Kono Oto Tomare! - Vol. 19 Ch. 71 - Opening Act
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Oh my lord. Puppy face yoshinaga is too pure for this world.
Also senpai kouhai cooking battle...fight on isaki-San !!!
Also senpai kouhai cooking battle...fight on isaki-San !!!
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This chapter is basically a "smiles that I want to protect" compilation <3
And yeah, I also get that feeling of not fitting in, and getting depressed immediately afterwards, ha ha ha... it gets better after a while!
And yeah, I also get that feeling of not fitting in, and getting depressed immediately afterwards, ha ha ha... it gets better after a while!
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This manga is great and all the characters are amazing and have their own personalities.
Chika is especially beautiful.
but Momoya, by far, is the most complex and difficult to develop character in this series.
He's a loner character that feels lonely, and that is not only very relatable, but also hard to balance.
Most manga's, when approaching a lonely loner character, will just make expel their "Loner status" and make it seem that extroversion is above introversion.
but here, the manga-ka is attempting to maintain his loner aspect, without making it out to be a some negative character flaw that somehow heals or grow out of.
instead is slowing integrating his life with genuine connections whilst respecting his need for personal space and loner nature.
and that is freaking hard i tell you, even in reality it's incredibly difficult to understand, and this author is attempting to write it.
Momoya is a difficult as hell character even despite his relatable aspects.
And I think the author is amazing for that.
(Chika is still the most beautiful though QvQ )
Chika is especially beautiful.
but Momoya, by far, is the most complex and difficult to develop character in this series.
He's a loner character that feels lonely, and that is not only very relatable, but also hard to balance.
Most manga's, when approaching a lonely loner character, will just make expel their "Loner status" and make it seem that extroversion is above introversion.
but here, the manga-ka is attempting to maintain his loner aspect, without making it out to be a some negative character flaw that somehow heals or grow out of.
instead is slowing integrating his life with genuine connections whilst respecting his need for personal space and loner nature.
and that is freaking hard i tell you, even in reality it's incredibly difficult to understand, and this author is attempting to write it.
Momoya is a difficult as hell character even despite his relatable aspects.
And I think the author is amazing for that.
(Chika is still the most beautiful though QvQ )
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@Sparrow75 IMO in many ways Kurata is more like a classic loner/introvert--just a quietish, shy-ish guy. Which makes it rather a problem for him to be forced into the leader role, especially since he also sees himself as significantly less talented than at least two of the other members. He is perhaps less complex in the sense that he doesn't seem to have a lot of major dysfunction going on. And he's a less extreme personality generally than some of the others--he's not a complete loner, he's not extremely shy, just more of both than average. I actually like him precisely because he's a nuanced person who has to be drawn all the more carefully because you can't hang his characterization on one or two extremes.
Momoya is an unusual guy and while the tag "loner" fits, I'm not so sure about "introvert". Superficially pleasant and sociable, has a good surface going on, but doesn't seem to relate to anyone at a level deeper than surface--doesn't typically care about people, and people don't typically care about him. He may have given up ages ago after first finding that people pull away from him because he's too good at everything, too effortlessly, but if so it was so long ago that he's left with only a vague feeling that maybe this is unsatisfying and not quite how things are supposed to work. Certainly an interesting character, but quite atypical for introvert types. Most introverts I've known, including myself (more when I was younger), tend to have no problem relating pretty closely to people, just not very many people. Only willing to socialize with a few at a time, only wanting to be close to a few total, and generally more quiet the more our number threshold is exceeded. Momoya is quite weird as introverts go--he'd actually probably be fine at a party, a place where nobody knows each other that well and he can easily skate along the surface, where most introverts loathe them precisely because they have to deal with big numbers of people they don't know well. But in the past when he's gotten involved on a more extended basis with smaller numbers of people, like in a band, he's eventually given up, unable to get close . . . where more typical introverts in that sort of situation would bond with at least a couple in that small group and in time become relatively comfortable.
Momoya actually feels almost like a psychopath . . . a psychopath who doesn't happen to be evil, and who actually doesn't like being one and would like to be able to feel for people the way other people seem able to. But a psychopath, in the sense of not really grokking emotional experiences like love, friendship or empathy and covering up with a smooth facade. I don't think he quite is one, and there's a definite feeling that his emotions are more dormant than completely absent. Definitely an interesting character.
Momoya is an unusual guy and while the tag "loner" fits, I'm not so sure about "introvert". Superficially pleasant and sociable, has a good surface going on, but doesn't seem to relate to anyone at a level deeper than surface--doesn't typically care about people, and people don't typically care about him. He may have given up ages ago after first finding that people pull away from him because he's too good at everything, too effortlessly, but if so it was so long ago that he's left with only a vague feeling that maybe this is unsatisfying and not quite how things are supposed to work. Certainly an interesting character, but quite atypical for introvert types. Most introverts I've known, including myself (more when I was younger), tend to have no problem relating pretty closely to people, just not very many people. Only willing to socialize with a few at a time, only wanting to be close to a few total, and generally more quiet the more our number threshold is exceeded. Momoya is quite weird as introverts go--he'd actually probably be fine at a party, a place where nobody knows each other that well and he can easily skate along the surface, where most introverts loathe them precisely because they have to deal with big numbers of people they don't know well. But in the past when he's gotten involved on a more extended basis with smaller numbers of people, like in a band, he's eventually given up, unable to get close . . . where more typical introverts in that sort of situation would bond with at least a couple in that small group and in time become relatively comfortable.
Momoya actually feels almost like a psychopath . . . a psychopath who doesn't happen to be evil, and who actually doesn't like being one and would like to be able to feel for people the way other people seem able to. But a psychopath, in the sense of not really grokking emotional experiences like love, friendship or empathy and covering up with a smooth facade. I don't think he quite is one, and there's a definite feeling that his emotions are more dormant than completely absent. Definitely an interesting character.
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@sheephunt2000 @Rxlvo Now I remember how it was. I only managed to read this one back then. I didn't notice a thing wrong, if memory serves. You guys have really high standards, but I guess it's fitting for as excellent a manga as this one.
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@Purplelibraryguy That's a really accurate depiction you've made there, and as another introvert myself, I have to agree, I relate with Kurata a lot more in terms of personality, while Momoya really feels like someone I could have been, having thrown away the shyness and self-consciousness, ending up going with the flow and bonding with others superficially, always feeling like you don't really belong with others, and acting cynical while really minding it deep down inside... I'm really looking forward to how the author will handle this situation!
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@sheephunt2000 oh I see, thanks for telling me this because I wouldn't have seen the omake at the end as well
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Momoya is a pretty, aloof, and overtalented bad boy who can’t connect with commoners. In some ways the typical shoujo romance prince. But here a late addition. Will this be a tedious arc or one worth the Bildungsroman slog? Stay tuned.
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Also will there be a love triangle involving sensei?
I'm really loving the contrast between the two new characters. Both are loners in a sense but give off completely different feelings.
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Yes, someone should supervise Isaki's cooking. It may cause casualties otherwise.
