Maigo ni Natteita Youjo o Tasuketara, Otonari ni Sumu Bishoujo Ryuugakusei ga Ie ni Asobi ni Kuru You ni Natta Ken ni Tsuite - Vol. 4 Ch. 26

[Swordhaxor]

pg 25 what do you mean his past is so heavy? This is really making it feel like he set an orphanage on fire when its really not that deep.

Well, after reading LN, I also think his past was kinda heavy.

Spoiler: LN SPOILERS

His parents abandoned him just after birth in front of an orphanage, because they were too poor to raise him and his fraternal twin. The orphanage where he was growing up went under when he was in the middle of an important tournament, he got adopted by a certain rich man. He was put under house arrest, he broke free, but he got too late for the match and the moment he went onto the playing field, his best friend got critically injured, cuz he was desperate to score. Later it turns out his step-father made the orphanage to go under and adopted him, because he beat a team a certain business parter of his step-father had his son playing in.

So yeah, I think it was kinda messed up past, but that's my opinion.

 

[Kagimizu]

I saw a spoiler for the "tragic backstory" and it isn't nearly that bad. I've come to the conclusion that his messiah complex is just self satisfaction and he's simply running away from his problems, thinking making himself hated is a form of "atonement". Dude is just a coward who can't accept that that past incident wasn't his fault. Just a stupid kid who thinks he's better or more important than everyone else. I'd honestly give him a good slapping to knock some sense into that thick skull of his if I could.

Spoiler: In regards to that....

You have to remember just how seriously Japan takes things such as personal responsibility, and self-sacrifice for the good of the community. As far as almost everyone else is concerned, he let them down when they needed him most. I dunno how many of these kids are aware that he was all but kidnapped for the sake of some business schmoozing, and that might be a factor the hostility he suffered.

But when lots of people are blaming you for something- even if it isn't your fault- you start internalizing that negativity. There's also the interpretation that he still can't help but want to help people, but feels he doesn't deserve any praise OR doesn't want groups of people relying on him again. Better to be a stepping stone than a lifeline, as far as he's concerned.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Spoiler: In regards to that....

You have to remember just how seriously Japan takes things such as personal responsibility, and self-sacrifice for the good of the community. As far as almost everyone else is concerned, he let them down when they needed him most. I dunno how many of these kids are aware that he was all but kidnapped for the sake of some business schmoozing, and that might be a factor the hostility he suffered.

But when lots of people are blaming you for something- even if it isn't your fault- you start internalizing that negativity. There's also the interpretation that he still can't help but want to help people, but feels he doesn't deserve any praise OR doesn't want groups of people relying on him again. Better to be a stepping stone than a lifeline, as far as he's concerned.

The biggest takeaway for me is that Aoyagi didn't put himself in this position entirely of his own volition while in a vacuum, separate of outside influence.

Adults of all ages are highly susceptible to peer pressure. It's orders of magnitude more significant for someone going through the neurological crucible that is puberty and all the social stressors that are also involved.

 

[WiseOldKing]

Well, after reading LN, I also think his past was kinda heavy.

Spoiler: LN SPOILERS

His parents abandoned him just after birth in front of an orphanage, because they were too poor to raise him and his fraternal twin. The orphanage where he was growing up went under when he was in the middle of an important tournament, he got adopted by a certain rich man. He was put under house arrest, he broke free, but he got too late for the match and the moment he went onto the playing field, his best friend got critically injured, cuz he was desperate to score. Later it turns out his step-father made the orphanage to go under and adopted him, because he beat a team a certain business parter of his step-father had his son playing in.

So yeah, I think it was kinda messed up past, but that's my opinion.

Spoiler

ok this makes much more sense ill take my statement back. when someone spoiled the whole reasoning of his past they only mentioned the soccer part and his friend getting injured. nothing bout the orphanage or business partners. I also find it semi funny I used the orphanage example w/o knowing about him being in the orphanage lmaooo

 

[Swordhaxor]

Spoiler

ok this makes much more sense ill take my statement back. when someone spoiled the whole reasoning of his past they only mentioned the soccer part and his friend getting injured. nothing bout the orphanage or business partners. I also find it semi funny I used the orphanage example w/o knowing about him being in the orphanage lmaooo

Happens to best of us... happens to best of us...

 

[ClothoBuer]

That was a whole lot of pages for nothing to happen.

 

[UdenEmpati]

That was a whole lot of pages for nothing to happen.

not every progression of plot involves present-moment action of characters.
Exposition/Lore Dump chapters aren't the most engaging, but they're critical for actually conveying the story, especially one like this that is predicated on past-tense events setting up the characters and the present narrative.

Unfortunately, they also need to be spaced out to avoid gigantic walls of text in a primarily-visual medium, but that doesn't mesh well with chapter-by-chapter releases of a current title, but.

It's this or read the novel, I guess.

 

[Sparky_]

Holy dialogue

 

[jolynehoestar]

such a weird series it is clear the strong sense of the series was that the interaction between the mc and her and the little sister. This kinda half-baked 8man-ish story line feels blewegessfdsa . Maybe they will cook tho

 

[blablablub]

I only have eyes for my cousin

Sweeeet hoooome Alabama 🎶

 

[UdenEmpati]

such a weird series it is clear the strong sense of the series was that the interaction between the mc and her and the little sister. This kinda half-baked 8man-ish story line feels blewegessfdsa . Maybe they will cook tho

It's setting the FL and ML up to resolve the ML's backstory that serves as the main point of resistance in advancing their relationship.
Because of the characterization given to the ML, all of this is necessary to convey, and then address, why he is the way he is, so that the FL can then work through it alongside him, wherein they can then grow closer together and see their relationship actually come about.

 

[alfirizkyr]

That's a pretty productive chapter—it sets clear Charlotte's expectations, Shimizu's stance, actually discussed a bit about Aoyagi's past (enough to show why Shimizu held such complicated views about the man, which is more than can be said for all the vague hints all the previous chapters did), and throttled the story onwards because now Charlotte has actual goalposts.

If anything, all this in one chapter felt rather fast, but I really want the air of mystery around Aoyagi's past to be blasted open so that Charlotte's path would be less-obscured to begin with, so.

 

[ZzombieNoel]

That luck sound effect was NOT necessary

Thanks for the TL

 

[Alteraucous]

I saw a spoiler for the "tragic backstory" and it isn't nearly that bad. I've come to the conclusion that his messiah complex is just self satisfaction and he's simply running away from his problems, thinking making himself hated is a form of "atonement". Dude is just a coward who can't accept that that past incident wasn't his fault. Just a stupid kid who thinks he's better or more important than everyone else. I'd honestly give him a good slapping to knock some sense into that thick skull of his if I could.

Yeah I saw that same spoiler. He has a messiah complex but also paints himself as a anti-hero. His "tragedy" is not as bad as it is. I also want to slap him good once you're done slapping him.

 

[MadScientist666]

So he is basically Hachiman and Hayato from Oregairu fused into one guy?

Actually I have seen a couple romcom MCs like that lately, now that I think about it.

Interesting view, I've never seen it that way.

In any case, I'd say, there is a bit more Hachiman than Hayato in him, if we want to stick to this comparison, you know, because of the social suicide thing and because he is not trying to play that perfect playboy role Hayato does.

 

[MadScientist666]

That was a whole lot of pages for nothing to happen.

Have you read the first book of "A Song of Ice And Fire", better known as "Game of Thrones"? Or the first book of "Wheel of Time"? The first one, two books of the "Foundation" series? Or the first few chapters of "Lord of the Rings" or "The Hobbit"? They're ok to fucking boring but very essential to set the world, to introduce characters, to help us imagine and understand the world the story is set in.

Sure, it's a bit unusual for an exposition chapter to happen in the middle of a story, but from what I know from the LN, this is sort of a moment where the story "gets broader" as Charlotte begins to learn more about Aoyagi and for that, an exposition is needed. Can it be done differently? Probably, but if you expect every chapter, every book of a story to be action and progress without end, then you don't know too much about how a story is usually structured.

 

[timcal2136]

Sweeeet hoooome Alabama 🎶

Glad im not the only one who noticed this, kinda weird how open she is about the incestuous crush 😂

 

[MaCl0wSt]

She said "Don't worry. I only have eyes for my cousin" after being asked if she likes him so nonchalantly, the hell?

Thanks for the chapter!

 

[namingwrongs]

Glad im not the only one who noticed this, kinda weird how open she is about the incestuous crush 😂

First cousins are the closest relation it's legal to marry in Japan, though he could also be a second or third cousin I suppose.

 

[UdenEmpati]

First cousins are the closest relation it's legal to marry in Japan, though he could also be a second or third cousin I suppose.

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