Kingdom - Ch. 811 - The Blade's Meaning
- Thread starter MangaDex
- Start date
Member
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2024
- Messages
- 6
Neigh-ne-ne-neiiigh!
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Sep 9, 2018
- Messages
- 869
LOVE KINGDOM
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Jul 26, 2020
- Messages
- 1,460
Damn this chapter hits....
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Apr 24, 2023
- Messages
- 93
Horse drifting? That's too old fashioned. The new meta is flying horses.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Feb 17, 2018
- Messages
- 7,932
10/10 panel to laugh at after that heavy stuff.
Double-page supporter
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2018
- Messages
- 355
Jamou tribe people are just JoJo characters.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- May 13, 2020
- Messages
- 427
I would love to see the reaction in the Han capital to hearing about what's happening in Nanyou
Member
- Joined
- Mar 30, 2018
- Messages
- 20
This was really such a fantastic chapter. I don't care if Shin's thinking was naive; his words came from the heart, and I always respect that. I love it. I also enjoy his moments of introspection. Shin is such an awesome protag, man. I'm enjoying this arc a whole lot.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2023
- Messages
- 285
flying general
I like the manga actually going out of its way to show that the shounen logic that Shin has is backed up by actual thought instead of Naruto logic and that he's completely aware of its deficiencies rather than just pretending the deficiencies don't exist and that disagreeing is a moral failing. I also like that the manga makes the people disagreeing have a balanced opinion and actual logic as to why they disagree with the softness.
The magistrate's speaking from five hundred years of hard-won experience on what does and doesn't work. More, even, since Zhou China wasn't exactly a utopian land of peace and plenty. There were probably generals just like Shin in that time, but they all died, because it's a flawed idea that doesn't work well. So the fact that there's real difficulties in the "other path" lends weight to the idea that it's not that Ei Sei, Shin and Tou are uniquely good individuals in the history of China but rather that the "evil" path is the one that's actually worked out for the generals in a position to choose, so that even otherwise good or neutral generals have had to choose the way that's not sugar and spice. Because of course, even most people reading this manga would probably choose Bihei over Onkei if you had to choose one of them to die in a gutter somewhere.
I especially like how Tou immediately asks the magistrates, who are experienced with controlling people and the administration of cities, for help. It makes the choice a meaningful and deliberate choice to take a gamble, not on the moral fibre of your leaders or your men, but on the administrative ability of your subordinates, rather than retroactively painting everyone who came before as bloodthirsty imbeciles. It's not that nobody else wanted to do what Ei Sei's attempting right now, it's that some of them tried very hard and failed. I think that's a lot more compelling, because it shows respect to all the people who came before.
The magistrate's speaking from five hundred years of hard-won experience on what does and doesn't work. More, even, since Zhou China wasn't exactly a utopian land of peace and plenty. There were probably generals just like Shin in that time, but they all died, because it's a flawed idea that doesn't work well. So the fact that there's real difficulties in the "other path" lends weight to the idea that it's not that Ei Sei, Shin and Tou are uniquely good individuals in the history of China but rather that the "evil" path is the one that's actually worked out for the generals in a position to choose, so that even otherwise good or neutral generals have had to choose the way that's not sugar and spice. Because of course, even most people reading this manga would probably choose Bihei over Onkei if you had to choose one of them to die in a gutter somewhere.
I especially like how Tou immediately asks the magistrates, who are experienced with controlling people and the administration of cities, for help. It makes the choice a meaningful and deliberate choice to take a gamble, not on the moral fibre of your leaders or your men, but on the administrative ability of your subordinates, rather than retroactively painting everyone who came before as bloodthirsty imbeciles. It's not that nobody else wanted to do what Ei Sei's attempting right now, it's that some of them tried very hard and failed. I think that's a lot more compelling, because it shows respect to all the people who came before.
Dex-chan lover
- Joined
- Apr 25, 2019
- Messages
- 420
Oh? You're approaching us? Even though you're all shorter than us you're approaching us?
So... I actually just remembered that the historical Tou was the interior minister of Qin. The whole damn subplot of his needing to have the capital decide who outranks whom is completely contrived in this story. In the real world Tou was always the boss in both civil and military matters.
