Maken no Daydreamer - Vol. 7 Ch. 41

[Liquidxlax]

@Vengeance22 when I think back on history class in school, I think you are right about them not teaching the important things and trying to get us to hate it. The other problem is knowing how deep into each event is because you could spend more than 12 years on historical events and still have only scratched the surface. I would personally look to teach about war and why it happens (usually), economic events that end in problems, important events in ones own country. events in other countries that impact our own and or neighbors greatly and events that affected everyone basically.

Meanwhile we were taught about things that honestly left no real mark in history. They never taught us about war, but they taught us the history about the poem called in Flanders fields or some shit from ww1. They didn't teach us anything about war, politics or economics. Where I live a traitor and criminal to Canada is somehow considered a founder of our province. We wasted lots of time on him but he spent little time even here while we spoke of not a single other person involved. Most of the history I know are from britanica and that other encyclopedia you could buy for pc in the 90s and early 00. One of the encyclopedis had a dungeon crawler type game to teach you about medieval times in europe. Can't say I remember much, but the walls of text were long. You'd have to answer questions to clues and other stuff. Which allowed you to find things, unlock doors and stuff. It'd horrible boring now, but it was a fun way to learn. While now I hope wikipedia is okay cause I don't feel like buying anything.

 

[Vengeance22]

@Liquidxlax Honestly I'm not very knowledgeable about the history of the Americas myself, just know bits and pieces, but from what I've been able to deduce is that there is a huge inferiority complex present in the heads of the main historians of the US and Canada and this is what makes them invent historical events that probably never even happened and erase others that are inconvenient to them. This probably stems from the cause that the North-American nations are young nations with far too little own history, so they fall behind a lot compared to Europe and Asia and that makes them irritated for some reason, since they have gotten used to, especially the US people, that they are the rulers of the world, so they should rule in everything, but history is not something you can just create like that, so instead of teaching proper history they decided to erase it completely or if completely is not possible then they will reform it to their liking. Hence why boring history was born, afterall if you hate something you will not desire to learn from it and if you do not learn from history you will be condemned to repeat it.
Just look at the so-called democratic movements in the US today, us in Europe have seen this already, some countries even twice in the previous century and they always ended in the same thing: hard-boiled communism, where freedom was a dream.
This is why the West is going to suffer, because they never experienced communism in it's truest sense, we in the East did, so we know it's not so ideal and free as they proclaim it, but everyone needs to learn from pain I guess, whether the West survives from it or not, that's up to you guys...

 

[KLGChaos]

@DrHizzle

That's what we call a Hobson's Choice. Where you're presented with options, but don't really have a choice of which to take.

I'm honestly fine with criminals being sold into slavery if there are no real prisons, given the time period. I'm not fine with children being sold into a lifetime of slavery because their parents wants money. I'm also not fine with Minato being completely unfazed by it. He really just comes off as a sociopath himself.

The author is also terrible at portraying slavery as a "hard decision" that isn't fully accepted. Mostly because he constantly seems to be pushing the slavers in a positive light and the group that opposes them as bad people. The way it's written makes it feel like the author condones it himself. I figure it's just bad writing, though, with a distinct lack of complexity or nuance on the subject.

 

[Liquidxlax]

@Vengeance22 I don't see why we need to make shit up. A lot of us have history that comes from Europe, Asia, South America and Africa. What is worse is how much Canada pays the aboriginals and land they give. The amount we are forced to give of tax payer money is retarded. The land they get either never gets used or it becomes a casino

 

[Vengeance22]

@Liquidxlax I don't know why they do it, but in recent times everything that comes out of America history-wise is anti-Europe propaganda and denial of the white ancestry and that the power of American nations is because of the wits and ability of white people, which is historical fact, but they wish to deny that for some reason, but without white people the Americas would still be mired in the human sacrificing ancestry of the Incas and Aztecs, so go figure...
Hell even Britain and France and the rest of Western Europe has been corrupted by this PC world already: In Britain you get a proffessorship at Cambridge University for calling for the genocide of white people and the ruling council of the university is fine with that, what has the world come to?

 

[Liquidxlax]

@Vengeance22 then they will say, "why do you even care. You'll be dead by that time anyways." Well, my family and descendants will be alive hopefully. I'd sure like it if they were able to live a better life than I did, but I don't know if that will happen if the dominant culture and people change. We know what happens to other countries where that has happened though wars were often needed to be fought to take a country over

 

[Vengeance22]

@Liquidxlax Yeah that's their main counter usually, since they don't think in tomorrows, only todays, which is quite stupid IMO, but most of them don't even want children, which is on one hand a blessing to the white race on the other hand a curse, it's a blessing because these liberals won't propagate, on the other hand it's a curse because right now what the white race requires is as many children as possible, since we are severely outnumbered worldwide, around 200 million in the US, 30 or so million in Canada, 25 million or so in Australia and around 400 million in Europe. That's a bit more than half of China's population and a third of India's, let's not speak of Africa which has a population boom nowadays and in 20 years their population will double, so whoever says the white race isn't in danger is either an idiot or a fucking liar.
I can tell already what will happen if the dominant culture changes and that is that the world will plunge back to the bronze age or early iron age and it will stay there because only the white race has been capable in history to move humanity forward, none of the other races could. Sure, the Chinese invented a lot of useful stuff, but it was whites who gave those items meaning, in Chinese hands they were only used for localised warfare and inland trade, in white hands they created the technologcal civilisation of today.
I don't know who came up with this quote, but it makes a helluva lot of sense to me seeing how the world is decaying:
"Hard times create strong men, strong men create properous times, prosperous times create weak men, weak men bring hard times."
Right now we are on the border of the prosperous times and hard times and our civilisation is dominated by weak men, so hard times are to follow big time, hence anyone that wants to survive should prepare well ahead while the prosperous times still last, because they won't for long, I give it at most 10 years and WWIII will be fought, this time along racial lines...

 

[SuraimuSuu]

When we arrived in Tron...

 

[Superboi777]

Everyone is having such philosophical debate here, but I just want to know what was whispered into that guy's ear

 

[AlanAlanSteve]

Finally, a TL that actually addresses a touchy subject with respect and sensibility.