Keikenchi Chochiku de Nonbiri Shoushin Ryokou ~Yuusha to Koibito ni Tsuihou sareta Senshi no Mujikaku zama~ - Vol. 4 Ch. 20

[Iskarioth]

With S rank adventurer as weak as that I'm surprised humanity still can last against demon.

Yeah it's stupid writing again, which happens so often in those " overpowered so and so " type mangas. There's no consistency in terms of strength.

What's stopping the demons from overrunning the world if there's just one strong person (the MC) and other than that even so called s-ranks are trash. Why didn't they conquer the world a week ago when the Mc was still a nobody... or do demons too jsut go op overnight. There's zero logic to any it...

 

[Iskarioth]

yup shes not being controlled just pretending, shes the demon king shes purposly making the hero weaker cause if they fight its basically guaranteed he wins cause of some bullshit i dont care to remember, also she killed hers and torus folks

Which is a convient turn of events (by the author) because it invalidates the premise and still redeems the MC from just abandoning his friends and not believing in his allegeded long-time sweetheart etc when they suddenly and misteriously all fell for the dickhead hero which isn't strange at all 🤦‍♂️

 

[AnotherDuck]

Are there ever any battles that aren't curb stomps one way or another? It sucks out all of the tension in it, since the outcome is stated from the beginning. With those kinds of power level differences any of the sneaky stuff doesn't make sense at all, since it's so easy to work around it if you're magnitudes more powerful.

Yeah it's stupid writing again, which happens so often in those " overpowered so and so " type mangas. There's no consistency in terms of strength.

Yeah, that's kind of it. Characters being that overpowered removes any comparisons between them, especially if they're not even consistent about it.

Which is a convient turn of events (by the author) because it invalidates the premise and still redeems the MC from just abandoning his friends and not believing in his allegeded long-time sweetheart etc when they suddenly and misteriously all fell for the dickhead hero which isn't strange at all 🤦‍♂️

Did he find out about the mind control or not? But yeah, using certain plot devices without thinking about the consequences can easily turn around morality in a completely different direction from what the author intended.

 

[Cobaltzero]

Soooo.... is Nei dead or just getting a demon bedpan special?

 

[ikikinoko]

My gosh this chapter is too graphical compared to LN. As far as I remember I didn't find description for that woman mage being powerless against demon and got raped.

Poor her, wanna save her so I could got that opportunity lol. But MC decision to wipe those demons in the way is right after all.

 

[nisashi13]

well i won't be surprise if he arrived too late and the girl barely alive, just enough to let him know they got brainwashed.

 

[checkmy4]

Another dogshit powerwank isekaai manga.

 

[AnotherDuck]

Soooo.... is Nei dead or just getting a demon bedpan special?

Hopefully not. She's got a name, so it's more likely, but the edge of this chapter is a bit on the sharper side.

Poor her, wanna save her

She was cute.

 

[The_H_Guy]

Soooo.... is Nei dead or just getting a demon bedpan special?

She probably will meet Toru and he will learn how the hero backstabbed her. Probably this wil lead Toru to actively look for him and finally kick his ass for good. And maybe patching things with Nei. They were childhood friends after all.

 

[Jinto]

Rei picks up the sword our "Hero" dropped and is able to hold off the big guy intil Tooru and Co. show up to help finish things off also the mind control spell seems to only work for a short period as he has had to re-apply it before and maybe she will join as a lot of these MCs tend to forget anything including murdering loved ones or attempted murder on them

 

[Beastkun]

its always good to see the hero get beat down but its crazy how lucky he is to still even be alive

 

[popinloopy]

Thank you for the chapter!

 

[Ninoren]

Spoiler: Why she would do that.

She is the current Demon lord and in this world the Hero will ALWAYS win against the demon lord, as there is some bs blessing that the goddess gave that even if the hero was a lv 1 baby the demon lord WILL LOSE....against the Demon lord themselves that is. Now if she ensures that the hero is a POS and weak as balls then she can get him killed any way she wants so this is all really in her plan.

if the hero has no support and the idea of a hero was smeared then the demon lord doesn't have to worry now or in the future as another hero will be born or made.

Spoiler: Why though?

Why is she even sure he is the Hero? Hes literally done nothing that would say so xd Do they get a Job Card that just says 'Hero'? Heh

 

[Tatsuya-Kai]

Spoiler: Why though?

Why is she even sure he is the Hero? Hes literally done nothing that would say so xd Do they get a Job Card that just says 'Hero'? Heh

Spoiler

The hero has a ability that allows them to outlevel the demon lord at all times, something like if the demon lord has 100 strength, then the hero get's a buff of 120 strength, something along those lines, also i believe the hero is only born of certain bloodlines.

 

[Darkshade13]

Are there ever any battles that aren't curb stomps one way or another? It sucks out all of the tension in it, since the outcome is stated from the beginning. With those kinds of power level differences any of the sneaky stuff doesn't make sense at all, since it's so easy to work around it if you're magnitudes more powerful.

I was going to say that this is typical shonen tripe aimed at chuuni middle schoolers who want power fantasies and obvious cardboard villains with no depth or nuance, but the listed demographic is seinen so I've got nothing. This is just shallow, cliched writing.

I do wish that just once one of these "Everyone thought I was weak but I wasn't" stories would a) make the protagonist strong enough to be self-sufficient but not just able to wipe the floor with everyone he encounters. and b) make the hero party or whoever kicks him out not be unrepentant, obvious dickhead trashbag people. Like they don't have to be concerned and all "we're doing this for your own good" earnestly, but at least make it so that the remaining hero isn't the world's sleaziest asshole who constantly gloats about cutting out the "weak" protag and then blaming said protag when everything goes sideways for him.

Plus after a while the hero being this much of an obvious scumbag becomes ridiculous, and seemingly only survives because it abuses an extreme version of Japanese deference to authority/station/merit beyond what makes sense.

I still read this because I like the MC and his party when they're not actively engaged in curb-stomp battles, but it's kind of an "I'm reading this in spite of the parts I don't like" follow from me.

 

[AnotherDuck]

I was going to say that this is typical shonen tripe aimed at chuuni middle schoolers who want power fantasies and obvious cardboard villains with no depth or nuance, but the listed demographic is seinen so I've got nothing. This is just shallow, cliched writing.

Typical shonen only has curb stomp battles when introducing the new top-tier villain, but after that it's more about long relatively even battles that are fueled by determination and friendship. Or at least the classic type of shonen action.

I do wish that just once one of these "Everyone thought I was weak but I wasn't" stories would a) make the protagonist strong enough to be self-sufficient but not just able to wipe the floor with everyone he encounters.

The closest to that I can think of is either Only Sense Online, which is a game so it matters less, but he's at least only powerful when it comes to his actual niche specialties, rather than at absolutely everything, or Saijaku Teima wa Gomi Hiroi no Tabi wo Hajimemashita which has an actually weak tamer girl who gets by with the help of others and doing low-level tasks.

b) make the hero party or whoever kicks him out not be unrepentant, obvious dickhead trashbag people. Like they don't have to be concerned and all "we're doing this for your own good" earnestly, but at least make it so that the remaining hero isn't the world's sleaziest asshole who constantly gloats about cutting out the "weak" protag and then blaming said protag when everything goes sideways for him.

I have seen that a few times, but not in any manga I care to name. An alternative that's more common is like in Shin no Nakama janai to Yuusha no Party wo Oidasareta node, Henkyou de Slow Life suru Koto ni shimashita where it's only one dickhead in the party who kicks MC out (usually the "hero") and the rest of them just don't argue enough, are controlled, or are otherwise ineffective at changing the outcome. Those can also be somewhat redeemable.

I still read this because I like the MC and his party when they're not actively engaged in curb-stomp battles, but it's kind of an "I'm reading this in spite of the parts I don't like" follow from me.

There are a bunch of manga with aspects I don't like, but there are other parts I like enough to spend the few minutes per week/month it takes to read them. If I just read manga I liked everything about I'd run out before I started.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

I feel sorry for the girls. Being mind controlled then discarded like trash like that.

 

[AMicrowave]

I mean she under mind control, but I doubt that's all it is, I have the feeling it's part herself though I hope later one he still won't forgive them like nothing happened, since from his perspective they betrayed him big time

Spoiler

Lisa is the only one who's not under mind control, she's a hoe

 

[Meridis]

Yeah it's stupid writing again, which happens so often in those " overpowered so and so " type mangas. There's no consistency in terms of strength.

What's stopping the demons from overrunning the world if there's just one strong person (the MC) and other than that even so called s-ranks are trash. Why didn't they conquer the world a week ago when the Mc was still a nobody... or do demons too jsut go op overnight. There's zero logic to any it...

To be fair, the S ranks were fine till they were up against the general, which would be among the best of the demons which already have an advantage over humans sans divine intervention with heroes and shit. It's actually just following the logic of the premise that they would be a class or two behind. In which case, it's just a problem of the premise, since it demands this gap to convey how important the special people are.

For fun(?), I like to think about what it would be like to live in the world and systems for each of these stories, not as the mc but just as me living my life. It's usually shit if the world doesn't bend over backwards to give you every advantage and those advantages come at the expense of everyone/thing else. Very few have enough thought put into them that a character getting by in them is a matter of their character and efforts, not happenstance and plotarmor powerscaling.

 

[Salfaro]

Gotta admit I'm a bit surprised that Nei got separated by the main group without the sword. I'm still operating under the assumption that she's the one who actually pulled out the sword (not the evil hero), so I assumed that while the evil hero was limping away, the sword would have been left behind and Nei would pick it up later (after being saved by MC's group). But you can see that the evil hero has the sword in its sheath as he's limping away, so oh well.

I assume she's still alive at least though, would be kind of wild to have the MC show up mid-raid and find out she was killed off-panel.