Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 25 - Slacker

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Im guessing something bad happened in the timeline where he wasn't bullied so it's actually her from a different timeline.
 
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Clover is 100% a time traveler too, no way a kid could manipulate the sister for so long so consistently.
 
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See i get it whne she was a child
But now she is like 20
That's not how thing works, when you're groomed as a child, it has lifelong consequences on you and how you perceive the world (in the same way how you are raised does).

The fact she's still in active contact with said groomer / bad influence every single day with nobody opposing it means there's almost no reasonable way a normal person could get out of it by themselves. Doubly so since in this case the groomer is a time traveling mastermind.
 
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At this point, Clover is less a person and more a malicious force of nature or a metaphor for the various negative influences you can encounter and become involved with in life. Whoever they turn out to be and whatever their reason, it will still most likely feel convoluted or forced to me because nothing seems to call for going to these extremes of manipulation.
Also, boy, I wasn't ready to properly read about his sister. Even vaguely knowing what's coming, it still raised my blood pressure. Her situation is a failure on the part of her parents, who didn't immediately confiscate her phone and PC and go through them to ascertain what she was up to the moment her behavior suddenly shifted. If a child's behavior suddenly worsens, it's usually the fault of a new negative influence in their life. Even so, she's a tremendous piece of shit and my second most hated char.
Here's hoping I can survive reading more about her and the character I hate even more than her without an aneurysm.:nyoron:

In my book, she deserves the Metamorphosis treatment for being such a piece of garbage based on what I saw in the raws, but maybe I'm just being harsh. This could all have been avoided if she weren't her fathers daughter and thus an irredeemable piece of shit. The mom was making such good progress too...
 
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Whoever that person is, that person is super manipulative
"I can fix her," yeah, good luck with that.
 
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Bro, I feel so bad for the mom. Like, she's getting completely beaten down by life. Her daughter hates her for stupid reasons, her husband is clueless about how much his own family is hurting, and this clover character must be belittling her constantly to keep her in the erratic mental state she's currently in. I hope she doesn't die at the end of this; I want to see her return to being a loving mother and a healthy person.
 
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"Telling you to work hard is like telling a bird to run or fish to fly; it's absurd."
And that's why birds fly and fish swim; they both work hard in their own way.
It's funny because there are birds that swim and fish that fly
 
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There's a lot of holes on who this Clover can be. Obviously they know everything about Uichi and his family to the point they know exactly how to manipulate his sister to pull the rug out from under the family like this. They even knew that Uichi's fake-best friend was obsessed with Yotshua. So the theory of this being an alternative Yotshua is looking more and more likely. But that begs the question on what Uichi did to provoke her and when did the timeline get screwed? But we also have to keep in mind that the whole reason why Yotshua got the watch was to go back in time and save Uichi. This implies that this person has been operating before she acquired it. So at that point we can only think a few things: First Yotshua is stuck in some sort of time loop. Second, this is an alternate universe altogether where in her universe, Uichi provoked and/or even ruined Evil Yotshua's life somehow. Third, this isn't even an alternate Yotshua and is someone who Uichi offended and somehow acquired a watch of their own to come back in time to ruin his life.
From how I see it, they're doing the exact same thing our Yotshua is doing. They've been repeating this timeline over and over again in order to formulate the perfect plan to ruin Uichi. Going back to the time loop theory, our Yotshua's watch could be the one this person discarded after accomplishing their task. Perhaps the reason why it's malfunctioning is due to the paradox that's occurring.
I feel like Uichi became successful in the future and someone had it out for him because of success due to jealousy
 
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I'd imagine she's the target audience for the flat earthers and such. So little convincing and she just folded right in.
 
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Nooooo! This is the last chapter! I was so engaged! That said, the sister is wife material.
 
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GUYS WE LITERALLY HAVE TIME TRAVEL COME ON WE CAN FIX HER IT'S NOT ENTIRELY HER FAULT 😭
 
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Funny thing is that this sentence is originated from Europeans who always hates them...
 
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Nah, she needs to be corrected like that "Hiki Neet reforming" doujin
 
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Just remembered to read this from a buddy's suggestions and it's so good... Can't wait for next chapters!

Also obligatory - she can't be fixed bro
 
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I feel like Uichi became successful in the future and someone had it out for him because of success due to jealousy
At this point, Clover is less a person and more a malicious force of nature or a metaphor for the various negative influences you can encounter and become involved with in life. Whoever they turn out to be and whatever their reason, it will still most likely feel convoluted or forced to me because nothing seems to call for going to these extremes of manipulation.
Also, boy, I wasn't ready to properly read about his sister. Even vaguely knowing what's coming, it still raised my blood pressure. Her situation is a failure on the part of her parents, who didn't immediately confiscate her phone and PC and go through them to ascertain what she was up to the moment her behavior suddenly shifted. If a child's behavior suddenly worsens, it's usually the fault of a new negative influence in their life. Even so, she's a tremendous piece of shit and my second most hated char.
Here's hoping I can survive reading more about her and the character I hate even more than her without an aneurysm.:nyoron:

In my book, she deserves the Metamorphosis treatment for being such a piece of garbage based on what I saw in the raws, but maybe I'm just being harsh. This could all have been avoided if she weren't her fathers daughter and thus an irredeemable piece of shit. The mom was making such good progress too...
I'd laugh so hard if this all because someone's pet died. They go back and ruin his life for an animal he couldn't save so the person in a rage goes back and makes his life hell.
 

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