Kumo desuga, Nani ka? - Ch. 77.1

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I'm pretty sure all the elves know what's going on and they're just evil bastards across the board.

The only one who didn't get the memo is the naive reincarnator who gets gaslighted her entire 2nd life by Potimas and the rest of the elves.

They don't all know, at least the whole plan. I'm not sure what distinction you're making here as to how morally corrupt the Elves as a whole race are when you say they're evil, if at all.

Most of them aren't aware of the full intentions and depravity of Potimas. They're all arrogant, they believe they're superior to all other races. They're skilled at deception, which is why gaslighting Oka is both easy and natural to them.

But most of them believe that they're saving the world and everyone in it from the System. They follow Potimas because they actually think he's going to lead them to that goal (of course, he isn't). Even though they despise the 'lesser races', they still believe they're saving them too.

That's relevant to the context of sacrificial pawns. As I said, they're loyal to Potimas because they don't really know. And so they don't know they're pawns to be sacrificed.

I think it's explained explicitly earlier or later in the story, I can't exactly remember when. But I'm certain it was, because this was something I was curious about years ago. But even without that, think about it. If the Elves are all evil, and all of them know Potimas's plans. Why would they follow him and willingly let him treat them like toilet paper to wipe up shit then get flushed away? They're brainwashed, not mind-controlled.
 
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Time to piss off people again: the MC is the spawn of an evil god with no moral compass and the demon lord is a completely mental mass murderer (who got brainwashed by the spider) - since everyone likes to talk about the evil elves so much, reminder that these aren't good guys either. The demons are right to revolt against the tyrant.
 
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Time to piss off people again: the MC is the spawn of an evil god with no moral compass and the demon lord is a completely mental mass murderer (who got brainwashed by the spider) - since everyone likes to talk about the evil elves so much, reminder that these aren't good guys either. The demons are right to revolt against the tyrant.
Why would people get mad, by all accounts you're correct.

Especally as the demons don't actually know why the war needs to keep happening.
 
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Time to piss off people again: the MC is the spawn of an evil god with no moral compass and the demon lord is a completely mental mass murderer (who got brainwashed by the spider) - since everyone likes to talk about the evil elves so much, reminder that these aren't good guys either. The demons are right to revolt against the tyrant.
People don't hate on Shiro and Ariel because their end goal justifies the means, through cruel deeds they are saving planet and everyone who are to live there after everything will be said and done, Potimas actively killing off the planet for his own goals, dooming everything on it but himself, when everyone is a bastard, you hate on the one who is worse
Beside, if not for Potimas, Ariel wouldn't even need to cause as many deaths as possible, so Shiro wouldn't do it either
 
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Time to piss off people again: the MC is the spawn of an evil god with no moral compass and the demon lord is a completely mental mass murderer (who got brainwashed by the spider) - since everyone likes to talk about the evil elves so much, reminder that these aren't good guys either. The demons are right to revolt against the tyrant.
I'm not a novel reader, and considering some of the differences I've heard about, good riddance, but it's really nothing like that.
We can just disregard D's character, because they're obviously not the same, even at conception (actual D vs her earthling cover identity), nevermind Shiro's development. And then most if not all of Shiro's most callous moments could be attributed to Pride's brainwashing. What's left over, especially post-godhood, is entirely unremarkable on the evil-good scale, more or less just a regular decent person.
Ariel could be considered totally fucked with her raging personal vendetta against humans, but then again she has self-restraint and what ultimately drives her towards war is how fucked the planet is and the fact that it's only getting worse with the main culprit still at large. Plus Shiro's influence is entirely innocuous without Pride, as I've said.
And then Potimas is an infant-murdering Captain Pollution. Way to fucking go trying to shift attention and blame away from this guy.

The demon population revolting in the midst of war preparations and drafts is understandable in terms of short-term self-preservation, but nothing more than that. Ariel is completely justified in waging it to save the planet.
 
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Wasn't elves clones of Potimas ?
They should all know that he is an evil bastard
From what I remember, he goes by the other version of cloning, where they brainwash descendants, or people get kidnapped and forced through numerous surgeries. Some of the top "clones" may have the implanted memories, and know that they are a piece of shit, but the rest are just being controlled remotely.
 
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Weird, that Ael praising so much, while Wrath can quite easy kill her even without his op skill. By that plot point he already just by stats should be around mother level.
 
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And then Potimas is an infant-murdering Captain Pollution. Way to fucking go trying to shift attention and blame away from this guy.
Geez, way to under play his love of his family /s . When his children he cooked up in the lab all had fatal defects, he knew he couldn't properly care for them so left them with the most powerful and loving angel he could. His continued lifes work indirectly resulted in the world essentially becoming a video game, resolving the childrens defects. His continued research resulted in one of his great grand-daughters, the MC, becoming a god due to the raw power produced by the schematics he designed. Can't you just see him drinking out of one of those "best dad" cups with "dad" hastily plastered over with "patriatical hierarch" surrounded by clapping half braindead and lobotomized elves? /s /s /s
 
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Geez, way to under play his love of his family /s . When his children he cooked up in the lab all had fatal defects, he knew he couldn't properly care for them so left them with the most powerful and loving angel he could. His continued lifes work indirectly resulted in the world essentially becoming a video game, resolving the childrens defects. His continued research resulted in one of his great grand-daughters, the MC, becoming a god due to the raw power produced by the schematics he designed. Can't you just see him drinking out of one of those "best dad" cups with "dad" hastily plastered over with "patriatical hierarch" surrounded by clapping half braindead and lobotomized elves? /s /s /s
I'm not reading all those spoilers. You probably misunderstood, but as I've said, I'm not a novel reader. I just meant his multiple attempts at killing Sophia.
 
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Weird, that Ael praising so much, while Wrath can quite easy kill her even without his op skill. By that plot point he already just by stats should be around mother level.
Nope. It's literally stated in this very chapter that without using Wrath his stats are down to 2k something.
 
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I miss the Demon Queen. She's my favorite character and Shiro has just left her behind in power and narratively.
 
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Time to piss off people again: the MC is the spawn of an evil god with no moral compass and the demon lord is a completely mental mass murderer (who got brainwashed by the spider) - since everyone likes to talk about the evil elves so much, reminder that these aren't good guys either. The demons are right to revolt against the tyrant.
this ain't true at all.
the story should explain. eventually
actually it was explained already in the past. the more people who die, the better for the planet. the demon lord is doing her best to save the world. even D is trying to save the world in her own way.
 
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