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Hope theo can hook his father up with a better wife and get rid of the bitch step mother and her 2 idiot sons.
Kyoukai Meikyuu to Ikai no Majutsushi - Vol. 5 Ch. 25 - Season of Reunion
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@PhoenixStriker5251 his mother died from a curse from the demon she killed.
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@Kidawesome55
I know, but Theodore points out in a prior chapter how strange and unnatural it was for his mother (who was well-loved and famous for helping and saving many) received seemingly 0 support or care or visits as she withered away. Almost as if something or someone had interfered..
...and demons have been shown to change people's behavior.
I know, but Theodore points out in a prior chapter how strange and unnatural it was for his mother (who was well-loved and famous for helping and saving many) received seemingly 0 support or care or visits as she withered away. Almost as if something or someone had interfered..
...and demons have been shown to change people's behavior.
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> THIS IS SO IMPORTANT
How come that kitty-cat ninja seamlessly slides under the sofa?
Just how big her plot is, she would had been locked from her chest and below, and her head are showing only to MC to retort to....
> The instigation from Byron to MC in this chapter, should serve us to make our blood boils because of how stupid it is to act like that.
But instead of feeling angry, i just "meeeehhhh", because of how cliche it is.
His step mother, im thinking if she gains her will for her son to inherit the Count title, then she will be manipulating her son behind, and make her relationship with MC's father to sever, and aims for higher position. This will never end, because of power seeker woman, or we can call it the "golden shovel" of the Nobles society
How come that kitty-cat ninja seamlessly slides under the sofa?
Just how big her plot is, she would had been locked from her chest and below, and her head are showing only to MC to retort to....
> The instigation from Byron to MC in this chapter, should serve us to make our blood boils because of how stupid it is to act like that.
But instead of feeling angry, i just "meeeehhhh", because of how cliche it is.
His step mother, im thinking if she gains her will for her son to inherit the Count title, then she will be manipulating her son behind, and make her relationship with MC's father to sever, and aims for higher position. This will never end, because of power seeker woman, or we can call it the "golden shovel" of the Nobles society
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What’s with these commenters being all ‘kill everyone who’s not the mc’?
Seriously, that’s the thinking of a psychopath...
Seriously, that’s the thinking of a psychopath...
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People always be jumping straight to stuff
They wouldn't live long if they got reincarnated
Practically just think of them as those dumb entitled supposed main heroines in those otome games lol, they didn't understand what cause and effects their action would result.
They wouldn't live long if they got reincarnated
Practically just think of them as those dumb entitled supposed main heroines in those otome games lol, they didn't understand what cause and effects their action would result.
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@jonsmth
Actually in this case, it is completely noble like to kill him, since this would be seen as a power struggle for succession. Honorable? no... Noble like? It literally comes with the position, so yeah, it is noble like.
I agree that killing him would be a negative. But nothing world changing. To be fair, he actually is likely deserving a much harsher punishment than he is getting. His current list of grievances include:
- Breaking and entering (of property owned by someone of a superior rank, which makes it worse)
- Unintentional harassing/threatening someone of a superior rank (he didn't know his position yet)
- Intentionally harassing/threatening someone of a superior rank (after he knows he still tries to start shit)
- Inciting violence
- Inciting violence against a person of a superior rank (This one could even get him killed by execution. Since MC is working directly under the king, to the point that they are actually fairly close to each other, this can easily be taken as an act act of defiance of the King, in other words, treason)
- Attempted coercion of a noble (by threatening his own father/MC, who is a count/high ranking position holder. He isn't either yet, since he is only the stepson of a count)
Now if they wanted to, they could even tack on attempted assassination, or even working for the demons (though assassination may be a stretch, he does practically admit to wanting to off MC). And all of these claims are almost certainly going to be backed by his father if questioned. Though I do not think either would want him killed, it isn't entirely out of the cards if the ruling is made by others.
@Ace435
No, he isn't. Or maybe wasn't is now a better term since he somehow has become a "better" person. He knowingly let his own son be tortured, harassed, bullied out of the house, and even was almost killed by his step-sons, and did NOTHING about it. By all accounts, MC should loath his father. But because this is an isekai (to an extent), MC doesn't quite take it all as personally as he should, since he only experienced the very tail end of it (sure he remembers it all though, but that is very different than living through it). Honestly they are heavily downplaying things.
Now as I have said, this is a power struggle scenario. However, there is a difference between fighting for succession, and just torture for the fun of it. MC has no intention to succeed the household, so the fact that they still went to such lengths no longer falls under being just a struggle for "right of succession". We all know 90% of all manga nobles are fucked up in terms of family bonding. But that still doesn't make a random appearance with some kind of half-assed apology a magical "fix-it-all" for all of the abuse.
Actually in this case, it is completely noble like to kill him, since this would be seen as a power struggle for succession. Honorable? no... Noble like? It literally comes with the position, so yeah, it is noble like.
I agree that killing him would be a negative. But nothing world changing. To be fair, he actually is likely deserving a much harsher punishment than he is getting. His current list of grievances include:
- Breaking and entering (of property owned by someone of a superior rank, which makes it worse)
- Unintentional harassing/threatening someone of a superior rank (he didn't know his position yet)
- Intentionally harassing/threatening someone of a superior rank (after he knows he still tries to start shit)
- Inciting violence
- Inciting violence against a person of a superior rank (This one could even get him killed by execution. Since MC is working directly under the king, to the point that they are actually fairly close to each other, this can easily be taken as an act act of defiance of the King, in other words, treason)
- Attempted coercion of a noble (by threatening his own father/MC, who is a count/high ranking position holder. He isn't either yet, since he is only the stepson of a count)
Now if they wanted to, they could even tack on attempted assassination, or even working for the demons (though assassination may be a stretch, he does practically admit to wanting to off MC). And all of these claims are almost certainly going to be backed by his father if questioned. Though I do not think either would want him killed, it isn't entirely out of the cards if the ruling is made by others.
@Ace435
No, he isn't. Or maybe wasn't is now a better term since he somehow has become a "better" person. He knowingly let his own son be tortured, harassed, bullied out of the house, and even was almost killed by his step-sons, and did NOTHING about it. By all accounts, MC should loath his father. But because this is an isekai (to an extent), MC doesn't quite take it all as personally as he should, since he only experienced the very tail end of it (sure he remembers it all though, but that is very different than living through it). Honestly they are heavily downplaying things.
Now as I have said, this is a power struggle scenario. However, there is a difference between fighting for succession, and just torture for the fun of it. MC has no intention to succeed the household, so the fact that they still went to such lengths no longer falls under being just a struggle for "right of succession". We all know 90% of all manga nobles are fucked up in terms of family bonding. But that still doesn't make a random appearance with some kind of half-assed apology a magical "fix-it-all" for all of the abuse.
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"Half mother" = Step-mother?
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@JavelinJoe
You might have a different impression of what a noble is. Power struggle comes with the position, but they shouldn't outright kill each other in a mere scuffle if they can help it.
They likely have rules if not the judgement of the king, so it's not up to the MC to execute his brother, who was of peerage.
As for the punishment, it's case-by-case. After all, it's all about balancing between your favor between your peers, your subjects, and your liege. Such is the world where law isn't above the ruling class. It might not be world-changing, but even a too harsh punishment can still reflect badly on the judge.
You might have a different impression of what a noble is. Power struggle comes with the position, but they shouldn't outright kill each other in a mere scuffle if they can help it.
They likely have rules if not the judgement of the king, so it's not up to the MC to execute his brother, who was of peerage.
As for the punishment, it's case-by-case. After all, it's all about balancing between your favor between your peers, your subjects, and your liege. Such is the world where law isn't above the ruling class. It might not be world-changing, but even a too harsh punishment can still reflect badly on the judge.
Quick reminder for the "Kill the spoiled fucker" faction.
Historically, it's extremely dangerous for royalty to kill members of the noble class without due course, as it always leads to resentment and in the long term the complete annihilation of their dynasty.
Theodore's actions are now, for better or worse, tied to his status as an appointed minister by the king himself, and he knows that. Had he just remained a young man alienated from his family, he actually would have been more free to act without much consequence, as it would have been seen as an internal matter, one that has him in the Right as his brother not only trespassed in to his home, independent from his family's properties, but insulted an allied head of a noble house that he may have been courting. Whatever influence the mother can bring to bear in that situation will still need to contend with a fully fledged head of a neighbouring noble household.
In a feudal system, the powers of the royal household aren't as absolute as Hollywood and a number of books would have led you to believe, most of that power relies on the noble families who own land in the kingdom and have their own soldiers. As long as other nobles understand that the execution of a fellow noble was just, as in the king/queen was protecting the overall health of the kingdom so that the other nobles wouldn't suffer the blowback (say a greedy noble overtaxing his peasants leading to a rebellion which then has those rebels enter their territory to incite the same to their populace) then they will stand by the decision and in fact support it. If, on the other hand, it's clear that it's killing for killing's sake, then things will get more messy, much more messy.
And that's the delicate balance that Theodore's now a part of.
Historically, it's extremely dangerous for royalty to kill members of the noble class without due course, as it always leads to resentment and in the long term the complete annihilation of their dynasty.
Theodore's actions are now, for better or worse, tied to his status as an appointed minister by the king himself, and he knows that. Had he just remained a young man alienated from his family, he actually would have been more free to act without much consequence, as it would have been seen as an internal matter, one that has him in the Right as his brother not only trespassed in to his home, independent from his family's properties, but insulted an allied head of a noble house that he may have been courting. Whatever influence the mother can bring to bear in that situation will still need to contend with a fully fledged head of a neighbouring noble household.
In a feudal system, the powers of the royal household aren't as absolute as Hollywood and a number of books would have led you to believe, most of that power relies on the noble families who own land in the kingdom and have their own soldiers. As long as other nobles understand that the execution of a fellow noble was just, as in the king/queen was protecting the overall health of the kingdom so that the other nobles wouldn't suffer the blowback (say a greedy noble overtaxing his peasants leading to a rebellion which then has those rebels enter their territory to incite the same to their populace) then they will stand by the decision and in fact support it. If, on the other hand, it's clear that it's killing for killing's sake, then things will get more messy, much more messy.
And that's the delicate balance that Theodore's now a part of.
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@CBC Or, you know, assassinate them. It's not even a much of an effort to do that. Heck, they did that all the time in real world too, all without magic. So it's even easier here since there is magic. It's not like anyone's actually forcing you to face them directly and fight to the death in front of an audience. Just assassinate with magic, destroying the heart, or better yet, brain, without affecting the outer body. Or, if that's not possible, hire some assassins (bet there are an infinite supply of them and we'll eventually see some coming for the MC anyways, since that's what always happens) through a few hoops to hide your tracks and job's done.
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I mean, taking care of his kid is the least he can do. Also, kind of weird that he didn't notice that his son youngest son was being roughed up by his true heirs, and apparently being tortured in the dungeons by his wife.
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Was the father ever actually married to Lisa? I was under the impression Theo is the product of an extramarital affair.
@Miserys_End
Yes, I'm aware of history. While extramarital affairs were common, it was still looked down upon (at least in European societies). In time where 100% of the population is Catholic, if a patriarch of a noble house had a mistress, let alone a mistress with child, they would be often be hidden and maybe well taken care of, if he really cared for them. The child would never be acknowledged as an heir, let alone living together with his legitimate heirs, unless there are no other children, and even then, society would still frown on the house itself. All that to say, even in Medieval times, adultery is regarded as a sin/vice, so my "modern sensibilities" are actually archaic.
I mean, taking care of his kid is the least he can do. Also, kind of weird that he didn't notice that his son youngest son was being roughed up by his true heirs, and apparently being tortured in the dungeons by his wife.
@ciera
Was the father ever actually married to Lisa? I was under the impression Theo is the product of an extramarital affair.
@Miserys_End
Yes, I'm aware of history. While extramarital affairs were common, it was still looked down upon (at least in European societies). In time where 100% of the population is Catholic, if a patriarch of a noble house had a mistress, let alone a mistress with child, they would be often be hidden and maybe well taken care of, if he really cared for them. The child would never be acknowledged as an heir, let alone living together with his legitimate heirs, unless there are no other children, and even then, society would still frown on the house itself. All that to say, even in Medieval times, adultery is regarded as a sin/vice, so my "modern sensibilities" are actually archaic.
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