Kusunoki's Flunking Her High School Glow-Up - Vol. 4 Ch. 24 - I was hopelessly in love with you

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Blackmail using the fact that he used to be fat? :question:
I'll chalk it up to teenage insecurity.
To be fair, why would you reach out to someone who, in her own admission, wasn't a big deal? I could still see his reasoning.

Case in point, this greatly illustrates how what we say unknowingly can have detrimental effects on other people, even if we do not intend any malice.

Edit: I'm seeing some hate with the MC from some of the comments here. There might be a misunderstanding on his side, idk, but I will not take away the fact that he was hurt.
And let me remind you that he did not lashed out to her like some incel. He gave effort to improve himself and decided to steer away from her. At least acknowledge the work he put into.
 
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Thanks for the translation..
I'm really curious about hebikawa the way she can changes emotion really quick, mean she also got a hidden thing or two.. background arc when? :D
 
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But I can also see from this that Hebikawa may not be AS bad as thought. She is still not great, but she makes a great point: she has always been the same he just wanted to see something different. It also seems she most likely doesn't remember what she said to her friends and she can't seem to get why he is avoiding her. She also didn't pry too far into things with him, even if she didn't remember.

Yeah, she still has that air of being mean/rude, but she handled the whole situation better than I thought she would. I definitely don't dislike her as much as I did prior to this.
If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.

As for not prying into him, it's the opposite. She became more interested in him. Remember her getting on top of him in the infirmary and demanding to know what he was hiding? Idk how you can say that she didn't pry too far into things.
 
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For those who bashed me in the comments for my take on Hebikawa few chapters back, lol I called it, she just doesn't give a shit and why should she. Most of the issues the MC had/has was majority self inflicted. Hebikawa was the catalyst that made him change for the "better" (in his own mind) he was the one who was obessed with her, and took her words deeper, but to Hebikawa it was just an off-comment, sure she was a dick but like I said before who hasn't talked shit before. Hebikawa has her own self-interest, ideals and goals. I still think the MC more of a dick to the tomboy than Hebikawa has been to the MC (well whats been shown) everything could still change if someshit get added later or whatever.
 
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If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.

As for not prying into him, it's the opposite. She became more interested in him. Remember her getting on top of him in the infirmary and demanding to know what he was hiding? Idk how you can say that she didn't pry too far into things.
Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.
She could easily end up bullied and stigmatized herself is she openly took his side.

While it's good point that you never know what affects people how - I'd say the way Shizuki keeps holding onto it for years to the point of physical nausea is really unhealthy and bad for him as well. Both the "perfect" Hebikawa he was infatuated with or the "evil" one were created in his head and he couldn't let go.
 
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MC: "You're not the person I liked anymore"

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Tbh most of his trauma just seems too overblown and self-grandiose. Like what happened to him is such a great injustice to him. And it makes him come off as really pathetic. I'm trying to have sympathy (not empathy because I just can't put myself in his shoes because I definitely would have handled this a lot differently at his age) but it's really hard to not be annoyed at his attitude.
Thank you, this is the exact same thing I thought about his "trauma"


He really is making a bigger deal out of that than it should be


If someone said something about me behind my back, I'd just won't talk to them anymore, not develop some weird "trauma" that causes me to want to puke whenever the opposite sex interacts with me, that's just weird ass behavior and something like that deserves a visit to a psychiatrist
 
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If Hebikawa had just been nice to him, he fell in love with her, confessed to her, and she rejected him because she was never interested in him in that way, sure, you could say that he wanted to see something different, or whatever. But that's not the case. She straight up admitted to her friends that she was only nice to him in order to make herself look better. She used him out of pure self-interest. He thought she actually cared about him as a person, unlike all the other people who didn't like him, but actually she was worse. She betrayed him.

As for not prying into him, it's the opposite. She became more interested in him. Remember her getting on top of him in the infirmary and demanding to know what he was hiding? Idk how you can say that she didn't pry too far into things.
You are acting like she owes it to him to be nice, is it not the MC's problem if he took whatever interactions they had more than what it was. Is it not a troupe that some protagonist get "trauma" from a rejection too? I want to make it clear that I am not defending Hebikawa actions, but the reactions I am seeing is so funny to me that everyone treating her like some super villian but whats shes done so far has been so very tame. To me this series is about an MC who reacted to the "extreme".

She was interested/curious in him due to the fact there is some person she doesn't know blatantly does not want anything to do with her, that and this person is friends with seemingly with the "ideal" person you want to be. From her goals alone wanting to be the "perfect" person its reasonable she wants to gain knowledge of whats going on. The moment she understood the reasonings she stopped caring. Like the MC believes she was gonna blackmail or whatever his perception of Hebikawa is so warped, hes already deluding thoughts on possiblities.
 
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Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.
She could easily end up bullied and stigmatized herself is she openly took his side.
I think that's an unlikely interpretation of her motives based on what we know so far, but even if it's true, that's still a very harsh thing to say, even if she's just trying to fit in. I still think she used him.
 
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Or she was nice to him because she wanted to be nice - but Shizuki was clearly stigmatized and bullied.
She could easily end up bullied and stigmatized herself is she openly took his side.

While it's good point that you never know what affects people how - I'd say the way Shizuki keeps holding onto it for years to the point of physical nausea is really unhealthy and bad for him as well. Both the "perfect" Hebikawa he was infatuated with or the "evil" one were created in his head and he couldn't let go.
There it is. even when you are legitimately bullied by a woman, there’s no way people will ever accepted as fact. And they will jump through hoops to somehow make the male victim into the person who caused the whole thing.

There is always one of you. Always. Every Fucking time.
 
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Just confess to Kusunoki and Hebikawa can't do anything. She got nothing
 
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Thank you, this is the exact same thing I thought about his "trauma"


He really is making a bigger deal out of that than it should be


If someone said something about me behind my back, I'd just won't talk to them anymore, not develop some weird "trauma" that causes me to want to puke whenever the opposite sex interacts with me, that's just weird ass behavior and something like that deserves a visit to a psychiatrist
He literally puked because she was close, that is not a "trauma" with quotes
 
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You are acting like she owes it to him to be nice, is it not the MC's problem if he took whatever interactions they had more than what it was.
Of course she doesn't owe it to him to be nice. But don't be nice to someone and then talk shit about them behind their back. That makes you a shitty two-faced person.

I'm not saying she's a super villain; of course she isn't. But all these comments of "dude she's really not that bad", what? This chapter has just reinforced what we already knew, that she was two-faced in middle school. Whether the MC's trauma or extreme reactions to her are justified is a totally different issue. The fact is, she was two-faced towards him in middle school. And she's not apologising for that. She said it herself that she doesn't even remember what she said. So she was two-faced and considers that such unremarkable behaviour that it's not worth remembering. Definitely a much shittier person than Kusunoki, and worse than MC.
 

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