Koushaku Reijou ni Tensei shiteshimatta node, Mental Otome na Ore wa, Zenryoku de Onnanoko wo Tanoshimimasu - Ch. 8.2 - I'm doing fortune-telling?

[MangaDex]

 

[sanctuary]

Isn't she getting ripped off?

 

[Thepandas12]

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[monkey123]

No time to relax.

 

[Antinomy]

This cunny just living day to day and I'm enjoying it.
Thanks for the TL.

Isn't she getting ripped off?

She's the one who set the percentage

 

[feha]

Isn't she getting ripped off?

Let's see... She asks someone to sell her designs as clothes, but that person won't do the sewing, and possibly not the selling either. That person calls herself supervisor, but is not the one consulting margaret about business (meaning she probably isn't the one finding who to outsource things to and negotiating that stuff etc.). What she does do is lend her name for brand recognition, and in return she takes 20% + all credit to boost her name recognition further...
Mc meanwhile gets 10%, does all the designing, consults ppl about business, likely has to negotiate with the outsource ppl (she's a child, so might bring an adult along. But is a noble, so not rly needed). She lends her status as a noble to the venture (though very low-key, so only matters if actual troubles appear), and gets no name recognition or reasonable bribes in return

... Yep, I would argue that she is getting ripped off. Is miranda's name truly worth 20% and all credit, for that venture (in fact, is it even worth more than her own name/status as a noble - particularly as success would boost her name for future ventures, marriage prospects, etc., while loss wouldn't hurt too much considering her age ("just her parents indulging a noble lady kid's selfishness with the results everyone, including them, expected"))?
Besides that, her taking 10% is far too little to begin with, and I wouldn't be surprised if she could've easily demanded something like 70% of the profits (though in return the quantity might suffer, with them instead priced as a high-status luxury. A more reasonable percentage would be something like 50%, or even 30%, depending on how large production and sales she expects/intends).

 

[AnotherDuck]

There's a time for business, but studying is also important.

 

[Shtoops]

This is fun. Thanks for the TL

 

[jonsmth]

Let's see... She asks someone to sell her designs as clothes, but that person won't do the sewing, and possibly not the selling either. That person calls herself supervisor, but is not the one consulting margaret about business (meaning she probably isn't the one finding who to outsource things to and negotiating that stuff etc.). What she does do is lend her name for brand recognition, and in return she takes 20% + all credit to boost her name recognition further...
Mc meanwhile gets 10%, does all the designing, consults ppl about business, likely has to negotiate with the outsource ppl (she's a child, so might bring an adult along. But is a noble, so not rly needed). She lends her status as a noble to the venture (though very low-key, so only matters if actual troubles appear), and gets no name recognition or reasonable bribes in return

... Yep, I would argue that she is getting ripped off. Is miranda's name truly worth 20% and all credit, for that venture (in fact, is it even worth more than her own name/status as a noble - particularly as success would boost her name for future ventures, marriage prospects, etc., while loss wouldn't hurt too much considering her age ("just her parents indulging a noble lady kid's selfishness with the results everyone, including them, expected"))?
Besides that, her taking 10% is far too little to begin with, and I wouldn't be surprised if she could've easily demanded something like 70% of the profits (though in return the quantity might suffer, with them instead priced as a high-status luxury. A more reasonable percentage would be something like 50%, or even 30%, depending on how large production and sales she expects/intends).

10% is only for the design. MC personally does not have anything else to invest. MC's nobility is not theirs alone. If they use the family name, the family should be entitled to the proceeds. The consultation would probably use family's or servants' connections, so it won't be theirs too.

 

[Krewa]

Agree with the others, 10% is too low

 

[Veruschka]

Oh shit

 

[feha]

10% is only for the design. MC personally does not have anything else to invest.

She gives more than the design. She has knowledgable staff on hand to consult, even family members if need be. She has her status and name as a noble.

MC's nobility is not theirs alone. If they use the family name

As for the status not being their alone, that is a non-argument. Nothing stops you from using the fact that you are someone's daughter to put pressure on ppl, or putting your name on things. I agree she should ask her father for permissions first, but from prior interactions that doesn't seem like something he would forbid (maybe he would for using the heraldry to publicly mark it, but making it public they have a noble lady as a backer should still be fine), and even if she doesn't ask him all that could happen is that he gets angry - she won't have committed fraud, identity theft, or any such stuff (granted, making him angry is a bad choice, so ask first. After all, he could forbid her to do bussiness if he wants, or demand all profit (should be legally entitled to it) or even remove her monthly pocket money).

, the family should be entitled to the proceeds.

And I agree the family should be entitled to proceeds (doesn't matter if she uses their name or not), since she is a minor. But he already gave her permissions to earn her own money from bussiness ventures - aka he already told her he won't demand what he's legally entitled.

The consultation would probably use family's or servants' connections, so it won't be theirs too.

And that is exactly my point. She is using her connections (which for a sheltered noble kid means the family's servants) for the consultations, something miranda doesn't even have access to. 10% is far too little for all mc gives the venture (in fact, it would be a bit low even if all she gave was the design).

 

[AMetroid]

📚😵📚Book-kun, we meet again.📚😵📚

 

[arashikitsu]

She gives more than the design. She has knowledgable staff on hand to consult, even family members if need be. She has her status and name as a noble.

As for the status not being their alone, that is a non-argument. Nothing stops you from using the fact that you are someone's daughter to put pressure on ppl, or putting your name on things. I agree she should ask her father for permissions first, but from prior interactions that doesn't seem like something he would forbid (maybe he would for using the heraldry to publicly mark it, but making it public they have a noble lady as a backer should still be fine), and even if she doesn't ask him all that could happen is that he gets angry - she won't have committed fraud, identity theft, or any such stuff (granted, making him angry is a bad choice, so ask first. After all, he could forbid her to do bussiness if he wants, or demand all profit (should be legally entitled to it) or even remove her monthly pocket money).

And I agree the family should be entitled to proceeds (doesn't matter if she uses their name or not), since she is a minor. But he already gave her permissions to earn her own money from bussiness ventures - aka he already told her he won't demand what he's legally entitled.

And that is exactly my point. She is using her connections (which for a sheltered noble kid means the family's servants) for the consultations, something miranda doesn't even have access to. 10% is far too little for all mc gives the venture (in fact, it would be a bit low even if all she gave was the design).

I think an important point would be (if its not a mistranslation or im just misunderstandong something) the 10% of the income not 10% the profits. So that should be money before subtracting the cost (and tax if they even have VAT in that world)

And if im understanding it right, the supervisor would probably be the one who does the whole talking to an atelier and placing the order part. Still... she shoild have taken at least 20%...

 

[ForTheJerusalem]

Cute and funny girl will have to serve people in her underwear.... UOHHHHH 😭😭😭

Isn't she getting ripped off?

I mean she is spending ZERO cash on it, so not really.

 

[malfoym]

that maid and their stupid lessons pisses me off, i find it stupid and useless. being nobles to me is like being caged and a slave to responsibilities when it doesn't even have to be that way.

 

[Mussthemoose]

that maid and their stupid lessons pisses me off, i find it stupid and useless. being nobles to me is like being caged and a slave to responsibilities when it doesn't even have to be that way.

Something to consider is that, while extremely so for the king, how nobles act often plays a large part in how a nation is perceived both without and within. Keep in mind that how our own systems work is that people believed that the king had a divine right, and that right let him 'choose' who would govern different regions, as much as the nobles then judge the royal family on if they are acting in a proper fashion.

It's the line "with great power comes great responsibility". If the people don't see nobles as worthy or capable of leading them, whether they actually are or not, they will revolt. So they have to project an image an image as well of being perfect and civil, and other nobles have a duty to nip problems in the bud or else everyone goes down.

 

[AncientWatcher]

No. Wasting money because of classism or just being perceived as having more money is a really fucking stupid idea. Asking for simple and cheap clothes is perfectly reasonable of our genderbent lead.

Something to consider is that, while extremely so for the king, how nobles act often plays a large part in how a nation is perceived both without and within. Keep in mind that how our own systems work is that people believed that the king had a divine right, and that right let him 'choose' who would govern different regions, as much as the nobles then judge the royal family on if they are acting in a proper fashion.

It's the line "with great power comes great responsibility". If the people don't see nobles as worthy or capable of leading them, whether they actually are or not, they will revolt. So they have to project an image an image as well of being perfect and civil, and other nobles have a duty to nip problems in the bud or else everyone goes down.

Glad that democracy is a thing in several nation-states, so that we don't have to deal with as much of this nonsense as in ancient times.

 

[TestAddress]

Isn't she getting ripped off?

There is an accounting since 70% would be for the expenses. After all - she borrowed money from the atelier by "having a discount for the patronage."

 

[Mussthemoose]

No. Wasting money because of classism or just being perceived as having more money is a really fucking stupid idea. Asking for simple and cheap clothes is perfectly reasonable of our genderbent lead.


Glad that democracy is a thing in several nation-states, so that we don't have to deal with as much of this nonsense as in ancient times.

It's why dictatorships often have the leader be perceived as a powerful, strong, beyond the ability of normal men, etc. Any time someone is in charge with a lot of power they need to try to convince people there's a reason they have all this power, and it's often a big magic show. Doesn't need to convince everyone, just enough. We wouldn't have propaganda otherwise.