Kingdom - Ch. 816 - The Vice-Commander's Words of Encouragement

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Whats gonna be the plan here?
I think Qin wouldnt want to lose even one third of that army.
 
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I wonder how Han plans to fight, but they're dealing with generals who tend to drag others into their own pace. Actually, I guess Shin has already spilled Qin's plan; aggressively heat hunt the generals of Han and then the Han soldiers will surrender.

Shin is already taunting the opponent generals; he's going to fight right at the front. The Han generals will be cowardly to not do the same. I'm guessing Qin is going to put its best foot forward, using their battle hardened soldiers in the front in order to pressure Han soldiers. Shin does that naturally by calling out for the glory of taking the enemies' heads so his strongest troops, who have been promoted, will seek further promotions through their own accomplishments. Then the Han generals will have to step forward themselves in order to prevent the flow of the battle from going Qin's way.

The 30000 additional troops from the various cities that provided reinforcements will definitely immediately surrender once things go bad, and when the remaining soldiers see this they will also surrender. They'll have lost too much morale. Those 30000 reinforcements will become a poison for the Han army, that ensures it doesn't viciously struggle when cornered.

This should ensure minimal losses. They'll then go in Shintei and execute the king and the top officials who argued against surrendering while the princess will be convinced to work for Qin. Han, who sees that their princess is treated well and that the Qin rules are fair to all, should then be compliant in supporting Qin. If Tou and Shin can successfully hunt down the generals of Han and avoid losing too many of their and the Han's troops, that's a lot of Han professional troops who'll be keen to keep their jobs. Han troops contributing to Qin should also help Han citizens to get better status in Qin, since regardless of their ideals Qin citizen will likely look down on citizens from conquered countries.

It seems the march to the battle slow enough for the neighbouring countries' scouts to get the information back, but they're all far too passive in helping Han. What's the point of rushing to Han after the battle is over? Qin has prepared their fresh recruits for a year, and they've just been in a staring contest with the Qin armies blocking their ability to reinforce Han but now that Han is fighting a battle for survival, they'll rush out and obliterate those armies and have the strength to also recover Han? Well, I understand why they wouldn't be keen on spilling their own blood for another country especially when it seems like Qin has poor odds of even just winning to start with (their army is outnumbered and consists of a good number of fresh recruits); it's easier to let things play out and let Qin exhaust themselves. The armies stationed to prevent reinforcements have also had to spend that year away from their homes, in enemy territory, so that has to be unnerving and exhausting. Hopefully that year has been spent harassing them but I suspect they've been complacent. Well, history tells us that they'll regret their inaction, but hindsight is 20/20.
 
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It seems the march to the battle slow enough for the neighbouring countries' scouts to get the information back, but they're all far too passive in helping Han. What's the point of rushing to Han after the battle is over? Qin has prepared their fresh recruits for a year, and they've just been in a staring contest with the Qin armies blocking their ability to reinforce Han but now that Han is fighting a battle for survival, they'll rush out and obliterate those armies and have the strength to also recover Han? Well, I understand why they wouldn't be keen on spilling their own blood for another country especially when it seems like Qin has poor odds of even just winning to start with (their army is outnumbered and consists of a good number of fresh recruits); it's easier to let things play out and let Qin exhaust themselves. The armies stationed to prevent reinforcements have also had to spend that year away from their homes, in enemy territory, so that has to be unnerving and exhausting. Hopefully that year has been spent harassing them but I suspect they've been complacent. Well, history tells us that they'll regret their inaction, but hindsight is 20/20.
The point is to be jackals and hunt down the remaining army while consuming what remains of Han for themselves.

Also, they very clearly stated that they have been fighting for the past year with the enemy armies; it hasn't been just a constant standoff.
 
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I wonder how Han plans to fight, but they're dealing with generals who tend to drag others into their own pace. Actually, I guess Shin has already spilled Qin's plan; aggressively heat hunt the generals of Han and then the Han soldiers will surrender.

Shin is already taunting the opponent generals; he's going to fight right at the front. The Han generals will be cowardly to not do the same. I'm guessing Qin is going to put its best foot forward, using their battle hardened soldiers in the front in order to pressure Han soldiers. Shin does that naturally by calling out for the glory of taking the enemies' heads so his strongest troops, who have been promoted, will seek further promotions through their own accomplishments. Then the Han generals will have to step forward themselves in order to prevent the flow of the battle from going Qin's way.

The 30000 additional troops from the various cities that provided reinforcements will definitely immediately surrender once things go bad, and when the remaining soldiers see this they will also surrender. They'll have lost too much morale. Those 30000 reinforcements will become a poison for the Han army, that ensures it doesn't viciously struggle when cornered.

This should ensure minimal losses. They'll then go in Shintei and execute the king and the top officials who argued against surrendering while the princess will be convinced to work for Qin. Han, who sees that their princess is treated well and that the Qin rules are fair to all, should then be compliant in supporting Qin. If Tou and Shin can successfully hunt down the generals of Han and avoid losing too many of their and the Han's troops, that's a lot of Han professional troops who'll be keen to keep their jobs. Han troops contributing to Qin should also help Han citizens to get better status in Qin, since regardless of their ideals Qin citizen will likely look down on citizens from conquered countries.

It seems the march to the battle slow enough for the neighbouring countries' scouts to get the information back, but they're all far too passive in helping Han. What's the point of rushing to Han after the battle is over? Qin has prepared their fresh recruits for a year, and they've just been in a staring contest with the Qin armies blocking their ability to reinforce Han but now that Han is fighting a battle for survival, they'll rush out and obliterate those armies and have the strength to also recover Han? Well, I understand why they wouldn't be keen on spilling their own blood for another country especially when it seems like Qin has poor odds of even just winning to start with (their army is outnumbered and consists of a good number of fresh recruits); it's easier to let things play out and let Qin exhaust themselves. The armies stationed to prevent reinforcements have also had to spend that year away from their homes, in enemy territory, so that has to be unnerving and exhausting. Hopefully that year has been spent harassing them but I suspect they've been complacent. Well, history tells us that they'll regret their inaction, but hindsight is 20/20.

Historically, Han Feizi (Kan Pishi) was actually an agent of King An of Han who had the secret duty of getting close to Ying Zheng (Ei Sei) to propose the vassalage of Han. The idea was to have the state of Han persist with King An accepting a "demotion" to a duke. Han Feizi, had he theoretically managed to become Ying Zheng's primary advisor, would then have protected Han's status in the Qin court. Well, he failed and got himself killed instead. However, King An's next ploy was to hand over Nanyang (Nanyou) to Qin rule for the same result. So in real history Interior Minister (Neishi) Teng (Tou) actually just walked into Nanyang without a fight. What happened later was unclear, but one year after the handover of Nanyang, Neishi Teng marched into the Han capital and captured King An.

King An then stayed as a Qin vassal for two years before getting exiled for an unknown reason.

So in real history, the other states didn't interfere because the Han state actually surrendered to Qin in two stages where the second stage may have been a faux military conquest to remove internal Han resistance to King An's plan. Neishi Teng's march to the Han capital may have looked like what is shown to have happened in Nanyang in this manga. There was no point for the other states to try to help Han, and trying to conquer Han would have gotten them bloodied by the combined Qin-Han forces.
 
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in history, they easily win this one, then take wei the very next year and they'll just devour the other states in the next 10 years with most surrendering even before entering a war. I'm starting to believe we'll see the end of this manga before 2030 :dogkek:
 
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The speeches gave me goosebumps.
I sincerely hope that for once it will actually be a relatively easy victory for Qin, especially since otherwise all the other kingdoms will go at Qin's throat
 
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shin: "speaking eloquently like those guys doesn't suit me"
literally 2mn later after his "non-eloquent" speech: ドオオオ
 
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Historically, Han Feizi (Kan Pishi) was actually an agent of King An of Han who had the secret duty of getting close to Ying Zheng (Ei Sei) to propose the vassalage of Han. The idea was to have the state of Han persist with King An accepting a "demotion" to a duke. Han Feizi, had he theoretically managed to become Ying Zheng's primary advisor, would then have protected Han's status in the Qin court. Well, he failed and got himself killed instead. However, King An's next ploy was to hand over Nanyang (Nanyou) to Qin rule for the same result. So in real history Interior Minister (Neishi) Teng (Tou) actually just walked into Nanyang without a fight. What happened later was unclear, but one year after the handover of Nanyang, Neishi Teng marched into the Han capital and captured King An.

King An then stayed as a Qin vassal for two years before getting exiled for an unknown reason.

So in real history, the other states didn't interfere because the Han state actually surrendered to Qin in two stages where the second stage may have been a faux military conquest to remove internal Han resistance to King An's plan. Neishi Teng's march to the Han capital may have looked like what is shown to have happened in Nanyang in this manga. There was no point for the other states to try to help Han, and trying to conquer Han would have gotten them bloodied by the combined Qin-Han forces.
i think this will still happen, remember that the qin emissary had a special message to the princcess .
 

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