Lady Healer With Zero Luck With Men. Her First Love, a Black Knight, Is Now Her Unchosen Fiancé - Ch. 2

[MangaDex]

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Seems fun so far

 

[yoshiii]

loooooooool
Poor girl, dammit haha

 

[IMACOP]

Wait wut. Yer bro chose to have a mere knight title over a freaking Margrave? And yer dad's and the royals just went - sure bro. And yer first husband who married into your family even dared to ask you to raise his half-commoner bastard as the next heir to yer Margrave house?

Welp, shojo logic.

 

[Saon]

Heh, thank you for the chapter!

There's magic in this world. Can't she just brew a potion to turn Norn futa so she'd have the best of both worlds?

Ahh, a man can dream...

 

[welcome2atlantis]

It must've been a curse from the goddesses because she had messed up the scenario... :'(

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

And yer dad's and the royals just went - sure bro.

I mean, you can't actually say no to that kind of stuff, it's kinda like getting excommunicated.

 

[hasf11]

Holy shit, that's sucks; poor girl.

 

[IMACOP]

I mean, you can't actually say no to that kind of stuff, it's kinda like getting excommunicated.

Eh, wut?

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

Eh, wut?

If you decide to drop your family name, there's no much the family or the king can do. That's how it always worked. Disowning your family is no different from excommunicating someone, it's not really something you can go 'no' at.

 

[IMACOP]

If you decide to drop your family name, there's no much the family or the king can do. That's how it always worked. Disowning your family is no different from excommunicating someone, it's not really something you can go 'no' at.

He didn't drop his family name. He gave up his position as the next margrave to be a knight and the royals and his dad accepted it.

1) He can be a knight and retire when his dad dies and pass the margrave title to him. No reason to relinquish it.
2) It's a margrave. A step below dukes and in actual influence and authority, they're no different from dukes. He's also the only male heir to the title. This is like a CEO liking a board director abilities and recruiting him as an office executive and they all go, 'cool, sure'. Like, bruh.
3) His family's line of succession is wrecked because of it.
4) Prince mentioned how important the margrave territory is and they just casually f*ed up the family.

Either the translation is wrong and they're not a margrave house, or the author just doesn't know anything about the aristocracy hierarchy. I'm leaning towards the latter. Afterall, author states her house is a frontier margrave... WTF is that even. Do you know how many barons and counts can fit within a margraves domain? Also why the margave married a commoner apothecary, then married mere knights to his daughter-now-next-margrave. And why is the next margrave working in a small apothecary?

Sorry, ranting. Issues keep popping out when I get into it. That's why, welp, shojo logic.

 

[aerimae]

He didn't drop his family name. He gave up his position as the next margrave to be a knight and the royals and his dad accepted it.

1) He can be a knight and retire when his dad dies and pass the margrave title to him. No reason to relinquish it.
2) It's a margrave. A step below dukes and in actual influence and authority, they're no different from dukes. He's also the only male heir to the title. This is like a CEO liking a board director abilities and recruiting him as an office executive and they all go, 'cool, sure'. Like, bruh.
3) His family's line of succession is wrecked because of it.
4) Prince mentioned how important the margrave territory is and they just casually f*ed up the family.

Either the translation is wrong and they're not a margrave house, or the author just doesn't know anything about the aristocracy hierarchy. I'm leaning towards the latter. Afterall, author states her house is a frontier margrave... WTF is that even. Do you know how many barons and counts can fit within a margraves domain? Also why the margave married a commoner apothecary, then married mere knights to his daughter-now-next-margrave. And why is the next margrave working in a small apothecary?

Sorry, ranting. Issues keep popping out when I get into it. That's why, welp, shojo logic.

This translation is MTL and double checked with Jisho.org. Feel free to check the RAW chapters and correct me if I'm wrong.

original text :父・ジェイズは、辺境伯爵家の当主でありニース国を守る騎士である。

Break it down: 辺境伯 (Margrave) 辺 (border) 境 (region) 伯 (chief, count, earl) 爵 (baron, peerage, court rank) 家(family/house).

兄がエドフォード様に剣の腕を認められて近衛になってしまい、辺境伯爵家の跡継ぎとしての責務を放棄してしまったからだ。マイヤーズ家を継ぐのは私しかいない。

Also, on page 10 she explains that because the border/frontier is attacked often, her parents just wanted her husband to be strong and a excellent swordsman. That's the only requirement.

In chapter 1, Lydia said she wanted to marry a strong, reliable knight (just like the black knight). So, her parents, in there own way, were trying to fulfill her wish. It's just that they didn't consider her husband(s) quirks/personality.

 

[IMACOP]

Also, on page 10 she explains that because the border/frontier is attacked often, her parents just wanted her husband to be strong and a excellent swordsman. That's the only requirement...

Yes, the translation seem right.

Sorry if it wasn't clear. I know why, like you mentioned the author already explained. I'm just throwing out random examples of why as in the author including such things but ignoring everything regarding the way such a society works, and chalking it up to shojo logic. I'm not literally asking it.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

He didn't drop his family name. He gave up his position as the next margrave to be a knight and the royals and his dad accepted it.

1) He can be a knight and retire when his dad dies and pass the margrave title to him. No reason to relinquish it.
2) It's a margrave. A step below dukes and in actual influence and authority, they're no different from dukes. He's also the only male heir to the title. This is like a CEO liking a board director abilities and recruiting him as an office executive and they all go, 'cool, sure'. Like, bruh.
3) His family's line of succession is wrecked because of it.
4) Prince mentioned how important the margrave territory is and they just casually f*ed up the family.

Either the translation is wrong and they're not a margrave house, or the author just doesn't know anything about the aristocracy hierarchy. I'm leaning towards the latter. Afterall, author states her house is a frontier margrave... WTF is that even. Do you know how many barons and counts can fit within a margraves domain? Also why the margave married a commoner apothecary, then married mere knights to his daughter-now-next-margrave. And why is the next margrave working in a small apothecary?

Sorry, ranting. Issues keep popping out when I get into it. That's why, welp, shojo logic.

Once again, there's literally 0 logic issue, nothing you mentioned is illogical or would allow the King or the family to refuse, it's his decision.

Your CEO exemple is even more silly, a board member can quit at any time and go working for whoever the fuck they want, it's his choice and even the fucking president can't do anything about it.

ignoring everything regarding the way such a society works

He ignored nothing, those societies did let you drop whatever claims you had on whatever. There isn't a single society in history where you couldn't just refuse to be the heir.

 

[IMACOP]

Once again, there's literally 0 logic issue, nothing you mentioned is illogical or would allow the King or the family to refuse, it's his decision.

Your CEO exemple is even more silly, a board member can quit at any time and go working for whoever the fuck they want, it's his choice and even the fucking president can't do anything about it.

He ignored nothing, those societies did let you drop whatever claims you had on whatever. There isn't a single society in history where you couldn't just refuse to be the heir.

Sure, past or present. People can choose to quit or whatever, it's their choice. But the implications are huge, more so if it's in an older time. You have no idea how older or medieval society work do you... hell, maybe even present day society at that.

The prince mentioned their territory is an important defensive position and it's also stated and shown they're constantly attacked, but he proceeded to weaken his kingdom's own defenses by removing the next margrave (accepting him as a knight). Now the family in charge of said defense is down to only an older man who will die in a couple decades and his daughter. Should they continue the line by marrying into the house (marry the MC), they're welcoming outsiders into the family. As shown, the husbands can be disappointments at best, at worst, they might be disloyal or hostile agents. You do not allow such risks, especially at key defensive positions. Both the royals and the margrave have more than enough reason to refuse the previously-next-margrave son to join the knights. If the margrave had more spares - more children, then it'll be a different story. This is just one part of the why, there's still the aristocratic aspect not mentioned.

My CEO example is to highlight how nonsensical it is for someone of such high position is hiring another of an equally high position for a low level position - because that's exactly what a king/prince recruiting a (next/)margrave as a knight is.

 

[Fam101]

Having two husbands and never been kissed and been cheated on. That’s not zero luck with men that’s -300 luck with men. Having a friend in a high place and can vouch for her. I hope he sets her up with the black knight.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

My CEO example is to highlight how nonsensical it is for someone of such high position is hiring another of an equally high position for a low level position

I mean, it's a knight order so he's pretty much still hired directly by the King as part of the standing army. From the King's perspective, he gained a great warrior while someone else from the family can administer the territory and worst case scenario, he's a free hostage.

 

[IMACOP]

I mean, it's a knight order so he's pretty much still hired directly by the King as part of the standing army. From the King's perspective, he gained a great warrior while someone else from the family can administer the territory and worst case scenario, he's a free hostage.

You're right, but the kingdom will be shooting themselves in the foot too. There's no bad blood between the margrave family and the royals. So, obtaining him will be a small insurance against rebellion at best, but in exchange the margrave territory, their important defensive position, is severely weakened. This hostage situation also hinges on them caring for their blood relative - remember, to join the knights, bro had to relinquish his claim. So even if royals threatens them with bro, if we're talking typical nobility, it'll be 'so what?', he's already not the successor anyway.

They now only have the current old margrave and the MC, his daughter. The father is at least a meathead warrior, but the MC haven't shown a lick of ability in governance, military or politics and she's the only heir now. The kingdom will be able to send reinforcements, but it's up to the margrave to defend his lands (and the border) with his own army until said reinforcements arrives - if it even arrives at all. So if the dad dies now, it's GG for them (for both margrave lands/house and kingdom) - the MC is completely incompetent for the position.

Which leads to another issue, why is the MC not even trained in such things. Of course, I know why... it's obvious author is sending black knight her way and will end up marrying her and inherit their margrave title. Pardon, ranting again... it's shojo logic... let it go, let it go...

 

[Izuna]

Wait wut. Yer bro chose to have a mere knight title over a freaking Margrave? And yer dad's and the royals just went - sure bro. And yer first husband who married into your family even dared to ask you to raise his half-commoner bastard as the next heir to yer Margrave house?

Welp, shojo logic.

I dont know if i am right or not but knight of royal family is usually get a baron title so he cant get two title

 

[Michael_Chandra]

Ayo, missed yuri opportunity? Sad.