Kyou mo Veranda de - Vol. 5 Ch. 58 - Now, Neighbor-san Is...

[cogniferous]

when was this?!

I think in that guy's head but maybe I have bad memory

 

[skeletom_]

Aaaand i lost all of my good feeling towards fmc. There is only one answer to fake relationships - NO. Screw consequences for your career, you can rebuild it. But you can harm someone emotionally so much, that there will be scars for life. And trust is impossible to regain if its lost. Other person might SAY you did, but you never trully will. I hope the world of hurt coming her way, or ill just drop it. I just hate when people suffering from stupidity is everyone but the one being stupid. Meanwhile 1 star it is.

If I'm Narumi Yuu and this level of scandal/misunderstanding permanently scars Tokita emotionally, I'm thinking I dodged a bullet by learning he's so emotionally immature and lacking in resilience before I actually got into an actual relationship with him. Honestly I think it's a lot harder to rebuild a career as a celebrity/actor after a poorly handled scandal than it is to find love.

It seems that she based her decision on the sentence from the previous chapter where the other actress says:

"If you have someone that'll be there for you no matter what then you'll be fine regardless"

but who guarantees that he'll always be there? They're still just neighbors and maybe this is the beginning of a real relationship

I think she's betting on him being there from what she knows about him, but either consciously or unconsciously thinking that if it turns out he isn't then he wasn't right for her in the first place. Which, fair enough imo.

 

[Nerevar2]

It seems that she based her decision on the sentence from the previous chapter where the other actress says:

"If you have someone that'll be there for you no matter what then you'll be fine regardless"

but who guarantees that he'll always be there? They're still just neighbors and maybe this is the beginning of a real relationship

Starting real relationships by faking relationships with someone else? That`s smart. To me that`s the best way to ensure that no relationships will be possible. Will you date someone, who`s faking being in love with someone else in public? Or at least not against the idea? Can you really trust someone like that?

Oh, and the phrase. Being with someone no matter wat? Really no matter what? Dont you think there are things that will kill love, no matter how big it was? And they are barely started their relationships. They are in the period of building trust, not ruining it with stupid decisions.

My point is - she made extremely stupid choice. And i want to see HER pay for it, instead of him.

 

[irem01]

and I can smell new stupid drama brewing

 

[Nerevar2]

If I'm Narumi Yuu and this level of scandal/misunderstanding permanently scars Tokita emotionally, I'm thinking I dodged a bullet by learning he's so emotionally immature and lacking in resilience before I actually got into an actual relationship with him. Honestly I think it's a lot harder to rebuild a career as a celebrity/actor after a poorly handled scandal than it is to find love.

Its about priorities. She basically stated hers. Question is, will he be able to accept it or not. If not - they dodged each other. If he does - her career will always be priority for both of them.

 

[Dingo777]

Its about priorities. She basically stated hers. Question is, will he be able to accept it or not. If not - they dodged each other. If he does - her career will always be priority for both of them.

You see it a lot in Idol rom coms, this notion that your love MUST take second place to their career. And that’s toxic as fuck in real life.

 

[cogniferous]

just release next chapter so you guys can relax already jesus christ

 

[Nerevar2]

You see it a lot in Idol rom coms, this notion that your love MUST take second place to their career. And that’s toxic as fuck in real life.

Yep. But i will add - this trope long overstayed its welcome imho. And again - priorities. Are you willing to trade some amount of career success for personal happines with THIS person, or not. Its a choice.

just release next chapter so you guys can relax already jesus christ

Would be great. But im not sure i will be relaxed. More likely - even more pissed of. (Like no consequences for her at all)

 

[Nerevar2]

sorry. double-posted

 

[cogniferous]

Would be great. But im not sure i will be relaxed. More likely - even more pissed of. (Like no consequences for her at all)

the chapter is literally up on this website, want me to tell you what's actually happening

 

[Nerevar2]

the chapter is literally up on this website, want me to tell you what's actually happening

Cant see it for some reason. No thanks. Ill wait to read it myself.

 

[Dingo777]

the chapter is literally up on this website, want me to tell you what's actually happening

I’d take you up on that

 

[Erbakhan]

I wonder if I have the patience to read this until the end...

 

[Sisig]

Hello everyone!

I'd like to kindly ask readers who have read ahead in other languages not to post spoilers here. Please keep all discussions of future chapters in DMs.

Also, it's been a while since the 50th chapter, when we shared Issei Itokawa's Twitter posts. The final volume in Japanese was released on February 21st, so for those who were waiting to buy all the volumes at once, now's your chance!

Thank you, and see you in the next one!

 

[TheLostKing]

Man, if we get into a needless “drama due to lack of communication arc” imma have to put this one on hold. 😩

 

[outinthegardener]

I'm telling you right now, this is the "rivals motivate the main couple to get together" trope. Tokita is realizing she's not just his neighbor anymore. And the actor coworker is building up to ask her out for real, and Narumi will realize she has feelings for Tokita. Mix and mash it up, bake for 20 chapters, and pull a confession out of the oven.

Locking up his phone seems like a plot point. Maybe Narumi or Manager tries to contact him and he's unable to take the call? Causing... something?

Yay, Summer Baby!

 

[Trayylolz]

The typesetting in this chapter is godlike. These guys must be the real deal. 🤭

 

[skeletom_]

You see it a lot in Idol rom coms, this notion that your love MUST take second place to their career. And that’s toxic as fuck in real life.

I really don't think prioritizing work (or any other priority!) over a relationship that hasn't even started yet is toxic, like, at all. That's literally the responsible way to get into a relationship as an adult. If you're two adults with your own fully formed lives then what matters is that you have similar priorities and boundaries vis a vis the sorts of changes and compromises that a relationship entails, that you discuss your priorities and boundaries as you begin your relationship, and that you defer any permanent decisions until you've had those discussions.

Starting real relationships by faking relationships with someone else? That`s smart. To me that`s the best way to ensure that no relationships will be possible. Will you date someone, who`s faking being in love with someone else in public? Or at least not against the idea? Can you really trust someone like that?

Oh, and the phrase. Being with someone no matter wat? Really no matter what? Dont you think there are things that will kill love, no matter how big it was? And they are barely started their relationships. They are in the period of building trust, not ruining it with stupid decisions.

My point is - she made extremely stupid choice. And i want to see HER pay for it, instead of him.

This is just a blatant mischaracterization, though. She's not starting a relationship by faking a relationship with someone else. These are two separate things in her life - she's doing a public performance to further her career in a way that is especially common in Japan; and at the same time she's beginning to realize her private romantic feelings for Tokita.

For someone whose career is being in the public view, it is reasonable to understand that their public persona and private self are not the same, and that their participation in a media stunt doesn't reflect whether you can trust them privately or not.

If Tokita can't stomach that or is hurt by her actions, they shouldn't get together but she also doesn't owe him anything yet. If Tokita is fine with the stunt and wants to move forward with Narumi, then they obviously need to have a conversation about their priorities and boundaries, at which point they owe each other respect for those boundaries.

Personally, I don't think I'd have a problem separating their public persona from private life. I think I could trust someone who's in a fake public relationship for their career, so long as our private relationship was open and communicative enough, and so long as we discussed our boundaries as our lives became more entwined. I'm guessing you don't feel that way which is why you're just projecting your own insecurity and possessiveness onto Tokita.

Its about priorities. She basically stated hers. Question is, will he be able to accept it or not. If not - they dodged each other. If he does - her career will always be priority for both of them.

All that makes it all the harder for me to understand how you can post this next. This is exactly the issue - her career is a priority for her, and it's up to Tokita to decide how and whether he's ok with that putting constraints on their relationship.

She's entitled to her priorities, both practically and morally. It's ok for her to prioritize her career. She's not wrong to do so.

It wouldn't reflect badly on Tokita as a person for him to think that the constraints of dating a celebrity aren't for him. Nor for him to decide that he's ok with them. He's entitled to his preference on this, both practically and morally. It's ok for him to decide either way.

None of this makes her inherently untrustworthy. None of this makes her choice "extremely stupid" or makes her deserve some sort of unspecified payback.

 

[aveney41]

So this manga ends at chapter 90. I hope they don't only get together in the last 5 chapters

honestly them getting together in the last 5 chps would be generous these days lol

 

[polartrain]

I really don't think prioritizing work (or any other priority!) over a relationship that hasn't even started yet is toxic, like, at all. That's literally the responsible way to get into a relationship as an adult. If you're two adults with your own fully formed lives then what matters is that you have similar priorities and boundaries vis a vis the sorts of changes and compromises that a relationship entails, that you discuss your priorities and boundaries as you begin your relationship, and that you defer any permanent decisions until you've had those discussions.


This is just a blatant mischaracterization, though. She's not starting a relationship by faking a relationship with someone else. These are two separate things in her life - she's doing a public performance to further her career in a way that is especially common in Japan; and at the same time she's beginning to realize her private romantic feelings for Tokita.

For someone whose career is being in the public view, it is reasonable to understand that their public persona and private self are not the same, and that their participation in a media stunt doesn't reflect whether you can trust them privately or not.

If Tokita can't stomach that or is hurt by her actions, they shouldn't get together but she also doesn't owe him anything yet. If Tokita is fine with the stunt and wants to move forward with Narumi, then they obviously need to have a conversation about their priorities and boundaries, at which point they owe each other respect for those boundaries.

Personally, I don't think I'd have a problem separating their public persona from private life. I think I could trust someone who's in a fake public relationship for their career, so long as our private relationship was open and communicative enough, and so long as we discussed our boundaries as our lives became more entwined. I'm guessing you don't feel that way which is why you're just projecting your own insecurity and possessiveness onto Tokita.


All that makes it all the harder for me to understand how you can post this next. This is exactly the issue - her career is a priority for her, and it's up to Tokita to decide how and whether he's ok with that putling constraints on their relationship.

She's entitled to her priorities, both practically and morally. It's ok for her to prioritize her career. She's not wrong to do so.

It wouldn't reflect badly on Tokita as a person for him to think that the constraints of dating a celebrity aren't for him. Nor for him to decide that he's ok with them. He's entitled to his preference on this, both practically and morally. It's ok for him to decide either way.

None of this makes her inherently untrustworthy. None of this makes her choice "extremely stupid" or makes her deserve some sort of unspecified payback.

honestly, it's just poor communication as dictated by the author, if you're going to fake a relationship, no way you don't at least tell your closest friends and family. And if you're telling me that he's not even a close friend then idk what to tell you. No way that she doesn't take at least the brunt of poorly communicating to people close to her. Naturally, I agree with you that all of it is her choice however. And yes, Tokita has no right to dictate how she should move forward with her career. But, at the same time it is also unfair to control Tokita's reaction to her choices, if he is feeling insecure because she is choosing to withhold information I think that is a fairly sane reaction. If we take love out of the picture, or in this case undisclosed mutual feelings, if a publicly facing friend of mine suddenly appeared on the news with respect to a scandal, i'd want to know they're safe and if what's happening is true.