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@Will_Madden:

I keep thinking this of people lately on this site, but I'm not sure "wholesome" means what you think it means.
 
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@Pokari just because it is yuri doesnt mean it isnt wholesome, also its just a bit cute so it cleanses my head from the shit i read sometimes like redo of healer etc.
 
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@Will_Madden:

It was certainly not on account of being yuri that I was dubious of "wholesome" as an adjective. (See: my complaints that you were complaining about, above. Roughly, I felt the characters were kind of jerks).

Saying that it's "cute" kind of strikes at the core of this definition mis-match that I'm running into here, though, perhaps? "Cute" and "wholesome" are not at all the same thing.

This is a bit of a rant, but:

Consider dictionary definitions of wholesome (from wiktionary, which tends to give some of the least-questionable definitions compared to actual usage):
1. Promoting good physical health and well-being. [not relevant here XD]
2. Promoting moral and mental well-being.
3. Favourable to morals, religion or prosperity; sensible; conducive to good; salutary; promoting virtue or being virtuous.
4. Marked by wholeness; sound and healthy.

To denote a romance as wholesome is not to indicate merely that it is relaxing to read or that it makes the heart flutter; rather it suggests that, say, the characters are practicing good healthy relationship habits, or that it promotes mental or spiritual well-being, or that it demonstrates a whole and healthy family, or that the relationship is advanced with remarkably sound morals, or something to that effect.

In other words, not a word I'd be hasty to apply to a romance where the one character starts with intention of duplicity, and the other responds by what is objectively (without the rose-coloured filter of romance) sexual and verbal harassment, followed by lots of throwing insults at each other and blushing. Cute? Sure, why not. Wholesome? No, there is nothing remarkably wholesome about this.

So, yeah—my complaint is not at all about it being gay. Look, I've even been known to describe yaoi with rampant sex in it as "wholesome" on occasion, if the characters are demonstrating really healthy relationship habits (kindness and consideration and good communication and consent and so forth). There are, indeed, different ways something can be wholesome. But it is not a good all-purpose word for "thing that makes me feel happy". There are other perfectly serviceable words for that.

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@Will_Madden:

My dude. I am not sure what you were expecting when responding to someone who makes long and/or analytical posts. But let me tell you, what you get back is likely to be: More of the same.

As to the literal question of "why": Because you said something, for which I could not devise a simple and terse response that could sufficiently communicate all that I wanted to say.
 
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well, looks like this won't be getting updates any time soon. shame, I really wanted to read more of this. well, gonna leave a follow anyways
 
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That was good. I hope we'll see more.
Are you actually hoping? Idk what happened but the author no longer post anything on pixiv or x, I just checked, for almost 2 years. Too bad, I liked most of their works. Tho I guess it would be great if there is an update (But I heard that X would delete inactive account not sure how it meant but) not like I haven't waited for 2 years, I was able to wait for CoTE and some works that even now still hasn't updated.
 

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