Mahou Shoujo × Haiboku Saiban - Vol. 3 Ch. 12 - Case 4 Oribe Yahiro Part 5

[dOmOlz]

Ultimately this whole story is just a vehicle for depicting the author's/artist's fetishes, but I'm just asking for a bit of internal consistency in the world.

I hope we see a femboy

 

[UdenEmpati]

I hope we see a femboy

Given Aoi was a boy before she was MG'd, I think that's as close as we can get - "Magical Girl" seems to be very biology-exclusionary in that regard, so "femboy" would at best be a non-MG character.

Though I guess an "imposter MG" that was put on trial before being discovered to be a fake (not a real MG) could be an angle, or something.

 

[DeadToReal]

It would be nice if one of Aoi-kun's old friends appeared - you know, the stereotypical shonen protagonist - and created some friction with Yuuri. As well all know, love-docecawhatevers work really well. And question Aoi-kun's sexuality (there seems to be no doubt regarding Yuuri's sexuality)

That is probably going to happen in the next volume. Unless Aoi-kun was one of those people that didn't have any friends or even talk to people, he should have at least one person that he was friendly with in his old school. Heck, his old friends might even be fapping to videos of him fighting Dark Harassment. You can be damn sure there are plenty of enhanced close-ups of Aoi-kun jumping in the air with legs spread wide open. I can even imagine those old friends being introduced as being a chikan and grabbing Aoi-kun's ass on a train.

 

[DeadToReal]

It's not overt, but so far of the girls we've seen most chose to become Magical Girls due to their unfair circumstances.

• Aoi was goaded into becoming one by the Unicorn in order to save someone's life.
• Miko comes from a long line of Exorcists it's possible she was pressured to do so.
• Yahiro is an orphan who needed the money to take care of her brother.

The author does not paint a picture of fairness for these girls.

• The only one that we see goaded was Aoi. And it wasn't like the Unicorn actually lied to Aoi, either. The Unicorn is simply like Kyubey, in that Aoi simply wasn't told the full consequences of him geting his powers.
• While it is possible that Miko was pressured into becoming a magical girl, it is just as possible that she simply wanted to join that proud linage of her ancestors. We simply do not know.
• Yahiro's dad is still alive, and Yahiro could've gotten a regular job that most other students get. This still takes place in Japan, so they should be entitled to some welfare to keep them from starving and being homeless. Yahiro chose to become a magical girl because she wanted more money to make her brother happy.

The magical girl defeat trial is totaly unfair, although you can make an argument that letting magical girls basically get away with anything, from killing people to destroying entire block, as long as they're fighting monsters, is a justifiable tradeoff. Being defeated essentially mean all the collateral death and destruction were essentially for nothing.

But I'm still not convinced that most of these girls were presured into becoming magical girls. There has not been enough magical girls shown and we simply do not know enough about the background of the magical girls we've seen to know for use.

 

[Anothis]

I just lost it at the crow mask guy that draw tits at speed

That's the author's self insert... just as an FYI. They've used it in... previous works.

 

[runedKnight]

• The only one that we see goaded was Aoi. And it wasn't like the Unicorn actually lied to Aoi, either. The Unicorn is simply like Kyubey, in that Aoi simply wasn't told the full consequences of him geting his powers.
• While it is possible that Miko was pressured into becoming a magical girl, it is just as possible that she simply wanted to join that proud linage of her ancestors. We simply do not know.
• Yahiro's dad is still alive, and Yahiro could've gotten a regular job that most other students get. This still takes place in Japan, so they should be entitled to some welfare to keep them from starving and being homeless. Yahiro chose to become a magical girl because she wanted more money to make her brother happy.

The magical girl defeat trial is totaly unfair, although you can make an argument that letting magical girls basically get away with anything, from killing people to destroying entire block, as long as they're fighting monsters, is a justifiable tradeoff. Being defeated essentially mean all the collateral death and destruction were essentially for nothing.

But I'm still not convinced that most of these girls were presured into becoming magical girls. There has not been enough magical girls shown and we simply do not know enough about the background of the magical girls we've seen to know for use.

Agreed it's mostly conjecture still, however it does fit to a degree. As for Yahiro, while her dad is still alive he seems to be in no situation to act as a parent leaving the children functionally alone.
One thing that comes to mind is that these girls are not adults and that when offered the chance to live an extraordinary lifestyle good judgement may not always be present, though this may seem strange to think about in a society that on one hand worships magical girls and on the other is willing to put them through hell at the first sign of failure.

All in all, as the reader we have the knowledge that becoming a magical girl is not a choice to make lightly, but with only Aoi's case being shown in full I simply wonder if the candidates are chosen mostly on the chances that they will accept the offer.
The "monsters" themselves are involved in creating magical girls after all.

The trials can seem "sane" and "fair" if you consider the girls as "Soldiers" and defeat as "Desertion" with the court then becoming a "Military Tribunal" but this presupposes a lot that is not yet shown in the story or shown clearly. The court is still an antagonistic entity to magical girls either way.

 

[DeadToReal]

Agreed it's mostly conjecture still, however it does fit to a degree. As for Yahiro, while her dad is still alive he seems to be in no situation to act as a parent leaving the children functionally alone.
One thing that comes to mind is that these girls are not adults and that when offered the chance to live an extraordinary lifestyle good judgement may not always be present, though this may seem strange to think about in a society that on one hand worships magical girls and on the other is willing to put them through hell at the first sign of failure.

All in all, as the reader we have the knowledge that becoming a magical girl is not a choice to make lightly, but with only Aoi's case being shown in full I simply wonder if the candidates are chosen mostly on the chances that they will accept the offer.
The "monsters" themselves are involved in creating magical girls after all.

The trials can seem "sane" and "fair" if you consider the girls as "Soldiers" and defeat as "Desertion" with the court then becoming a "Military Tribunal" but this presupposes a lot that is not yet shown in the story or shown clearly. The court is still an antagonistic entity to magical girls either way.

I think magical girls in this setting are basically Hollywood celebrities. They get to live their dreams of having powers and fight evil, while being rich and famous for it. But celebrities have to pay a huge price for those riches and fame. And even knowing about the price, they still want to become a celebrity. It's only after actually experiencing everything that some come to regret becoming a celebrity.

I think it's the same for girls who become magical girls. They know that it's not going to be an easy job, but they still want to become one because it's a dream job for them. I mean, you are basically a superstar that people idolize and make huge money saving the world. That's pretty hard to say no, even as an adult.

I completely agree the court is antagonistic towards the magical girls. Those girls basically have no second chances, once they're defeated. The only way out for them is by being lucky enough, to have a lawyer smart enough, to find some loophole to get them out on a technicality.

But the twisted logic for the trials is like how taking hostages is not a reason for giving up. What Lemon said was true: Giving up from taking hostages would set a bad precedent. It would mean that all monsters have to do to get away with it, are monsters taking hostages every time a magical girl shows up.

The same logic can be applied toward the defeat trials. For some reason, the only ones that can defeat monsters are the magical girls. This makes them symbols of hope for the people as they are the only ones capable of defeating monsters. Just like an army being obliterated destroys morale for everyone, a magical girl defeated in humiliating ways destroys morale for everyone in that world. And if being defeated didn't have consequences, they can simply run away when they feel like they're about to be defeated. But that, or course, means other innocent people have to suffer because they aren't being protected. The trials give magical girls an incentive to give it their all to protect everyone by defeating evil.

And yes, that's some messed up reasoning for the defeat trials, but that world is completely messed up to begin with. Which means, it makes perfect sense with the logic of that world.

 

[runedKnight]

I think magical girls in this setting are basically Hollywood celebrities. They get to live their dreams of having powers and fight evil, while being rich and famous for it. But celebrities have to pay a huge price for those riches and fame. And even knowing about the price, they still want to become a celebrity. It's only after actually experiencing everything that some come to regret becoming a celebrity.

I think it's the same for girls who become magical girls. They know that it's not going to be an easy job, but they still want to become one because it's a dream job for them. I mean, you are basically a superstar that people idolize and make huge money saving the world. That's pretty hard to say no, even as an adult.

I completely agree the court is antagonistic towards the magical girls. Those girls basically have no second chances, once they're defeated. The only way out for them is by being lucky enough, to have a lawyer smart enough, to find some loophole to get them out on a technicality.

But the twisted logic for the trials is like how taking hostages is not a reason for giving up. What Lemon said was true: Giving up from taking hostages would set a bad precedent. It would mean that all monsters have to do to get away with it, are monsters taking hostages every time a magical girl shows up.

The same logic can be applied toward the defeat trials. For some reason, the only ones that can defeat monsters are the magical girls. This makes them symbols of hope for the people as they are the only ones capable of defeating monsters. Just like an army being obliterated destroys morale for everyone, a magical girl defeated in humiliating ways destroys morale for everyone in that world. And if being defeated didn't have consequences, they can simply run away when they feel like they're about to be defeated. But that, or course, means other innocent people have to suffer because they aren't being protected. The trials give magical girls an incentive to give it their all to protect everyone by defeating evil.

And yes, that's some messed up reasoning for the defeat trials, but that world is completely messed up to begin with. Which means, it makes perfect sense with the logic of that world.

Tooka from the first case fits that description, Miko on the other hand for all her pedigree and powerful magic was virtually unknown. We'll probably get a better idea once more magical girls show up.

But one thing that comes to mind is that there are girls that work directly for the state like that samurai girl from the end of chapter 1. Wouldn't be surprised if there are other preferable position that open up once you become a magical girl, fame might not be the only incentive.

 

[DeadToReal]

Tooka from the first case fits that description, Miko on the other hand for all her pedigree and powerful magic was virtually unknown. We'll probably get a better idea once more magical girls show up.

But one thing that comes to mind is that there are girls that work directly for the state like that samurai girl from the end of chapter 1. Wouldn't be surprised if there are other preferable position that open up once you become a magical girl, fame might not be the only incentive.

It seems Miko really didn't want to become a celebrity at all. I don't blame her. Just like Yahiro used a mask to hide her identity to remain a normal girl, all the problems with becoming a celebrity really aren't worth it for most people. Miko could be just like her. Someone who fight monsters not for fame, but because they want to help people.

I remember at the end of chapter 1 there was mention of "Otherworldly Deserted Village". Those state sponsored magical girls could be seen as part of a magical girl army, fighting to take back territory lost to monsters. That could be another incentive.

 

[cralwihng]

If they shot Aoi, would he have gotten his body back? This has become the main plot hook for me

 

[Iosif]

I just lost it at the crow mask guy that draw tits at speed

That guy never misses with his drawings.

 

[DLRevan]

I think magical girls in this setting are basically Hollywood celebrities. They get to live their dreams of having powers and fight evil, while being rich and famous for it. But celebrities have to pay a huge price for those riches and fame. And even knowing about the price, they still want to become a celebrity. It's only after actually experiencing everything that some come to regret becoming a celebrity.

Funny you mention this, I was thinking that if such a system existed today with special rules for people with a certain amount of fame and riches, the masses would be totally behind it. There is a significant degree of a culture of "tearing down power" in today's world regardless of fairness and justice.

Which is not to say I am commenting on how this is a realistic system, but rather how twisted our world has gotten. Perhaps that is the reason so many commenters here seem to want to take this court system so seriously and actually address it with what they feel is some degree of logic. Nobody disagrees that it's mostly nonsensical, but there are enough elements that people can relate to.

As far as I'm concerned it's a deliberate sham trial system that exists to protect magical girl reputations in-universe, and a massive joke about classic hentai stereotype scenarios and endings where nothing else has to make sense.

 

[DeadToReal]

Funny you mention this, I was thinking that if such a system existed today with special rules for people with a certain amount of fame and riches, the masses would be totally behind it. There is a significant degree of a culture of "tearing down power" in today's world regardless of fairness and justice.

Which is not to say I am commenting on how this is a realistic system, but rather how twisted our world has gotten. Perhaps that is the reason so many commenters here seem to want to take this court system so seriously and actually address it with what they feel is some degree of logic. Nobody disagrees that it's mostly nonsensical, but there are enough elements that people can relate to.

As far as I'm concerned it's a deliberate sham trial system that exists to protect magical girl reputations in-universe, and a massive joke about classic hentai stereotype scenarios and endings where nothing else has to make sense.

This is definitely a parody of classic hentai stereotype scenarios. The author basically confirms this in the volume 1 extras. But just because this is a parody, doesn't mean that the absurd scenarios we see are really all that absurd.

Most people forget that the past had completely different values and common sense than those of us in modern times. It was quite normal and very much anticipated in the past for people to watch people getting executed in gruesome ways. People in modern times gasp in horror seeing seeing those things today; you would be called a psychopath for even enjoying such things.

The same goes with nudity. It was quite normal for people in the past to be naked around each other. Women in the Edo Period had no problem being naked in mixed baths and spreading their legs as they stepping over men's faces. I've even read stories about farmers working the fields naked. And women spreading their legs and urinating in those very same fields where everyone can see.

Entire families shared the same room in the Medieval Period. It was quite normal for your mother and sisters to strip naked in front of everyone and slept completely naked in bed. Things like having separate bedrooms and nightwear were things only the rich could afford. Couples were even fucking each other on one side of the bed, while their parents slept on the other side. And since everyone had big families back then, you can imagine bored kids watching their parents and married siblings getting it on as they watched. Nudity simply wasn't a problem for people back then.

If anything, our modern sense of shame, prudishness, and aversion to violence is totally absurd and abnormal compared to most of human history. WE are the weird and nonsensical ones.

 

[UdenEmpati]

I think magical girls in this setting are basically Hollywood celebrities. They get to live their dreams of having powers and fight evil, while being rich and famous for it. But celebrities have to pay a huge price for those riches and fame. And even knowing about the price, they still want to become a celebrity. It's only after actually experiencing everything that some come to regret becoming a celebrity.

I think it's the same for girls who become magical girls. They know that it's not going to be an easy job, but they still want to become one because it's a dream job for them. I mean, you are basically a superstar that people idolize and make huge money saving the world. That's pretty hard to say no, even as an adult.

I completely agree the court is antagonistic towards the magical girls. Those girls basically have no second chances, once they're defeated. The only way out for them is by being lucky enough, to have a lawyer smart enough, to find some loophole to get them out on a technicality.

But the twisted logic for the trials is like how taking hostages is not a reason for giving up. What Lemon said was true: Giving up from taking hostages would set a bad precedent. It would mean that all monsters have to do to get away with it, are monsters taking hostages every time a magical girl shows up.

The same logic can be applied toward the defeat trials. For some reason, the only ones that can defeat monsters are the magical girls. This makes them symbols of hope for the people as they are the only ones capable of defeating monsters. Just like an army being obliterated destroys morale for everyone, a magical girl defeated in humiliating ways destroys morale for everyone in that world. And if being defeated didn't have consequences, they can simply run away when they feel like they're about to be defeated. But that, or course, means other innocent people have to suffer because they aren't being protected. The trials give magical girls an incentive to give it their all to protect everyone by defeating evil.

And yes, that's some messed up reasoning for the defeat trials, but that world is completely messed up to begin with. Which means, it makes perfect sense with the logic of that world.

I couldn't think of exactly where to respond to this but this felt like the closest to the thought I had -
But it's interesting you mention the need for the trials as incentive for Magical Girls to effectively "not half-ass" their roles in protecting the populace; because the court system, while using its punishments and sentences to give MGs all the motivation to avoid failure, still has defense lawyers for those standing trial.

Maybe in general, that's a token effort to make things at least appear fair, and Our MC defense lawyer happens to be very good compared to the norm - but I just realized that the fact that each chapter is built around defending the actions of "failed Magical Girls" with the intent of proving their innocence even in losing, means that on some level within the world's internal logic, the systems and entities overseeing the Magical Girls realize that there's potential that failure doesn't mean absolute certainty of condemnation, and that "failure" might actually not be as is initially perceived in the first place.

Since it would be very simple to just go "oh, you failed to defeat the monster and got stripped/violate/otherwise humiliated the title of Magical Girl? Welp off you go, into the insect breeding cage with you" and they'd be sent off to whatever punishment immediately - and if "the image of infallibility" really was all-important, I would expect this would just be the way of doing things, because a trial, even a sham one, invites any who witness/spectate to potentially notice discrepancies or holes in the logic of the court system if a judgment is made on less-than ironclad evidence.

And there's the fact that our MC has succeeded in absolving multiple "failed MGs" already, and those Defendants have been found Not Guilty in the court of MG law - so her defense being upheld and respected by the court system means she carries real power. So in that sense, the court system itself realizes that the situation with MGs is nuanced, however much importance it places on "you must never fail", and however invested it might be in perpetuating that mentality in all the MGs and the populace at large.

That doesn't touch on any of the meta stuff about fetishes and tropes and whatnot, but in terms of internally-consistent in-world logic for the system in its setting, I found it intriguing.
Just something that struck me reading through all the rather interesting and insightful comments here.

 

[DLRevan]

This is definitely a parody of classic hentai stereotype scenarios. The author basically confirms this in the volume 1 extras. But just because this is a parody, doesn't mean that the absurd scenarios we see are really all that absurd.

Most people forget that the past had completely different values and common sense than those of us in modern times. It was quite normal and very much anticipated in the past for people to watch people getting executed in gruesome ways. People in modern times gasp in horror seeing seeing those things today; you would be called a psychopath for even enjoying such things.

The same goes with nudity. It was quite normal for people in the past to be naked around each other. Women in the Edo Period had no problem being naked in mixed baths and spreading their legs as they stepping over men's faces. I've even read stories about farmers working the fields naked. And women spreading their legs and urinating in those very same fields where everyone can see.

Entire families shared the same room in the Medieval Period. It was quite normal for your mother and sisters to strip naked in front of everyone and slept completely naked in bed. Things like having separate bedrooms and nightwear were things only the rich could afford. Couples were even fucking each other on one side of the bed, while their parents slept on the other side. And since everyone had big families back then, you can imagine bored kids watching their parents and married siblings getting it on as they watched. Nudity simply wasn't a problem for people back then.

If anything, our modern sense of shame, prudishness, and aversion to violence is totally absurd and abnormal compared to most of human history. WE are the weird and nonsensical ones.

I don't disagree on the differing standards of cultures past or present...or potentially future or otherworldly.

If anything, it highlights how it's possible to have a sense of dissonance where this is believable enough for people to engage 'seriously'.

However, I don't think that was the intention, neither should that be an excuse to further than dissonance with what is expected today, at least in a negative sense. Conversely I don't think past cultures would take us seriously either, and why should they?

That's a roundabout way of restating that I think people are taking this way too seriously.

 

[runedKnight]

I don't disagree on the differing standards of cultures past or present...or potentially future or otherworldly.

If anything, it highlights how it's possible to have a sense of dissonance where this is believable enough for people to engage 'seriously'.

However, I don't think that was the intention, neither should that be an excuse to further than dissonance with what is expected today, at least in a negative sense. Conversely I don't think past cultures would take us seriously either, and why should they?

That's a roundabout way of restating that I think people are taking this way too seriously.

The setting is ridiculous that's for certain (as anything supernatural tends to be), but the main draw to taking the discussion of this story seriously is that it's themes are more interesting compared to what you usually find in erotica.

Themes of systemic abuse, perversion of law and classicism(?) are present due to the way the author structured their story, though this seems to atm be more for the sake of generating tension rather than a clear statement from the author. These themes tend to always generate interesting discussions.

The center point of the story is I think Yuuri's fight against injustice, she states she will save all magical girls from the court. The plot is centered on her motivations for doing this which are still a mystery. The author cleverly removes us from her POV after Aoi is introduced in order to keep the mystery going.
Without more info on Yuuri's past and the courts actual purpose I think it's to early to state if the story has a clear stance on anything other than that doing horrible things to a group of people for perceived failures is wrong. There is the insanity of the court system being a product of Magical Girl ideology too, but I'm not sure what to make of it currently.

Though I hope the story will build on it's themes as it continues since the ludicrous setting is very interesting and novel.

 

[DeadToReal]

I couldn't think of exactly where to respond to this but this felt like the closest to the thought I had -
But it's interesting you mention the need for the trials as incentive for Magical Girls to effectively "not half-ass" their roles in protecting the populace; because the court system, while using its punishments and sentences to give MGs all the motivation to avoid failure, still has defense lawyers for those standing trial.

Maybe in general, that's a token effort to make things at least appear fair, and Our MC defense lawyer happens to be very good compared to the norm - but I just realized that the fact that each chapter is built around defending the actions of "failed Magical Girls" with the intent of proving their innocence even in losing, means that on some level within the world's internal logic, the systems and entities overseeing the Magical Girls realize that there's potential that failure doesn't mean absolute certainty of condemnation, and that "failure" might actually not be as is initially perceived in the first place.

Since it would be very simple to just go "oh, you failed to defeat the monster and got stripped/violate/otherwise humiliated the title of Magical Girl? Welp off you go, into the insect breeding cage with you" and they'd be sent off to whatever punishment immediately - and if "the image of infallibility" really was all-important, I would expect this would just be the way of doing things, because a trial, even a sham one, invites any who witness/spectate to potentially notice discrepancies or holes in the logic of the court system if a judgment is made on less-than ironclad evidence.

And there's the fact that our MC has succeeded in absolving multiple "failed MGs" already, and those Defendants have been found Not Guilty in the court of MG law - so her defense being upheld and respected by the court system means she carries real power. So in that sense, the court system itself realizes that the situation with MGs is nuanced, however much importance it places on "you must never fail", and however invested it might be in perpetuating that mentality in all the MGs and the populace at large.

That doesn't touch on any of the meta stuff about fetishes and tropes and whatnot, but in terms of internally-consistent in-world logic for the system in its setting, I found it intriguing.
Just something that struck me reading through all the rather interesting and insightful comments here.

I'm glad that all these walls of text were actually worth people's time and weren't wasted.

I think the attitudes of everyone in the first chapter pretty much proves the trials to essentially be a sham. The chevalier that later saves Aoi-kun explicitly says, at the end of the first chapter, that she was surprised that Yuuri managed to beat the court, when the courts were usually for determining the severity of the sentence.

Essentially, the courts are basically there to give the illusion of a proper justice system. Sure, the courts just rubber stamp anything the prosecutors ask for, but there still needs to be a trial before giving a judgement -- because everyone deserves an actual trial. It's just that Yuuri is actually smart enough to flip the entire justice system on its head.

Of course, this is all just us going down the rabbit hole of speculation, until the author finally decides to give us some actual world building. Still, I can't deny that letting my imagination run wild is kinda fun.

 

[DeadToReal]

I don't disagree on the differing standards of cultures past or present...or potentially future or otherworldly.

If anything, it highlights how it's possible to have a sense of dissonance where this is believable enough for people to engage 'seriously'.

However, I don't think that was the intention, neither should that be an excuse to further than dissonance with what is expected today, at least in a negative sense. Conversely I don't think past cultures would take us seriously either, and why should they?

That's a roundabout way of restating that I think people are taking this way too seriously.

I don't think there's anything wrong in delving a little deep into the possible lore of a story we clearly love. Yes, it's true that we really get into it with our discussions, but all of us here know that the setting is absolutely ridiculous. We go into these discussions and speculations simply because it is fun.

It's like those people who go on worldbuilding forums and get REALLY pedantic into making every little thing thing work in their setting. From making sure certain civilizations have the right clothing and architecture in their specific environment, to how weather patterns work -- it's all for the fun of it all. And it's not like people here take things so seriously that we're having arguments and flame wars about stupid things that only exist in their heads.

 

[UdenEmpati]

It's like those people who go on worldbuilding forums and get REALLY pedantic into making every little thing thing work in their setting. From making sure certain civilizations have the right clothing and architecture in their specific environment, to how weather patterns work -- it's all for the fun of it all. And it's not like people here take things so seriously that we're having arguments and flame wars about stupid things that only exist in their heads.

Worldbuilding is a ton of fun, and this title in particular seems like it actually has a lot going on under the hood that feels more ...I guess "thought out" than your average supernatural/fantasy series on this site. Especially given the subtheme of straight-up fetish porn that's concurrently running through the entire premise.
And it's nice to stretch the critical thinking muscles in trying to work out how things would actually function and make sense, and I'd argue especially when the setting or gimmick is preposterous. I honestly feel like I've gotten better at literary analysis just from participating in certain forum discussions on select titles here, so it's not without actual function, I'd argue.

 

[DeadToReal]

Worldbuilding is a ton of fun, and this title in particular seems like it actually has a lot going on under the hood that feels more ...I guess "thought out" than your average supernatural/fantasy series on this site. Especially given the subtheme of straight-up fetish porn that's concurrently running through the entire premise.
And it's nice to stretch the critical thinking muscles in trying to work out how things would actually function and make sense, and I'd argue especially when the setting or gimmick is preposterous. I honestly feel like I've gotten better at literary analysis just from participating in certain forum discussions on select titles here, so it's not without actual function, I'd argue.

I think a major reason why this title seems to have more going into it that others, is because most other stories are formulaic and tropey as hell. It seems like everything just recycles the same exact story, and copies the same exact characters over and over again, to the point where everything just feels like we've read it all before. I've even seen authors literally recycle their own works to basically make endless clone of the same exact story. A magical girl court room story -- with straight-up fetish porn punishments -- is a surprisingly new take that I'm surprised that I have not seem before. It's completely different from your typical dense, doormat MC that's a genius at everything, yet makes really stupid decisions because of plot.

And I know that most people go into those forums with the intent of writing actual stories in their worlds, but I just like world building for world building sake. I have no intention of publishing anything, so I don't have to be bothered with trying to make the characters and story interesting for everyone. All that matters is that the world is interesting to me, and that means that I am free to create anything that I like.

I can't tell you how much time I've lost going down various rabbit holes, trying to make my worlds "realistic" in their settings. I've spent weeks searching forums and wracking my brain to come up with a solution to "Medieval Stasis" that didn't involve just "ignoring the problem". The solutions I came up with is to keep everything limited to one continent, cheap labor due of overpopulation, entrenched class system, a world filled with monsters, with sudden and devastating invasions from monster hordes that appear out of nowhere; the types we see in Goblin Slayer and Dragon Age. Dragon Age sucks now, but the first game was good, and I like the idea of truly evil enemies that you can never negotiate with, always on the rampage in the form of the Dark Spawn. I've even made sure most of the continent is hugs the tropics, to make sure people have a good reason to wear little, if at all, clothing. NUDITY, HELL YEAH! And yeah, I have perverted mind. But we're 12 chapters into this story. We're all perverts here.