lesbian

Oh! Maybe this is a good enough place as any to gather some insight on this matter.

And please believe me, I don't mean to offend anyone here. Just genuine curiosity.

I'm a straight guy. And as far as I know, all my straight guy friends don't think it's a big deal if girls we're currently not connected with get some experience with fellow girls for whatever reason. Say if the girl was a virgin and then she gets together with another girl, most of us would still think she remains a virgin. Is that thought offensive?

And to be clear, "virgin" here means figuratively and not necessarily the hymen getting popped.

 

[Dingo777]

Oh! Maybe this is a good enough place as any to gather some insight on this matter.

And please believe me, I don't mean to offend anyone here. Just genuine curiosity.

I'm a straight guy. And as far as I know, all my straight guy friends don't think it's a big deal if girls we're currently not connected with get some experience with fellow girls for whatever reason. Say if the girl was a virgin and then she gets together with another girl, most of us would still think she remains a virgin. Is that thought offensive?

And to be clear, "virgin" here means figuratively and not necessarily the hymen getting popped.

You’re asking this question earnestly so I’ll answer earnestly and without judgement: Yes. Even if unintentionally it’s basically saying that lesbians (or bisexual women in wlw relationships) can’t have “real” sex and that by extension their intimacy is considered “lesser”. Lesbians and bisexual women already have societal issues with having their relationship scrutinized as “fake” or “a phase” or “attention seeking”. And for some women maybe it is just testing the waters or putting on a show, but making blanket statements like “Sex doesn’t count between women” is both harmful to out lesbians as well contributes to a sense of compulsory heterosexuality seen in many gay/bisexual women who are repressing.

Source: My sister is gay so by extension I know a lot of gay women

 

[jeremymd]

You’re asking this question earnestly so I’ll answer earnestly and without judgement: Yes. Even if unintentionally it’s basically saying that lesbians (or bisexual women in wlw relationships) can’t have “real” sex and that by extension their intimacy is considered “lesser”. Lesbians and bisexual women already have societal issues with having their relationship scrutinized as “fake” or “a phase” or “attention seeking”. And for some women maybe it is just testing the waters or putting on a show, but making blanket statements like “Sex doesn’t count between women” is both harmful to out lesbians as well contributes to a sense of compulsory heterosexuality seen in many gay/bisexual women who are repressing.

Source: My sister is gay so by extension I know a lot of gay women

I kinda figured that's how it could possibly be taken, and after mulling it over, yeah I guess you're right. Even if the intent of the thought itself isn't meant to belittle the value of the relationship, it could easily spill out in some random argument. I even thought of the rationale that not all relationships regardless of "type" will be respected by everybody for various reasons anyway. But still, that doesn't make any of it less unfortunate.

 

[Dingo777]

I kinda figured that's how it could possibly be taken, and after mulling it over, yeah I guess you're right. Even if the intent of the thought itself isn't meant to belittle the value of the relationship, it could easily spill out in some random argument. I even thought of the rationale that not all relationships regardless of "type" will be respected by everybody for various reasons anyway. But still, that doesn't make any of it less unfortunate.

That self-reflection is all that’s asked