Dunno man, all this antihuman talk sounds like cultist stuff. Nothing good can come from rejecting oneself's nature.
Land of the Lustrous - Vol. 13 Ch. 108 - Land of the Lustrous
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I decided to read HnK after it ended, cuz there were lots of people talking about it on twitter, i knew that it was going to be good, but I didn't expect that a manga would make me go through so many emotions.
I'm going to definitely be buying the physical release
I'm going to definitely be buying the physical release
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Thank You... And, Goodbye.
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Totally agree I'm super hung up on where they left a lot of the gems relationships especially related to Phos. Like a few of the gems seem to be thankful or have forgiven him like Euc and Cairn but not Cinnabar? They even went out of their way to revive all the gems but we got NOTHING from them. Antarcite hello? Did Rutile forgive since Pra is cured now?
The Buddhism angle is really interesting. Initially I thought a lot of this conflict was just that the gems were very bad at communicating with each other but perhaps it's more of a commentary, depicting Phos with all his human desires is actually bad. But his one desire above all else was for others to be happy. I feel like not one other gem ever remotely acknowledged that in all 108 chapters. They just saw him as meddlesome even calling him selfish at times.
I just wish someone would stick up for Phos. For Cinnabar, or Antarc, or even Bort to say "I don't like how you did it but we're better now". Instead we got Enma and Adamant saying "Thank you (for being our martyr)" it doesnt hit the same not coming from his peers.
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What an ending, looking forward to your next series, i'm an instant fan, the cycle continues.
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lot of people itt not understanding eastern values.
the idea of obtaining oblivion isn't as negatively seen as it is in western culture, but that's because it's often framed negatively as being "erased" while you'll see more positive connotations in eastern culture as someone being "released." the whole point of buddhism is to escape the cycle of reincarnation afterall.
the whole series has been heavily rooted in buddhist philosophy from the start, so the idea that the ending is "sad" is one interpretation but that's ignoring a lot of the tenants and cores of buddhism.
one of them is the idea of attachments, ie you're supposed to let them go in order to achieve nirvana. and that is basically what Adamant was: a robot free of attachments, made to set the remains of humanity to rest. however, when he found the first gem, he inadverdantly created a attachment to the world by recreating them in the image of humans. this in turn broke him since he was now bound by desire and to the world. and in being unable to let go of that attachment, he unintentionally unleashed suffering on the gems that he ended up shaping into psuedo humans and imposing their values on them. what happens is thousands of years of suffering, for gems, Lunarians, and Adamant (maybe not the jellyfish, they've got their own issues but i don't know where they fit in). i think Adamant doesn't regret his choices, but in the end he sought release in Nirvana, just like the humans who created him, because he was unable to move on anymore.
another thing about the ending is that it very subtly shows the contrast of how Phos is treated when the gems following human values versus the buddhist mindset of acceptance the minerals and rocks have. with the gems, Phos was always being held back because of their fragile state and was frustrated because they were prevented from doing anything by the gems trying to protect them. in contrast, we see nu!Phos jumping around, chipping themselves and growing smaller, but the rocks and minerals don't try to stop them or hold them back. they understand that nu!Phos is losing themselves gradually, bit by bit, but they simply accept it. remember how the gems would freak out each time Phos would crack? notably none of the new rock organisms have that reaction.
in that sense, i don't think this is a bad ending or that Phos got left behind. Phos finally recieves the freedom and belonging they had been craving in the beginning, while their humanity - the part of them that still remembered their friends after thousands of years of solitude - that had been left behind was able to reach Nirvana and be at rest.
anyways that's why i don't think this ending is anti-human. humanity had reached its end long ago; it was time for the universe to move on. if anything, i would say it's a celebration of how the human spirit can persevere and grow, with all the ugly bumps and warts. i won't deny there were parts of the manga that i was not happy with - looking at you, cairnogem and all of the earth gems - but the ending was beautiful.
the idea of obtaining oblivion isn't as negatively seen as it is in western culture, but that's because it's often framed negatively as being "erased" while you'll see more positive connotations in eastern culture as someone being "released." the whole point of buddhism is to escape the cycle of reincarnation afterall.
the whole series has been heavily rooted in buddhist philosophy from the start, so the idea that the ending is "sad" is one interpretation but that's ignoring a lot of the tenants and cores of buddhism.
one of them is the idea of attachments, ie you're supposed to let them go in order to achieve nirvana. and that is basically what Adamant was: a robot free of attachments, made to set the remains of humanity to rest. however, when he found the first gem, he inadverdantly created a attachment to the world by recreating them in the image of humans. this in turn broke him since he was now bound by desire and to the world. and in being unable to let go of that attachment, he unintentionally unleashed suffering on the gems that he ended up shaping into psuedo humans and imposing their values on them. what happens is thousands of years of suffering, for gems, Lunarians, and Adamant (maybe not the jellyfish, they've got their own issues but i don't know where they fit in). i think Adamant doesn't regret his choices, but in the end he sought release in Nirvana, just like the humans who created him, because he was unable to move on anymore.
another thing about the ending is that it very subtly shows the contrast of how Phos is treated when the gems following human values versus the buddhist mindset of acceptance the minerals and rocks have. with the gems, Phos was always being held back because of their fragile state and was frustrated because they were prevented from doing anything by the gems trying to protect them. in contrast, we see nu!Phos jumping around, chipping themselves and growing smaller, but the rocks and minerals don't try to stop them or hold them back. they understand that nu!Phos is losing themselves gradually, bit by bit, but they simply accept it. remember how the gems would freak out each time Phos would crack? notably none of the new rock organisms have that reaction.
in that sense, i don't think this is a bad ending or that Phos got left behind. Phos finally recieves the freedom and belonging they had been craving in the beginning, while their humanity - the part of them that still remembered their friends after thousands of years of solitude - that had been left behind was able to reach Nirvana and be at rest.
anyways that's why i don't think this ending is anti-human. humanity had reached its end long ago; it was time for the universe to move on. if anything, i would say it's a celebration of how the human spirit can persevere and grow, with all the ugly bumps and warts. i won't deny there were parts of the manga that i was not happy with - looking at you, cairnogem and all of the earth gems - but the ending was beautiful.
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This is the end after all this time I actually got to see it😌
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Honestly, Truly, one of the best outcome that i actually liked. I wish for more something like this.
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ah i remember watching a video about this one a while back it looked interesting and i was gonna read it but then i forgot about it lol guess ill read it now
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i have almost no clue what's going on bro. so why am i crying?
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Man, I'm glad I decided to wait for this manga to end to binge read last 10 or so chapters! It's so much more impactful and meaningful when you don't have to wait months for another chapter. What an ending for one the best manga I've ever read.
Bravo! I hope someone gonna scan these additional illustrations.
Bravo! I hope someone gonna scan these additional illustrations.
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I'm a bit tardy, aren't I.
This final chapter is... how do I put this. Peaceful? It's 'Indifferent' in a sense that I feel nothing. But not in a bad way, I suppose. I guess it makes sense since this is 'Nirvana', or 'The Return to Nothing'. Honestly, I knew I definitely wasn't going to have any strong emotions about the final chapter ever since a dozen couple of chapters ago.
Phos continues to be clumsy, curious, innocent. Or rather, her true nature is unclouded by 'attachments' now. Aechmea, Cinnabar, Kongo-sensei - they're all 'gone'. But they wanted that. I don't believe that immortality is a 'horrifying curse' or anything like that, but rather, the eternal rot and inability to choose when to end oneself was the main problem.
I do not remember much of the plot at this point. It's been so long since I've really thought about a lot of the events of the manga. In a way, I, too, have been 'cleansed' by these last few chapters. Yes, there are memories of events that I may retrieve when I wish, such is their weight and impact on me, but I think I don't really need to. After all, Phos doesn't need to, either. Aniki didn't burden Phos with anything of the past, and I think it might be better this way.
Even here, Phos becomes lighter and lighter, though. As expected, in a story based on Buddhist themes, nothing lasts forever. But I hope that despite the fact, they'll continue to enjoy this serenity. For all our sake's. In a way, being made of Phosphophyllite, only she could have been the protagonist of this story. Fragile and brittle, unenduring, yet still being able to live through everything that happened until reaching this point... I'm proud of them.
I have no idea what's going on in this new world. Others could explain it better than me. Something about Phos' fragments becoming comets in sub-universes... Photon flowers... mysterious creatures that fly, or maybe float? At this point, to simply bask in rays of calm is the natural course of action. No need for conflict, no need for troubles, no need for any of those things.
To merely flip the pages and look closely, it's akin to an impressionistic painting. To 'feel' is enough. Your heart will understand it enough by itself.
Your comet has brought along many things I could never have imagined years before I knew of its story, but even as it dissipates as comets are want to do, I cannot help but look and appreciate its last few glows. Thank you. Goodbye, Phos.
This final chapter is... how do I put this. Peaceful? It's 'Indifferent' in a sense that I feel nothing. But not in a bad way, I suppose. I guess it makes sense since this is 'Nirvana', or 'The Return to Nothing'. Honestly, I knew I definitely wasn't going to have any strong emotions about the final chapter ever since a dozen couple of chapters ago.
Phos continues to be clumsy, curious, innocent. Or rather, her true nature is unclouded by 'attachments' now. Aechmea, Cinnabar, Kongo-sensei - they're all 'gone'. But they wanted that. I don't believe that immortality is a 'horrifying curse' or anything like that, but rather, the eternal rot and inability to choose when to end oneself was the main problem.
I do not remember much of the plot at this point. It's been so long since I've really thought about a lot of the events of the manga. In a way, I, too, have been 'cleansed' by these last few chapters. Yes, there are memories of events that I may retrieve when I wish, such is their weight and impact on me, but I think I don't really need to. After all, Phos doesn't need to, either. Aniki didn't burden Phos with anything of the past, and I think it might be better this way.
Even here, Phos becomes lighter and lighter, though. As expected, in a story based on Buddhist themes, nothing lasts forever. But I hope that despite the fact, they'll continue to enjoy this serenity. For all our sake's. In a way, being made of Phosphophyllite, only she could have been the protagonist of this story. Fragile and brittle, unenduring, yet still being able to live through everything that happened until reaching this point... I'm proud of them.
I have no idea what's going on in this new world. Others could explain it better than me. Something about Phos' fragments becoming comets in sub-universes... Photon flowers... mysterious creatures that fly, or maybe float? At this point, to simply bask in rays of calm is the natural course of action. No need for conflict, no need for troubles, no need for any of those things.
To merely flip the pages and look closely, it's akin to an impressionistic painting. To 'feel' is enough. Your heart will understand it enough by itself.
Your comet has brought along many things I could never have imagined years before I knew of its story, but even as it dissipates as comets are want to do, I cannot help but look and appreciate its last few glows. Thank you. Goodbye, Phos.
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I'm not gonna lie, this was sort of disappointing. It feels like the story didn't know where it was going. It felt like plot points were repeatedly dropped in favor of suddenly progressing the plot to drive interest.
There were lots of interesting points that just... Don't really get expanded upon in a meaningful way.
There were lots of interesting points that just... Don't really get expanded upon in a meaningful way.
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was a shit story in the second half
lived up to its shittiness all the way through the end
peak garbage
lived up to its shittiness all the way through the end
peak garbage
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Good thing I finished this in 7 years, didn't know it was made in 12 years.
