Kenja no Mago - Vol. 10 Ch. 32

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@Amplify - the fat archbishop isn't the ruler of Theocracy of Ys. He is only a senior bureaucrat there, equivalent to a minister or a major noble in other countries. The leader is translated as "pope", and wasn't shown in the manga yet.
If I remember correctly, the pope is female, but I don't remember if it's an old lady or a pretty young girl.
 
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@Nicromatic They explain that on page 16 in this chapter. They want him to turn demon but they don't want him turn demon then turn around and destroy all of them too.

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yes, the pope is female and she isn't that old iirc.
 
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Yeah but the thing is that a demonised Shin would probably destroy the whole world accidently
 
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A weak slap to the face????????? That's all? Are you fucking serious?
Wtf is this shit story and why is it always so lame. What pisses me off is how shit the plot and MC is.

In the first place, how the fuck did she get kidnapped right in front of the MC.. fucking useless Mc, at least make use of your powers properly. Use your fucking imagination, plenty of methods of protecting or rescuing her. The simplest would be a radar or whatever and just teleport directly to her.

At least a demon MC would've done a far better job and be way more useful.
 
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Stop insulting this manga! I won't forgive you!
Just kidding
I was actually cringing the whole time when I was reading xD
 
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Villains (in the best series at least) aren't usually wiser than the main hero. They can get things done easier because when you've given yourself to evil, you lose quite a few boundaries that would block the hero's path. They may be more creative in the macro-sense but that usually doesn't have to do with being wise either, rather it's not typical for a hero to be as extravagant and whatnot about their plans as the more memorable villains. Of course, some heroes have the flaw of being naive and such, but that isn't really comparable to Shin. Shin didn't even act in a bad way here and he hasn't done much wrong. He was gonna go apeshit, but Cicely/Sicelli/Sicily/Cecily/etc stepped in and stood up for him and herself. At worse, he wasn't cautious enough, but that's not really a fault of his. For gods sake, they have what is essentially absolute protection and the legendary Shin-kun, so they had the right to feel protected enough.
 
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I'm glad they didn't make Sicily a captive princess. This is a mistake way too many authors make with their heroines.

@sunsetchaos @RozuArison08 They can only teleport to places they've been, in case you forgot. Pretty sure she was too far away for radar to work either.

@tyli0 Jeez your pfp is freaky.
 
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@ DANDAN_THE_DANDAN then don't let her get fucking kidnapped right in front of him in the first place if he can't teleport to her. Literally just does nothing and let her get kidnapped. Too far away is nothing but an excuse. Either put more magic and effort into it for more effective radar or don't let her get too far away in the first place. Could've done anything but never tried. Stop trying to justify and make excuses for his lame weak sauce character.
 
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@DANDAN_THE_DANDAN wat you talkin about? She did become the stereotypical captive "princess" though short lived it still happened. It kinda made the whole training arc and giving her protective treasures that more pointless....
 
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@firefox1234 Captive princesses does absolutely nothing the entire story/story arc. Yeah she's really close to becoming the trope but nearly avoided it by slapping that priest. This is a yes or no requirement, no such thing as "close to".

@sunsetchaos I just reread chapter 31. Your argument is just wrong.

1. She was kidnapped by the demons, not Ys, in a false, diverted attack. That's why they have the magic to be able to teleport a short distance away. Yeah Shin and the gang can chase after them if they ran but they didn't.

2. It's in Sicily's character to be a pacifist and that's why she didn't harm her captors unless she knows that they're demons. I don't think we've even seen her attacked anything so far (correct me if I'm wrong). Once the phone fell down on the floor (which is at the beginning of the chapter) she immediately knew to trick the priest to reveal his location thus making fighting completely unnecessary.

3. I don't recall that Shin has a radar to detect his allies. The only "radar" that exists is to detect demons by feeling their murderous intent or warped magic or something.

4. You just don't follow the series well enough and trick yourself with these "plotholes" that don't even exist.

And as for the slap to the face, do you really want to harm an important figure of a neighbouring country you're trying to ally? It's Ys' decision to punish the corrupt priest and not an outsider's.

Literally most of the complaints I've read are just from readers who failed to understand the story.
 
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I get the reason why they didn't kill the priest, but it's still a huge disappointment. You make this fat pig noble, use him to enrage the readers, then all you give him is a slap to the face. I would say kill him, but again, that goes against the whole plot of them trying to get Ys as an ally. But they definitely needed to give him something more than a fucking slap to the face by the damsel in distress. You need to have a balance for these sorts of troupes if you're going to use them. But w/e. We'll see if the country does something that'll satisfy us, seeing how we definitely won't see anything else coming from the main group.
 
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Was any of this bullshit necessary? Why there had to be an ugly bastard archbishop pedophile, why is the heroine so weak? She could've used magic to cut the rope, she could've attacked the archbishop, used some magic to stun or knock him out, regardless she could've fought him in combat, and all of this for what? No character development no story progression just pissing off the good guys and the readers


@DANDAN_THE_DANDAN "And as for the slap to the face, do you really want to harm an important figure of a neighbouring country you're trying to ally? It's Ys' decision to punish the corrupt priest and not an outsider's." That moment when you want ugly bastard to die, but he's a high ranking individual in a theocracy, one more reason to hate character... Check

By the way... What the heck was he saying? Something like "My God, what was I doing?" even tho he already raped other young lasses before
 
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By the way... What the heck was he saying? Something like "My God, what was I doing?" even tho he already raped other young lasses before
Yeah, I'm a fan of this series and even I feel that's a little unbelievable. I accidentally looked over this last time.
 
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Well, one thing's for certain, scum like him committed crimes against my ethical-moral values, therefore he's a criminal that has to be punished, I vote for physical labor and mental torture
 

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