Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 43 - Keisuke-kun... seeing me that way... I’m just overthinking it... Right?

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Drama > realism I guess

Can't really say which had more stories where the "more interesting" girl won than the "innocent" one, but I am definitely bored with these "I can fix her" stuff
kusunoki is anything but realistic, at least hebikawa makes more sense because she is an actual character with her own strength and weakness. anything kusunoki does is cute, saint-like, she also happens to be smart, can do sport as well, also can be immediately given a starting role in the drama even though we're led to believe she's supposed to be very shy but somehow despite all of that she struggled to get friends. so what even does she bring to the story?
 
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kusunoki is anything but realistic, at least hebikawa makes more sense because she is an actual character with her own strength and weakness. anything kusunoki does is cute, saint-like, she also happens to be smart, can do sport as well, also can be immediately given a starting role in the drama even though we're led to believe she's supposed to be very shy but somehow despite all of that she struggled to get friends. so what even does she bring to the story?
She's the FMC and her name's in the title, and the usual formula for this genre is that she's slated to "win" as a result regardless of the quality of writing as it pertains to her character.

At least that's the general sense I get reading through comments on each chapter here, plus on Reddit.

Also - she's supposedly bad at making friends and had to rely on Keisuke for "communication skills workshop sessions" at the start of the series, but it seems every time she starts a conversation with someone they immediately fall for her. So.
 
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Thanks for the translation!

Even after 27ish years of watching anime/reading manga, I have the exact same reaction as Kusunoki to passionate "shippers" lol. I'm not rooting for anyone, I'm just here for the ride.

Gotta love when the MC is just living their life and some busybody friend of the FMC throws their dynamic into turmoil lol.
 
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Wow, progress, some authors could learn about how to not make obvious when a character likes someone, but it was actually backfiring.
 
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She's the FMC and her name's in the title, and the usual formula for this genre is that she's slated to "win" as a result regardless of the quality of writing as it pertains to her character.

At least that's the general sense I get reading through comments on each chapter here, plus on Reddit.

Also - she's supposedly bad at making friends and had to rely on Keisuke for "communication skills workshop sessions" at the start of the series, but it seems every time she starts a conversation with someone they immediately fall for her. So.

Otobe has gap moe Tomboy-hitting-puberty energy.
Hebikawa has that bad girl "I can fix her" with a complex backstory.
both are going to attract more fan attention than our main girl who is socially awkward but in a realistic and not a adorable girl-failure one.
And in both their cases their primary narrative conflicts directly related and bring them into.... "opposition" might be the wrong word, but they have narrative conflicts that Keisuke is a key component of, so they have more dynamic interactions with him.

Kusunoki is a absolute cutie cinnabon bun but in addition to clearly being the fated winner, but as stated above she's just sort of awkward. If she was a girl-failure with over the top events she'd probably be more well liked, but all of her conflicts are very normal and, imho, have some of the best resolutions... but they are very comfortable instead of dramatic.

To your point, she's supposed to be bad at communicating but the minute she does communicate everything gets neatly resolved, and she hasn't had to rely on Keisuke for moral support for at least a whole volume at this point.

Its almost like there are two separate manga; Kusunoki is having a comfortable highschool debut SoL, Keisuke is having a harem soap opera drama with a mysterious snakegirl.
 
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"Ookami Shounen wa Kyou mo Uso o Kasaneru" is the series she's from.

sadly just saying "Botan" in this context kinda gives away the ending of the manga. It's a romcom crossdressing manga involving the ML and an androphobic love interest, but I think the story holds up well enough on its own that even with the contextually-spoiled ending, it's a quite enjoyable (and not too long) read.
Read the whole series and I'm back, it was really good 👍

Honestly, Botan-chan just made the most sense in this story. Sure he liked Tokujira-san first, but I feel like it was mostly do to a misunderstanding

Botan-chan actively helped him grow as a person and Itsuki came to have genuine feelings for who Botan-chan actually is

Anyway, Otobe-chan should win
 
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If Hebikawa (or Otobe) does that here....then she'd just be Botaning it
If Otobe does that, she would indeed be Botaning it, because her role is very similar to that of Botan. Hebikawa is an antagonist who starts on a very low footing with Keisuke, that's quite a different set of circumstances compared to Botan's. Her possible victory might be considered a subset of Botaning, but there'd be enough notability and distinction to it to be considered Hebikawing
 
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Otobe has gap moe Tomboy-hitting-puberty energy.
Hebikawa has that bad girl "I can fix her" with a complex backstory.
both are going to attract more fan attention than our main girl who is socially awkward but in a realistic and not a adorable girl-failure one.
And in both their cases their primary narrative conflicts directly related and bring them into.... "opposition" might be the wrong word, but they have narrative conflicts that Keisuke is a key component of, so they have more dynamic interactions with him.

Kusunoki is a absolute cutie cinnabon bun but in addition to clearly being the fated winner, but as stated above she's just sort of awkward. If she was a girl-failure with over the top events she'd probably be more well liked, but all of her conflicts are very normal and, imho, have some of the best resolutions... but they are very comfortable instead of dramatic.

To your point, she's supposed to be bad at communicating but the minute she does communicate everything gets neatly resolved, and she hasn't had to rely on Keisuke for moral support for at least a whole volume at this point.

Its almost like there are two separate manga; Kusunoki is having a comfortable highschool debut SoL, Keisuke is having a harem soap opera drama with a mysterious snakegirl.
The "two separate manga" bit is a nice encapsulation of how I've felt about this one for a few chapters now.

To my original point, I personally just find Kusunoki more "flat" than the other two. You put it very charitably, but as a story, her arc is very simple, whereas the other three have much more growth to accomplish if they're to reach the same end point of resolution as Kusunoki.

And she's written to be kind of "perfect" - amazing at sports, perfect grades, gets the lead role of her first play and executes it flawlessly, and makes friends the moment she opens her mouth, even if they were standoffish toward her before.
The only conflict she has is her awkwardness, and honestly until we get the reason she regressed in middle school, it feels somewhat forced as far as narrative devices because she's so naturally talented in every facet that matters for school life that, without an explanation, her being so unconfident seems at odds with her actual ability.

Compared to the others, she's completed her story. And this chapter feels like the author realized that and needed some way to pull her back into the fold with the other three - there was no way to do that using the established characters, and so brand new ones were invented to plant the idea of romance in Kusunoki's head, so that at least Otobe could come along and pick up that ball and lure Kusunoki back toward Keisuke.

Which....almost feels like a disservice to Keisuke lol - he couldn't do it on his own with all his effort, and it took Students #13 & #22 along with the person she did the play with to even make her aware of him. But that's all an aside.
 
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Even the  site agrees with me...
 
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If I had a dollar for every time I saw manga readers call the sweetheart girl boring and the mean girl with the twisted personality interesting, I’d be in a comfortable financial situation.

Thanks for the chapter!
FMC is Bland as Water and thats the only thing i can say about her. Hell, i couldnt even remember her Name if it werent shoved in the Title because of how forgettable she is.
 
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Even the  site agrees with me...
At this point I have to wonder if you're just mad or jealous that other people engage with and enjoy content differently than you, seeing as you're finding it so difficult to just let this go.

Yes, yes, you're very special and smart for figuring out that the person whose name is in the title will have the successful romance arc of the romcom manga. I'm sorry that other people aren't as cool as you are and that they like to discuss things in-depth and wish in vain that their side ships would see success, but I fail to see how the existence of any of this is so detrimental to you that you'd come back and repeat your insult in such a roundabout way.
 
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Around a week ago, the author asked through Twitter who people's favorite girls are and the vote went overwhemingly to Hebikawa even the author acknowledged it and Kusunoki had even fewer votes than Otobe. Not surprising though since Kusunoki is fucking boring.
The only thing that doesn't make me like Kunosaki so much is that I hate characters who are too perfect. She has a problem socializing at the beginning of the story, but it's resolved extremely easily and she already has a lot of friends and is talking normally. Besides being extremely good at everything, it makes her totally unrealistic and difficult to see her as someone human. The other two girls are much more human and easy to connect with, unlike her.
 
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Am I in the minority of wanting the MC to "drown in the deep", but rise from it by himself? Given how he has enough self respect to know what snake girl is capable of, how is aware of himself, and how obvious things are going with MC definitely going to feel some love pains, I think he can get up by himself and find a new understanding through it all.

Or not, and now FMC is probably going to do something...
Drown on the deep, but rise from it? Okay Rhulk.
 

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