Kimi wa Yotsuba no Clover - Ch. 33 - Despair

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These last few chapters have tickled that theorist itch and so I had to try and figure out what's going on here. And so, here's my theory...

First off, I have to wonder what exactly changed for the family argument to happen. Yotsuha has clearly set up a good situation here before, so what changed to have everything spiral so fast?

If we work backwards, the family argument was caused by the money being stolen, the sister stole the money because of the boyfriend, the boyfriend and the sister only met because of Clover, and Clover only intervened because the sister got a job offer.

So Yotsuha setting up the job? Is that what did it?

Well no, because she's set this situation up before. So then why did Clover suggest blowing off the job this time, and not in any previous timelines? My only guess is that Clover is a time traveler too. Which then poses the question;

If Clover can go back in time as well, then why did Yotsuha win in the first place?

If you remember in the earlier chapters, we learn that Yotsuha actually managed to fix everything in Uichi's life before the events of the story. However, she decided to go all the way back to the start again when she found out there was a mastermind—Clover. So if Clover and Yotsuha can both manipulate time, then how did Yotsuha win? Even more, how did she win without ever noticing another time traveler's (Clover's) existence?

What if only one event can be changed at a time?

Before Yotsuha succeeded in fixing Uichi's life, all of her resets would've been made in an instant. Without the insider knowledge of having done it all before, she would've made small, untrackable changes as she needed them to happen. And so in these first few attempts, Clover couldn't really do anything because:

1. It'd be impossible to know what Yotsuha was going to do, because even with time manipulation powers, it was the first time she'd ever done it.

2. Only one event can be changed at a time... So even if Clover knew and wanted to change it, they couldn't.

In this situation the odds are stacked so heavily against Clover that all they can really do is wait for Yotsuha to make a move, and try and manipulate the people around Uichi to try and stop her. But of course, you can't compete with a time traveler and so Clover eventually loses.

But then... Yotsuha goes back right to the start, and the scales are reset. But this time, Clover knows exactly what Yotsuha is up too. Clover might not realize that she's back at the beginning, causing the incident with Yae to transpire exactly like the last time, but now that Clover knows what Yotsuha's done in the future, (and thus, what all of her moves are now) it wouldn't take much to use their own time reset to do EXACTLY what Yotsuha did—set up the dominos and watch them fall without the opposition being able to go back and change it.

Can't be certain this is what's going to happen since it relies on several layers of assumptions, but it connects every dot and would be a fun twist to the normal time traveler trope so I think it's good lmao.
 
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honestly having the time watch stop working is pure cinema its making every action seem fatal. (and also if this doesnt have a happy ending im going to crash out)
I was wondering when the time rewind would stop working, cause well.. it had to at some point. It's too convenient, even if she has to take the toll on herself of seeing the failed timelines over and over. I'm really curious how it will shake out in the end, author really made a big hurdle immediately as she lost the rewind.

ty scanlators, im surprisingly interested in this story :)
 
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So... The convenient 'time machine got broke' development must be a 'deus in machina', right? Because God doesn't come out through the machine to save the plot; he stays in the machine to save the plot.

Also I'm not too excited about Uichi's chances if he goes off to live with off-brand Gasai Yuno over here, anyway...
 
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I always find the problems realistic(apathetic dad, uncaring sister, mental mother) yet the characters act in such cartoonishly way.
It is realistic but all three extreme examples existing in the same space isn't. So when all of them go off at the same time, it feels comedic more than tragic.
 
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Bruh it makes no sense. It’s his sister fault, why is Uichi the one who has to fix the mistakes from her? It’s pure ragebait
 
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this poor boy can't get a break the way how everything spiraled so fast i need to know why this clover person hates bro so much cause jesus
 
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the mental gymnastics the father plays while being completely serious AND thinking he's doing the right thing is some next-level writing. Even I can't believe how quickly everything just crumbled apart. I do wonder what Yotsuha's plan is; is it that she ISN'T rewinding, or CAN'T rewind? When she was sitting on the bed, and Uichi ask her to live together in college, it definitely felt like she was at the end of her time or something. I have a bad feeling about all of this....
I like that the author is pushing the father as a psychopath who doesn't understand human relationship at all
 
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I would like to congratulate the author for making the most hateable character in all of fiction. The dad REALLY pisses me off in a way no other character can
 
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This dad is absolutely braindead, do the entire family and all readers a giant favor and KYS
 
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does the dude have to die first before she could turn back time 🤔
 
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My maybe far out theory with not much backing evidence is that Clover is a deranged version of Yotsuha from another future or timeline where she thought the greatest happiness she could give Uichi was him killing himself to stop all the suffering from living. Clover at the very least is obviously Yotsuha's motif already, and they also seem to have some prediction of the future when they told Uichi's sister to carry her phone with her right before she got offered part-time work so that they could persuade her not to. Even current Yotsuha seems to carry a lot of guilt with her about Uichi and has moments of breaking down, so it doesn't seem to farfetched that there's a future Yotsuha who just completely broke down mentally. It'd be a weird time loop of her trying to best herself though.
 
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Fuck the mother was so close and the father just has no fucking clue
 

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