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I think this chapter is interesting, because following its internal logic there are now only two people who could be the origin of the black mist.
Either the goddess as mentioned above
Or Milfina is actually the one thanks to some split personality shenanigans

Though saying that if the producer of the mist can make Milfina do things like kill Cecilia they could be controlled her to kill Reva?
 
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I think there might be two lines that lead to Cecilia winning over Kiana.

One (more likely), she's able to deduce who/what killed Reva. Giving that knowledge to Kiana could lead to gaining her allegiance, or at minimum her ongoing gratitude, as Reva was the only one other than Milfina who could actually go toe-to-toe with Kiana, something she holds as the highest importance in her quest to "have fun" in contests of strength. If Kiana finds out who stole her homoerotic rival-slash-love interest, I could see Kiana deciding that Cecilia is an alright person, and might cooperate with her.

The other, is if Kiana has a surprise sweet tooth and the otherworldly pastries and baked goods Cecilia can make end up making Kiana fall head over heels. I don't know if I'd appreciate that sort of outcome because it feels a bit non sequitur-ish, but we saw the pastries win over Reva, so there's a through-line there for strong individuals liking tasty baked goods (however infinitesimally flimsy and reaching it may be). We also had Cecilia bake stuff for Milfina already, so I'm even less inclined to think that'll circle back around once more with one of the Four Generals, but, "every thread is valid until it's not".

Otherwise...interesting that Reva was not killed by Kiana, just on its own face. Learning more and more about each of the Four Demons under Milfina is just fun narrative development on its own, but it does open up the continued strangeness behind what all is happening.
The hero of the goddess not dying to one of the Four, only for that proclamation to be made across the realms of humanity, underscores how suspect all of the information humanity & Cecilia (and thus us the readers) have regarding the invasion of the Demon King. We're still very much in the first portion of this story, so I expect a lot more questions before we get any real, definitive answers, though...so I kinda expect that alongside that, we'll be getting at least a few bouts of misdirection to keep things interesting.
Hopefully it all ties together and doesn't feel like things are pulled out of nowhere to justify weird reveals, but I'm enjoying this mounting sequence of oddities that betray the fact that really nothing is as it seemed.



Thanks for the TL.

We TWGOK now (actually from the start).

So Kiana is just dumb muscle head. Though I doubt Cecilia can talk with with her fist....
 
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The problem with all-powerful and/or all-knowing figures is that people expect them to solve all their problems and provide all the answers without putting in the work themselves. That dependancy isn’t healthy, just consider what happened when the hero allegedly died.

I‘m still maintaining that the goddess isn’t being needlessly cruel. It’s becoming increasingly clear that the demons aren’t the villains that they’ve been portrayed as. In that case, would having the conflict being resolved by a “Hero” wiping out the demons be considered a just outcome? Probably not, and that’s why the goddess is granting Cecilia the means to resolve it her own way. Now, if the goddess told her that the demons that have been committing genocide and destroying nations aren’t actually that bad and are just being manipulated, would Cecilia be able to believe that? Again, probably not, she needs to see it for herself. Some things people can only truly understand if they take the time to work through the problem.
 
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none of the demon lords will be the culprit for sure, but so far they arent that evil????...
i think its the god fairy thing messing up with everyone somehow, but not directly doing the black mist
 
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This manga became quite interesting, the more chapter I read the more questions I have - and it is a good thing.

I like the theory that it is the goddess who is doing this for shit and giggles, that part reminds me a lot of "Wild Last Boss" situation and that can only be a good thing. Everything here is sus for now and while daemon generals are the obvious bad guys to humans they are not outright evil.

I am only at 50/50% chance that Reva is still alive but the news of her death spread around and she allowed it. It gives her time to train in secret until she is ready to face daemon general again.

And humans had magical guns in this world? And they were still losing to daemons? Man...
 
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Not sure it was nothing, actually.
It's another instance of what humanity thinks the demons are doing, and what actually happened. We already have Cecilia's suspicions that the Demon King isn't actually the violent & genocidal entity that she believed, what with the Demon Invasion all.

The fact that she seems to be controlled by some unknown force already raises questions about what the demons are doing waging a war of annihilation; and now we have the strongest Demon in Kiara stating that she is not the one to kill humanity's last hope in the Hero Reva--when all of humanity seems to have been told that it was her, or at least that is what was disseminated. So that's now two big instances of "things are not as they appeared", and it ties into Kiara being the next of the Four that Cecilia is seeking to win over.

The fact that Cecilia also had at least one interaction with Reva, means that there's a point of connection between the two of them. It's flimsy, but it's a shot, given how apparently important the Hero was to Kiara. So getting the backstory for Kiara's personality, along with the motivations that drive her in the larger sequence of events, and revealing a common link between her and our protagonist, was all accomplished in this chapter.
I just don't think we needed a whole flashback chapter introducing and characterizing someone who's already dead just so that we can have a path forward with our story. It's sloppy and breaks the pacing.
That's why I called it a nothing burger, majority of the chapter is introducing a character and his relationship dynamics when said character has been dead for a long time. The only thing here worth mentioning is the superficial connection between the Hero and Cecilia (giving her some pastry, mind you).
All of the other talk points (Kiara and the Demon King's character, etc) could have been explored through a chapter where things other than a ~20 pages flashback happened.

And I would argue the necessity to hammer down even more that Kiara is just battle obsessed and doesn't care about war and that the Demon King is innocent, with how stereotyped they were characterized up until chapter 7, it would be a twist if Kiara did care about the war and the Demon King is actually just evil.
 
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those demons have very child like minds paired with supernatural power. they do not grasp the concept of weakness properly.
either that, or it's arrogance of the privileged.
maybe the following chapter will give them some development to be more insightful.
 
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I just don't think we needed a whole flashback chapter introducing and characterizing someone who's already dead just so that we can have a path forward with our story. It's sloppy and breaks the pacing.
That's why I called it a nothing burger, majority of the chapter is introducing a character and his relationship dynamics when said character has been dead for a long time. The only thing here worth mentioning is the superficial connection between the Hero and Cecilia (giving her some pastry, mind you).
All of the other talk points (Kiara and the Demon King's character, etc) could have been explored through a chapter where things other than a ~20 pages flashback happened.

And I would argue the necessity to hammer down even more that Kiara is just battle obsessed and doesn't care about war and that the Demon King is innocent, with how stereotyped they were characterized up until chapter 7, it would be a twist if Kiara did care about the war and the Demon King is actually just evil.
I still don't think I agree with the argument you've presented here, though having your actual thoughts instead of a vague take at least lets me focus my own.

Reva is clearly an important character. She just so happens to be presently presumed dead, though that happened off-screen, in a setting where we've already been shown that information spread among humanity can be suspect (intentionally or otherwise), and with a goddess who will interfere and resurrect people as it fits whatever aims she possesses. It's not outlandish to think this would apply to her Blessed Hero, and the goddess herself is suspect at this point, on top of that. Whatever her aims, Cecilia indicates in this very chapter that something is off where "humanity's hope and salvation" is concerned. It's an assumption that steps into meta-storytelling, but I'm not convinced that Reva is actually dead, or at least she is not permanently gone from the story, precisely because of how important she is on multiple fronts.

Primarily, Reva needs to be established as a full character & presence in the story & setting, because of her importance to Kiana. We see *Kiana recognizing the twinges and pangs in her chest at the memory of the Hero, and given she's presented as a single-minded warrior who cares for nothing but contests of strength, that's a clear indicator that something that can compete with that obsession now exists, and it's the first thing we see that draws Kiana's attention that isn't a pure love of fighting.

And to that end, we need the flashback to show Reva in combat, to portray just how strong she is. Likewise, we need the flashback of Reva with Cecilia, to show that she is more rounded than Kiana, while being set up as her counterpart. Two rivals, one single-minded and one with varied goals and reasons to fight, who has a soft side when it comes to "maidens" like Cecilia and for earthly pleasures like baked goods. This contrasts the two, and is underpinned by Kiana taking partiuclar interest in Reva, as I stated before.

We don't get any of that without a flashback, and the only way I can immediately think of to otherwise establish Reva's character would be Cecilia having a conversation with Kiana, which would arguably be just as bad of a pacing decision: multiple pages of talking heads spouting exposition is the most literal "tell not show" of storywriting possible.
But this isn't "hammering" that Kiana is battle-obsessed; it's setting up a path forward for her character and for Cecilia to find common ground with her. In that light, Reva's important, and we need her character established in a way that gives a rounded image of who she is/was. Maybe it's a matter of subjective taste, but I'd rather a flashback than several pages of text-heavy exposition from otherwise static characters standing in a room talking at one another.



I'm not sure what you mean by this being a 'twist', though. I was using the previous chapters building on Milfina's character, and Lapience's for that matter, to show that more of the same could be expected when it comes to Kiana. That's me citing the previous characterization to indicate that Kiana will likewise not be as she was initially presented, not claiming that it is or that it needs to be continuously reinforced.
 
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Sister here tryna survive a limited number of time loops for the sake of two warring races because the Goddess decided to be an ass and this demon general really had the gall to go and segue into her own doomed yuri subplot 😭😭
 
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The art kinda off this chapter
Always has been. The proportions and angles are always very scuffed, it's just highlighted in this chapter cause it features Kiana a lot, who happens to be the worst drawn character. Guess the artist particularly struggles with giant muscular women's proportions.
 
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1. Reva isn’t dead.
2. Milfina is controlled by another goddess (dark). Could be a love interest for the light goddess. She wants the princess to resolve it since she cannot interfere, and is embarrassed to tell her the truth. That this is a lovers quarrel.
just throwing darts. Don’t mind me.
 
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a flashback just to show Reva was really dead??? i'm confused and jarred lol
 
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I wonder what people think of this series after 8 chapters ? do you think it's good or nay ?
(rating outta 10 maybe ?)
 
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... So anyone thinking the black mist might be Reeva trying to take revenge on the humans who killed her and blamed the demons...
 
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Idiot dont go in inner monologue before you've reached a safe place, you'll spatter across the floor AGAIN, act put up the act

Ooo never seen those weapons before, or such an important figure... It's like I'm rewatching arcane all over again
Oh it's the fairy thing in human form, yes I see you your not slick, I wonder if this hero was given a similar game before our mc, she just failed to sus out the culprit in time
I wonder if spades and miss hero... BRO YOU ARE NOT ALL MIGHT

Oh am I loving the LOOOOORE
So that's how they fought back in the beginning huh?

Love be battle frenzy characters but fem all might come on ya gotta respect the 1v1 and give her your name in return, it ain't bleach the the rules of honor aren't a goddamn myth, shouldn't take a threat of others lives to get ya to hand her yer name come on SQUARE DANCE

I don't think it's spades either guys...
I suspect whoever's controlling her, if there is someone or something then it's probably the person who finished off from all might as well, they don't seem to be so human friendly...

Have a nice day
 

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