Kuro no Senki II - Isekai Teni Shita Boku ga Saikyou na no wa Bed no Ue dake no You desu - Vol. 2 Ch. 5.2

[deathmailrock]

I don't self-insert as MC though, so eh.

Hell, I don't think the whole' MC is meant to be self-insert' is ever really true outside of explicitly 'make your character' stuffs.
Like do you want to be in charge of border defense with limited soldier against overwhelming number like he did?
Or having to deal with noble politics?

Is it really 'self-insert' if you only do so with cherry picked moments and the rest doesn't count?

Also as I said it fits with the running theme if anything.
MC has been picking up 'socially rejected' women left n right.
They just weren't 'ugly' enough for you to dislike before.

It's one thing to dislike certain fetish and another to just start going:


You could've just, y'know, DROP the series if that topic is sooooooo disgusting for you, but nope you're still here arguing like all you want is to vent how much you hate it and still read it anyway.

So basically, what you are saying is we can't hate a single plot point???

A person is not allowed to ever complain about a series and must think a series is perfect if they want to read it???

There is something toxic about that mentality.

And yes, there is a theme of socially rejected girls... but they were rejected while still technically being girls most men would want as wives. It was a status thing.... not a d***....

And obviously, I was joking about the "author burn" thing... it's a bit weird you are taking that so seriously.....

 

[WhimsiCat]

So basically, what you are saying is we can't hate a single plot point???

Except you weren't saying you hate the plot, you hated the fetish.

There is something toxic about that mentality.

To me at least, deciding to just sit around crying about what you hate seem to be the more toxic mentality
Rather than, y'know, just drop a series if it REALLY offends you so much by its plot point.

And yes, there is a theme of socially rejected girls... but they were rejected while still technically being girls most men would want as wives. It was a status thing.... not a d***....

You know you're basically repeating the reason that character had self-esteem issue almost to the letter?
Kinda ironic you see MC as supposedly 'self-insert' but speak with opposite attitude of him?

And obviously, I was joking about the "author burn" thing... it's a bit weird you are taking that so seriously.....

The rest of your posts made me doubt you were truly joking.

Here let me try making a 'joke' too:
'it's a bit weird' you're react to strongly to this it's almost like you're a closet homo sexual who's so in denial about wanting dick that your lash out.

 

[deathmailrock]

Except you weren't saying you hate the plot, you hated the fetish.


To me at least, deciding to just sit around crying about what you hate seem to be the more toxic mentality
Rather than, y'know, just drop a series if it REALLY offends you so much by its plot point.



You know you're basically repeating the reason that character had self-esteem issue almost to the letter?
Kinda ironic you see MC as supposedly 'self-insert' but speak with opposite attitude of him?



The rest of your posts made me doubt you were truly joking.

Here let me try making a 'joke' too:
'it's a bit weird' you're react to strongly to this it's almost like you're a closet homo sexual who's so in denial about wanting dick that your lash out.

See, you are now doing a personal attack.

First, this is the anime/manga community... and I have been copying the FFF from BakaTest since 2010 (I really recommend that show). You will understand a lot of my humor much better once you see that show.

And I can be disturbed about a SINGLE plot point in a series....

Like If I like 90% of a series, I can't complain about it???? I was following this series for 4 years, but a sudden different thing comes up that I don't like and I'm not allowed to have any complaint about that at all???

It's not like this is a futa series... it's just a future plot point.... and again, you say I'm speaking the opposite, but before this point, we had no futa warning.

Every single girl shown before were basic harem elements in most series....

Futa is one of the weirder fetishes... it's normal to be bothered by that... why are you so offended??? You are being way too offended by me disliking something.

If a person has an issue with a series as a whole, and complains every chapter, I understand telling them to not read.

But if a person has issues with one single plot point (just one chapter or arc or one single character alone) isn't it too much to tell them to drop it???

Most series will have one or 2 characters people won't approve of... that's normal in this community.

 

[WhimsiCat]

See, you are now doing a personal attack.

"It's just a joke bruh"

First, this is the anime/manga community... and I have been copying the FFF from BakaTest since 2010 (I really recommend that show). You will understand a lot of my humor much better once you see that show.

If your 'humor' needs someone to go look up something over 10 years ago, I think that's already a mark against it.

why are you so offended??? You are being way too offended by me disliking something.

And why are YOU so unable to let go of your fear of imaginary penis despite me repeating multiple times, even citing the manga itself, that there's nothing visible? Someone could make a fake translation that the person just have a nasty scar and you'd probably never know.

you say I'm speaking the opposite, but before this point, we had no futa warning.

I was saying despite how much you seem to (want to?) self-insert as MC, you're ironically reacting with the opposite personality to him. Especially with your seemingly diehard disgust with just the idea of it.

 

[deathmailrock]

"It's just a joke bruh"



If your 'humor' needs someone to go look up something over 10 years ago, I think that's already a mark against it.



And why are YOU so unable to let go of your fear of imaginary penis despite me repeating multiple times, even citing the manga itself, that there's nothing visible? Someone could make a fake translation that the person just have a nasty scar and you'd probably never know.



I was saying despite how much you seem to (want to?) self-insert as MC, you're ironically reacting with the opposite personality to him. Especially with your seemingly diehard disgust with just the idea of it.

I'm not fearing it, I'm just disliking it and thinking of it as negative...

And I can be disgusted with it... because I'm self inserting.... so when he does an act I wouldn't do or like to do, of course it'd be disturbing.

Every other moment for the past 4 years matched normal perverted moments and didn't touch on a weird fetish before what you mentioned. Isn't it normal to be bothered by that???

And it's not missing the mark, it's called a persona. And many series still do those kinda jokes (even "Reincarnated as a slime" and "Konosuba")

And no, you weren't making a joke.

You are genuinely angry at me for not liking a fetish....

You are offended that I kinda feel disgust that a futa is joining the harem... which is not a good reason to hate a person.

We all have different sexual preferences....

The fact that you can't understand that a person can feel bothered that a fetish that goes against another fetish suddenly appearing out of nowhere can be disturbing to another fetish just makes you feel like you lack understanding.

If a gay harem series targeting gay people suddenly out of nowhere added a random woman, many of the people reading that story would feel disturbed, because they are expecting one fetish and the story lead to that one fetish and they would be disturbed that a random contrary fetish that doesn't fit the rest coming out of nowhere would be disturbing.

Not hating on futas themselves. Not thinking that there shouldn't be futa material. For the fans, it's great and they deserve to enjoy it....

But if you aren't a fan and you don't expect it, you are going to be disturbed....

That's how fetishes work....

If a fetish I love suddenly comes out of nowhere, while I'd be overjoyed, I'd also understand if a person would not be comfortable with the series.

and I have to read myself before I judge. But you shouldn't be over judging towards people feeling bothered by something suddenly coming up or be angry that they dislike a plot point.

If you want to be understood, you should be willing to understand others.

Note that my comments are all about the hate you have towards me. You on the other hand are commenting towards me because I don't like a plot point that might come up.

Why do I have to like the plot point??? Why do I have to approve of a character or choice in a story??? That should be my freedom.

And we could disagree, maybe have a quick comment over it (that's what this is for).... but it should never get into the territory of hatred or anger....

As the golden rule for fetish lovers: Never force your fetish on another

 

[WhimsiCat]

And I can be disgusted with it... because I'm self inserting.... so when he does an act I wouldn't do or like to do, of course it'd be disturbing.

So it's a consequence of your own choice and you're now whining about it, k.

Reminder that this is what you said first:

If that's true..... author should burn....

I'm not against that sh*t per-say.... but I am against mixing and ruining fetishes....

You gotta give an early warning for fetish like that so we could drop early....

You got the 'early warning'
Still haven't dropped it despite how much your apparent dislike of it.
It's almost like you're just whining for the sake of it.

And no, you weren't making a joke.

You are genuinely angry at me for not liking a fetish....

"It's just a persona bruh"

The fact that you can't understand that a person can feel bothered that a fetish that goes against another fetish suddenly appearing out of nowhere can be disturbing to another fetish just makes you feel like you lack understanding.

And by your own initial statement, the 'correct' action to do is drop the series not stay around whining about it.
So maybe follow what you preach?

You are offended that I kinda feel disgust that a futa is joining the harem... which is not a good reason to hate a person.

We all have different sexual preferences....

I'm mocking the degree of dislike you have and seemingly the need to try and 'convince' me futa is disgusting that you've kept replying and repeating about it.

The fact that you can't understand that a person can feel bothered that a fetish that goes against another fetish suddenly appearing out of nowhere can be disturbing to another fetish just makes you feel like you lack understanding.

If a gay harem series targeting gay people suddenly out of nowhere added a random woman, many of the people reading that story would feel disturbed, because they are expecting one fetish and the story lead to that one fetish and they would be disturbed that a random contrary fetish that doesn't fit the rest coming out of nowhere would be disturbing.

Sexual preference is fetish now?
Also I don't judge a series by whether it 'mix fetishes' (nevermind we've had milf, slave, elf, anal, etc which would have their own tags in various sites) I judge by whether the story make its development understandable.
p.s. You know 'gay' just means homosexual, i.e. not limited to men, right?

If you want to be understood, you should be willing to understand others.

Yet you couldn't do it after seeing a 4 letters word. Your reaction wasn't being on the fence due to lack of details, it was immediate rejection of that idea.

Note that my comments are all about the hate you have towards me. You on the other hand are commenting towards me because I don't like a plot point that might come up.

Nah, mockery, not hate, if anything.

As the golden rule for fetish lovers: Never force your fetish on another

Reading this series is your choice.
Continuing to read is your choice.
Self-inserting as MC was your choice.
There's nothing forcing you to stick around to read/see it.

By your own standard, wouldn't you complaining about what 'author's fetish' be in a sense you forcing your fetish onto them?

And we could disagree, maybe have a quick comment over it (that's what this is for).... but it should never get into the territory of hatred or anger....

Anger like how your first post was? If you come out swinging you shouldn't be surprised that the reaction isn't mild.

 

[deathmailrock]

So it's a consequence of your own choice and you're now whining about it, k.
By your own standard, wouldn't you complaining about what 'author's fetish' be in a sense you forcing your fetish onto them?

Anger like how your first post was? If you come out swinging you shouldn't be surprised that the reaction isn't mild.

My reaction was comic anger towards an idea, not anger towards an actual person (I said author, but I was joking and even sourced where my jokes came from)

I was a fan disliking a plot point of a story, you are a person being offended by a fans personal taste and dislike.... there is a huge difference.

Also, the author is allowed their own fetishes... but it did come out of nowhere...

Remember, this series is half porn (not fully porn, but a smut).... so a huge reason we are reading this story is the smuttiness....

And mixing porn without a proper tag is a big no no....

That's why almost every porn site and smut site for novels put clear warning... and these kinda.... things....

Less than hating on the idea of futa, I'm more disgusted about it being done with me.... and because I've been reading this story for YEARS, I already kinda got into it...

If I was hating on a real person, I'd understand your reaction.

If I was repeatedly hounding this series over and over for several arcs, sure, your reaction would make sense.

But your being too defensive about me not sharing your fetish.

And if you jokingly argued with me to defend your fetish like a true fan, I would love it... we fetish fans do that....

And we fetish fans are often more protective of our fetishes, that's fine....

We wouldn't be otaku if we weren't..... but your offense towards me is way to unwanted...

This is supposed to be a place where we can dislike a plot point without being shamed. Where we can have our complaints shared without being hated on.

If this was a complaint towards a real person, I would 100% understand you...

If this was a complaint towards a genre and I chose this story from the start expecting this fetish, I would understand....
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It's like how I treat gay people. If gay guys kiss each other, great. I support them. When a gay man tries to kiss me, it disgusts me...

But again, that disgust is only when it's done towards me.... if they don't try to kiss me, I would gladly be their friend and be there for them (how I lost one of my gay friends; he got to handsy for my liking; if they just confessed properly, I'd have rejected them but still been friends).

So I'm not hating the futa, I'm hating the porn..... as in it's fine for the fans who want it (not saying it should be banned), but it'd gross me out if I had to watch it.

Are you able to at least understand that??? Can you at least try to understand where I'm coming from and how I'm seeing this????

 

[WhimsiCat]

My reaction was comic anger towards an idea, not anger towards an actual person (I said author, but I was joking and even sourced where my jokes came from)

Which you only clarified later, and still not a joke I get or care to go read a series just to get the joke.

If I was repeatedly hounding this series over and over for several arcs, sure, your reaction would make sense.

At this point given how much you've 'hounded' this topic for several posts I think my reaction has gotten the point of 'make sense'

But your being too defensive about me not sharing your fetish.

You assumed I want/like futa just because I disagreed with you.

Have the thought of me being on the 'don't care' side ever occur? Author put a thing in there, I saw it, thought 'okay then' and read on.

This is supposed to be a place where we can dislike a plot point without being shamed. Where we can have our complaints shared without being hated on.

If this was a complaint towards a real person, I would 100% understand you...

Literally your joke was 'author would burn'

It's the internet, I don't know you and there's been enough crazies who actually do go on and harm real people (Kyoto Anime's arson for example) that the joke is nowhere 'funny'

It's like how I treat gay people. If gay guys kiss each other, great. I support them. When a gay man tries to kiss me, it disgusts me...

And in this case you chose to imagine yourself as a guy you thought was hetero, then when he turns out to be bi you took offense for HIS action.

So I'm not hating the futa, I'm hating the porn..... as in it's fine for the fans who want it (not saying it should be banned), but it'd gross me out if I had to watch it.

Are you able to at least understand that??? Can you at least try to understand where I'm coming from and how I'm seeing this????

Which again is just the consequence of you choosing to self-insert as MC.
So now when he, a different person from you, chose to do her, YOU took offense as if it was done to you.

And even though I said you won't see 'it' you still kept going.

So yes I know what you're saying since that seem to be the only note you ever harp on.
But I ALSO still don't have any sympathy for it either.

 

[Georgeorat]

So...some 'interesting' stuffs coming up

Spoiler: 2

There's gonna be a futa

Now, from this point on I would like to know more.
Because outside of porn(which I enjoy) they are used rarely, and only as a gag point(as far as I encountered), so I wanna know if this one does things with some thought

 

[WhimsiCat]

Now, from this point on I would like to know more.
Because outside of porn(which I enjoy) they are used rarely, and only as a gag point(as far as I encountered), so I wanna know if this one does things with some thought

Well, here's the run down of events

Spoiler

She get introduced as male crossdresser who's into guy during the party.
Tried to hit on Kurono, he freaked out at the approach initially (less no homo and more like 'whoa why're you suddenly sexually harassing me' sort of panic) but the princess step in to help him.
Kurono eventually agree to at least be friend.
As put it, he won't accept the (sexual) invitation, but it's not to the degree he'd run away.

Then later on she snuck into his room and push him down.
Here is when she reveal herself to be futa.
Kurono, being reincarnated, thought 'ok this world has elves, lizardmen, beastmen, etc so I guess futa probably isn't that weird of a thing'

Then he noticed a scar near her chest , she explained it's from her attempt to cut off her breast in the past.
Because the church her parents believe in treat futa like her as abnormal being, just like half-elves.

Kurono then ask 'so, why me?'
Well, BECAUSE she saw him having a half-elf as his mistress, she held some hope that he might also accept her.

At first he asked what'll happen if he refuse, she listed with a lot of censor what happened to the previous cases who rejected her.
He started panicking about basically being forced into this.

Here her bold facade started to crumble and she practically begged him.
This 'cute face' got him hard.
Kurono show his erect penis to prove to her he's not lying about her getting him hard. "I'll have you know, I once did it 6 times in one night, and for this past 10 days I've been holding it back"
seggs

And that's the last scene with the futa for now

 

[Georgeorat]

Well, here's the run down of events

Spoiler

She get introduced as male crossdresser who's into guy during the party.
Tried to hit on Kurono, he freaked out at the approach initially (less no homo and more like 'whoa why're you suddenly sexually harassing me' sort of panic) but the princess step in to help him.
Kurono eventually agree to at least be friend.
As put it, he won't accept the (sexual) invitation, but it's not to the degree he'd run away.

Then later on she snuck into his room and push him down.
Here is when she reveal herself to be futa.
Kurono, being reincarnated, thought 'ok this world has elves, lizardmen, beastmen, etc so I guess futa probably isn't that weird of a thing'

Then he noticed a scar near her chest , she explained it's from her attempt to cut off her breast in the past.
Because the church her parents believe in treat futa like her as abnormal being, just like half-elves.

Kurono then ask 'so, why me?'
Well, BECAUSE she saw him having a half-elf as his mistress, she held some hope that he might also accept her.

At first he asked what'll happen if he refuse, she listed with a lot of censor what happened to the previous cases who rejected her.
He started panicking about basically being forced into this.

Here her bold facade started to crumble and she practically begged him.
This 'cute face' got him hard.
Kurono show his erect penis to prove to her he's not lying about her getting him hard. "I'll have you know, I once did it 6 times in one night, and for this past 10 days I've been holding it back"
seggs

And that's the last scene with the futa for now

Good, want, gimme.

 

[JustAU-]

I'm lost so who was he to the family before he was adopted by the dad

He seemed close enough to be with Elua while she was dying

 

[frubam]

I don't know how a non-combatant that falls to her knees during a fight(yeah I know it was because of her fear from her past) is going to kill another noble with that puny little butterknife =0v. And even if she does succeed in killing him discreetly somehow, doesn't she care about what will happen to Kurono and his entourage(obv she won't care about herself)?