Kekkaishi e no Tensei - Ch. 51

[Ironclad]

Is Lafayence braindead? He gave them 1000 troops for an escort, and didn't think anything of it. I wouldn't trust this guy to be a greeter at Walmart. Loved by God? Lynos was reincarnated as a slave and lost his new family in the most horrible way imaginable.

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the chapter

 

[Doenyon]

The fact the author blew up MC's happy life(and killed best girl) simply to reset the story and give him a reason to travel(only to lock him down as a Noble somewhere else) will always irk me.

Damn yeah, I completely forgot about that.
Thanks for reminding me, this has been such a different manga since those early chapters I thought it actually was a different story.

 

[HDMI1]

are you shitting me? that's the punishment? the old one is "forced" to retire and go relax at some warm sunny place while the other 2 have to do paperwork? they committed treason, tried to murder and steal the land of the king's brother-in-law. expect more of this in the future, no one is gonna be scared of taking actions against MC now.

Capital punishment of nobility requires announcement to the country. Now imagine saying you're going to kill these 3 nobles because you (the country) fucked up and let them take an army to try and assasinate both a visiting noble and spouse to the King's sister.

Public trust in the competency of the government would hit rock bottom, and other countries would start to undermine it further to create another revolt like the MC's original kingdom from the start of the series.

Best to make them retire without giving a reason, and bury this whole thing as far down as possible.

 

[AnotherDuck]

"Isn't that already worthy of the death penalty?"

Yep. Treason isn't a light crime.

Asking how the battle actually went down is the mark of a strategist.

Nah, moving the army without permission isn't what decided the outcome. It's their incompetence and lack of intelligence, in both meanings of the word.

Underwhelming punishment, but expected. The story has none of the edge it started with.

 

[jokerxhisoka]

did this idiotic protago forget what happened with the people that "adopted" him? Are you bsing me that his will be their punishment?

 

[phil777]

Capital punishment of nobility requires announcement to the country. Now imagine saying you're going to kill these 3 nobles because you (the country) fucked up and let them take an army to try and assasinate both a visiting noble and spouse to the King's sister.

Public trust in the competency of the government would hit rock bottom, and other countries would start to undermine it further to create another revolt like the MC's original kingdom from the start of the series.

Best to make them retire without giving a reason, and bury this whole thing as far down as possible.

I beg to differ. Traitors and greedy bastards must be dealt with publicly, to show that the hand that governs can be gentle at times, but also firm. Otherwise there's no telling when they might plot their next strike. And in wartime, traitors are a liability you don't want.

 

[Kikaibaka]

... Slavers. His slavers. Let's be real, here.

For the punishment, fuck that. I can possibly see sparing the soldiers. The leaders and the royals should have been hanging from a tree, their assets seized and given to the MC. Who, as far as I can tell, received NO compensation from this.

I typically try to stay away from The Edge, but there's no way that punishment fit the crime. "Gee, you pointed a gun at me and pulled the trigger, but the gun jammed and you gave up when I was about to beat your ass. All is forgiven, go retire on a beach somewhere!"

Oh yes, the "slavers"(he could have been adopted straight out and the pre-rebellion part doesn't change at all, and it wouldn't have been as simple as "hurr we stole your slave crest, so we own you, now do what we say!" leading to the Basam family being killed) that gave him a proper education, taught him magic, eventually adopted him into their family, gave him gold to start a little nest egg for when he is freed so as he doesn't become homeless and gave him a place to belong. His status as a slave is mentioned literally 3 times before the rebellion(once at the auction, once when he is told when he will be released, and when he is told he is to become a Barrier Master at the Royal Palace(where they talk about his release from Slavery in order to accept the role). The slavery(and subsequent slave seal) were a shitty plot point that existed just to kill off Lynos' family and enrage him enough to wipe the Rebels completely off the map(including the Royal Castle!) so he wouldn't be restricted from traveling due to having nothing and no one left in that Kingdom. He legitimately lived a better life in the 8 years he spent with the Basam family than 99% of the setting will in their entire lives, slaves or otherwise. Hell Lynos was treated so well by the Basam family even HE forgot he was a damn slave(well until the Rebellion anyway), lol.

 

[vodspod]

whenever I am watching this I am always wondering what happened to the girl from chapter 1

 

[Meridis]

Oh yes, the "slavers"(he could have been adopted straight out and the pre-rebellion part doesn't change at all, and it wouldn't have been as simple as "hurr we stole your slave crest, so we own you, now do what we say!" leading to the Basam family being killed) that gave him a proper education, taught him magic, eventually adopted him into their family, gave him gold to start a little nest egg for when he is freed so as he doesn't become homeless and gave him a place to belong. His status as a slave is mentioned literally 3 times before the rebellion(once at the auction, once when he is told when he will be released, and when he is told he is to become a Barrier Master at the Royal Palace(where they talk about his release from Slavery in order to accept the role). The slavery(and subsequent slave seal) were a shitty plot point that existed just to kill off Lynos' family and enrage him enough to wipe the Rebels completely off the map(including the Royal Castle!) so he wouldn't be restricted from traveling due to having nothing and no one left in that Kingdom. He legitimately lived a better life in the 8 years he spent with the Basam family than 99% of the setting will in their entire lives, slaves or otherwise. Hell Lynos was treated so well by the Basam family even HE forgot he was a damn slave(well until the Rebellion anyway), lol.

well, yeah, it's pretty much left that way to instigate the plot but also does serve as a point. It's like the 3rd area in Tales of Arise, no matter how nice the owner is, a slave is a slave and the moment the owner changes or changes their mind everything that is given can be taken away. I remember having some discussions about it back then, how he let favors and pay make him forget that he wasn't free and how everything ultimately went to shit because he wasn't.

 

[Korvalus]

I've already covered most of your points in my previous opinion, however I wish to address this specific one:
He said the soldiers, who were being forced to follow orders and were the ones wounded as a result, should be shown mercy, not the instigators. Sharing responsibility and calming the situation down, when the prime minister was about to detonate, was Lafayence.

Yes, you're right. Sorry, I jumped the gun. It seemed to me MC wasn't keen to have them executed for their actions so probably mixed the two.

I've also seen your post and agree with you, the punishment was far too light. However I also think these kind of poetic punishments can be even more sadistic than chopping and be done with it. If you want, think about the mental state these three will be on their current situations.

 

[Someone011]

Honestly the punishment or rather complete lack of punishment for the nobles who attempted to murder a fellow noble in cold blood using the empire's army no less, leaves me VERY disappointed.

And I must say that Lynos's reaction also leaves me completely dumbfounded and disapointed at how weak it is.

I would accept that from yet another run of the mill isekai protagonist who had been given cheat powers and everything was more or less easy... But this situation that almost happened to his lands and his own family VERY closely resembles what happened back with the Basams, where the greed of some nobles literally resulted in the gruesome deaths of the only "family" he knew in that world.
I would expect that the person who lost everything to greedy nobles in the past would show actual outrage at even a remote chance of that happening again(let's face it, those nobles plan required everyone of Lynos' family and servants be killed for it to work), especially now that he once again has so much to lose(and considering his actual powers even the empire could do fuck all to deny him rightful retribution).

I truly miss the MC who did this.