Kuzu Rouninsei, Jinsei ga Tsurai no de Yoru no Onee-san wo Yondemita - Ch. 83 - Fight With the Scumbag

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Hard to defend Mashiro here when she was quite literally legs spread, presenting herself to another woman. Even if she has the confidence and the lack of embarrassment to do such a thing without thinking of the connotations, it's pretty unreasonable to blame Makino for being worried and thinking something far different is going on especially when she knew Makino was already jealous/cautious of Hotaru
 
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Poor Kouhai haha. She's so innocent. That wasn't the best choice of words and carries some hurtful implications. I'm glad Makino recognizes how those words could reflect her trust and assumptions about Mashiro's past work.

Mashiro clearly didn't see helping Kouhai as a big deal or anything secret, judging by her happy explanation and casual greeting of Makino. She has her boundaries and isn't a cheater, but they aren't on the same page there and need to talk things through.

As I mentioned before, they didn't have a good discussion a few chapters ago and that needs to be remedied, to prevent future miscommunication. They'll figure it out, like always. They're both good people and madly in love.
 
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And so begins the drama.

Like cmon bruh...

There wasnt anything wrong necsssarily with being potentially concerned that your gf may cheat, and yet the gf controls the scenario? Aint no way...

Yes we know technically there's no cheating at play, but this, as someone mentioned before is a betrayal of trust... I know communication gets thrown around like a shoe fits all, but genuinely, it wouldve helped so much here.

I goddamn hope this isnt the beginning of the downfall, and that it will somehow handle this well...
 
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Annnd the author makes Makino say something mean to make her the unambiguous bad guy in the argument so we don’t have to deal with Mashiro essentially going behind her back when Makino SAID this girl made her uncomfortable and outright just showing her pussy to said girl. I’m gonna be real that pisses me off quite a bit. Mashiro was unambiguously in the wrong at the end of the last chapter and now she’ll be treated as totally justified because the author had Makino say mean things.
 
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I can't describe how much i hate the ass backwards logic of this chapter 😐

Is that Scumbag(Mashiro) really getting mad at Makino RIGHTFULLY getting upset ?
Of course she'd fucking see you like that, not because you did health delivery, BUT because you did health delivery and are flashing ur damn privates at a girl alone inside ur home 😑

She isn't even seeing anything wrong with that , author really overcooked that one title said "Fight with the Scumbag", though Mashiro is clearly the one at fault here, guess it's even worse than it being swept under the rug.. by turning it on Makino instead and Mashiro just walking away like she's innocent
 
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Mashiro clearly didn't see helping Kouhai as a big deal, judging by her explanation and casual greeting of Makino. She has her boundaries and isn't a cheater, but they aren't on the same page there and need to talk things through.

As I mentioned before, they didn't have a good discussion a few chapters ago
I mean you are completely wrong tho. I don't want to front but could it be that you missed some chapters? Makino was as confronting and clear as humanly possible just some chapters ago.

Mashiro was informed that her GIRLFRIEND didn't like her being close 1on1 meeting up at actual date spots (the 1on1 dinner or the 1on1 at home) with another lesbian.
Mashiro then went behind her gf's back KNOWINGLY and exchanged numbers while being aware of what she is doing, then when the other lesbian waited for a chance they agreed to her coming over when the girlfriend isn't home. To then show of her vagina to another lesbian woman that the gf is clearly communicated uncomfortable with.

Makino was as clear as it gets. Literally a feral dog defending its bone. But the bone fully disregarded everything she told her and now is deflecting.

The deflecting makes this worse IMO. Mashiro is no victim here and her gaslighting Makino into this "you be demonizing" mindset is insane. TBH, Mashiro and the Kouhai are massive cheating assholes here. This was vile and planned.
 
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And so begins the drama.

Like cmon bruh...

There wasnt anything wrong necsssarily with being potentially concerned that your gf may cheat, and yet the gf controls the scenario? Aint no way...

Yes we know technically there's no cheating at play, but this, as someone mentioned before is a betrayal of trust... I know communication gets thrown around like a shoe fits all, but genuinely, it wouldve helped so much here.

I goddamn hope this isnt the beginning of the downfall, and that it will somehow handle this well...
Honestly, no matter how much you trust your Partner you wouldn't want them flash their privates at anyone under any circumstances 😐

That's just common sense, but author forgot to give Mashiro any of that 🥲
 
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I mean you are completely wrong tho. I don't want to front but could it be that you missed some chapters? Makino was as confronting and clear as humanly possible just some chapters ago.

Mashiro was informed that her GIRLFRIEND didn't like her being close 1on1 meeting up at actual date spots (the 1on1 dinner or the 1on1 at home) with another lesbian.
Mashiro then went behind her gf's back KNOWINGLY and exchanged numbers while being aware of what she is doing, then when the other lesbian waited for a chance they agreed to her coming over when the girlfriend isn't home. To then show of her vagina to another lesbian woman that the gf is clearly communicated uncomfortable with.

Makino was as clear as it gets. Literally a feral dog defending its bone. But the bone fully disregarded everything she told her and now is deflecting.

The deflecting makes this worse IMO. Mashiro is no victim here and her gaslighting Makino into this "you be demonizing" mindset is insane. TBH, Mashiro and the Kouhai are massive cheating assholes here. This was vile and planned.
They didn't have a constructive and clear discussion a few chapters ago and that's been the lingering issue. It opened the door to the miscommunication that's happened.

Now they actually need to fully talk, rather than Makino (understandably) dominating the conversation and unilaterally ending it like she did last time when Mashiro barely got a word in, despite her own reservations.

A miscommunication and difference in outlook based on life experience is less bad than calling your loving GF "easy," because of her previous work. The implications of that common thought process are potentially more damaging.

I'm very glad the author is calling that out (since it's quite pervasive in real life), using Mashiro's good character to do so like always. Both of them made mistakes here though, clearly. I'm sure they'll say that whenever they calm down.
 
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Poor Kouhai haha. She's so innocent. That wasn't the best choice of words and carries some hurtful implications. I'm glad Makino recognizes how those words could reflect her trust and assumptions about Mashiro's past work.

Mashiro clearly didn't see helping Kouhai as a big deal, judging by her explanation and casual greeting of Makino. She has her boundaries and isn't a cheater, but they aren't on the same page there and need to talk things through.

As I mentioned before, they didn't have a good discussion a few chapters ago and that needs to be remedied, to prevent future miscommunication. They'll figure it out, like always. They're both good people and madly in love.
The Kouhai isnt all that innocent either, considering she was aware of Makino's concerns, but decided to still reach out to Mashiro behind her back and meet her alone in her house, while being flashed and herself not seeing any issue in that either.

Also no matter how much you accept the past work of someone, there will be some preconceptions following, which someone has to accept, but that is something both would need to work through, if they want it to function, though in this story Mashiro does nothing of that and just excepts Makino to work everything out on her own, while betraying her trust on multiple occasions.

Also, since its a Yuri you might see it differently, but it's no different from ur boyfriend/girlfriend flashing her privates at a woman/man, it's not okay just because they have the same gender, it's a big breach of trust.
 
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I mean when Shiro was working there wasnt she already sleepin with other girls, only thing bad here is shes being sneaky about it.
 
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Bruh... :fml:

On one side, Mashiro just has a friend over and felt comfortable showing her shaved parts because this is girl talk, even if both are attracted to women. Is it weird? A little bit, yeah, you need to be really trusting and/or confident to show your vagina however it may be to a friend/acquaintance (like, what if it's sweaty? what if there is beauty mark in a weird place and that person notices it?)

On the other, I wouldn't take what Makino said as in "I think you'll easily cheat on me". I interpreted her line as "you may not be self conscious because you've already built up the confidence to show yourself in that way to strangers but I fear another girl might make a move on you exactly because you are not as reserved about sex talk like the average person"

I don't know what she said exactly in the raws tho.
 
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Bruh... :fml:

On one side, Mashiro just has a friend over and felt comfortable showing her shaved parts because this is girl talk, even if both are attracted to women. Is it weird? A little bit, yeah, you need to be really trusting and/or confident to show your vagina however it may be to a friend/acquaintance (like, what if it's sweaty? what if there is beauty mark in a weird place and that person notices it?)

On the other, I wouldn't take what Makino said as in "I think you'll easily cheat on me". I interpreted her line as "you may not be self conscious because you've already built up the confidence to show yourself in that way to strangers but I fear another girl might make a move on you exactly because you are not as reserved about sex talk like the average person"

I don't know what she said exactly in the raws tho.
The way she reacted afterwards reveals what she meant though. She didn't feel guilty for nothing and she explained her thinking more. But I get your idea!

This is an interesting issue to bring up and I'm glad the series did. It's the kind of conversation they need to have given their relationship. I've been enjoying the continuation quite a bit. It's no wonder the series has remained so popular for its publication. I wonder how long it'll run for though. We still have our other couple too.
 
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Typical example of 2 people who have a completely different perspective and never tried to understand each others

Thank you for your work!
 
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The writing is horseshit and reading this chapter feels like gaslighting. Most normal people would be upset if their romantic partner went behind their back and ended up showing their genitals to someone.
Mashiro isn't upset because Makino is angry at her, she is upset because she basically got called a whore who would just sleep with anyone like a sex addict cheater or something
 

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