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To be honest, she doesn't really seem that bad, she's not comically evil, she's the kind of evil you see in teenagers, lol. She'll grow out of it.
To be fair, why would you reach out to someone who, in her own admission, wasn't a big deal? I could still see his reasoning.Blackmail using the fact that he used to be fat?
I'll chalk it up to teenage insecurity.
If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.But I can also see from this that Hebikawa may not be AS bad as thought. She is still not great, but she makes a great point: she has always been the same he just wanted to see something different. It also seems she most likely doesn't remember what she said to her friends and she can't seem to get why he is avoiding her. She also didn't pry too far into things with him, even if she didn't remember.
Yeah, she still has that air of being mean/rude, but she handled the whole situation better than I thought she would. I definitely don't dislike her as much as I did prior to this.
Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.
As for not prying into him, it's the opposite. She became more interested in him. Remember her getting on top of him in the infirmary and demanding to know what he was hiding? Idk how you can say that she didn't pry too far into things.
I think I like hebikawa now
Thank you, this is the exact same thing I thought about his "trauma"Tbh most of his trauma just seems too overblown and self-grandiose. Like what happened to him is such a great injustice to him. And it makes him come off as really pathetic. I'm trying to have sympathy (not empathy because I just can't put myself in his shoes because I definitely would have handled this a lot differently at his age) but it's really hard to not be annoyed at his attitude.
You are acting like she owes it to him to be nice, is it not the MC's problem if he took whatever interactions they had more than what it was. Is it not a troupe that some protagonist get "trauma" from a rejection too? I want to make it clear that I am not defending Hebikawa actions, but the reactions I am seeing is so funny to me that everyone treating her like some super villian but whats shes done so far has been so very tame. To me this series is about an MC who reacted to the "extreme".If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.
As for not prying into him, it's the opposite. She became more interested in him. Remember her getting on top of him in the infirmary and demanding to know what he was hiding? Idk how you can say that she didn't pry too far into things.
I think that's an unlikely interpretation of her motives based on what we know so far, but even if it's true, that's still a very harsh thing to say, even if she's just trying to fit in. I still think she used him.Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.
She could easily end up bullied and stigmatized herself is she openly took his side.
There it is. even when you are legitimately bullied by a woman, there’s no way people will ever accepted as fact. And they will jump through hoops to somehow make the male victim into the person who caused the whole thing.Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.
She could easily end up bullied and stigmatized herself is she openly took his side.
While it's good point that you never know what affects people how - I'd say the way Shizuki keeps holding onto it for years to the point of physical nausea is really unhealthy and bad for him as well. Both the "perfect" Hebikawa he was infatuated with or the "evil" one were created in his head and he couldn't let go.
He literally puked because she was close, that is not a "trauma" with quotesThank you, this is the exact same thing I thought about his "trauma"
He really is making a bigger deal out of that than it should be
If someone said something about me behind my back, I'd just won't talk to them anymore, not develop some weird "trauma" that causes me to want to puke whenever the opposite sex interacts with me, that's just weird ass behavior and something like that deserves a visit to a psychiatrist
Of course she doesn't owe it to him to be nice. But don't be nice to someone and then talk shit about them behind their back. That makes you a shitty two-faced person.You are acting like she owes it to him to be nice, is it not the MC's problem if he took whatever interactions they had more than what it was.