Maou-jou de Oyasumi - Vol. 4 Ch. 52.5 - Extra arc: Good night at Komi-san’s house

[The5thSeraph]

@Nihilist1
I've got some doubts about whether they can enforce Japanese law on something that isn't within Japan, but sure. I guess if they got really uppity about it and hated gaijin reading their work then they could push the issue. Still, it isn't something I'd be worried about. And the licensing? Bah. What is legal isn't necessarily ethical. I'd recommend ignoring that too. It isn't like "official volumes" are even available most places, and they tend to be worse on average than fan translations.

Anyhow... yeah, okay, the scanlators can do what they please technically. Doesn't stop it being stupid and pointless though. Like trying to put decorative windows into a house when two walls have been smashed down. This was never about what they're able to do, but about what actually constitutes a sensible decision. Nobody would want to read a story if most of the middle part is missing, just like nobody would want to live in a house with missing walls, no matter how fancy the windows on the remainder.

Kinda funny that you expect something more as if you are entitled to it in the first place, maybe you should try scanlating yourselves anytime soon?

Just gonna focus on this briefly in isolation since I really don't take kindly to false accusations, and don't much care for the common cliché in the second half either.
I'm not demanding things due to any sense of entitlement. I'm criticising from a practicality standpoint. In practice I'll go along with whatever is around or move elsewhere as my whims dictate, but that isn't going to stop me calling shit out when I see it (and can't do anything about it directly).
And if I could read Japanese I wouldn't even be here in the first place. Literally, I would not have had the need that led me to this site in the first place, so I wouldn't be aware of its existence.
And assuming I had the ability and any interest in scanlating personally, I'd do it rather than talking about it. That is how I do things: What I can fix, I do, and what I can't fix, I highlight for others to do so. Unfortunately most people are unreliable so not only will they not fix problems they could fix when they see them, but they get annoyed at the existence of such things even being mentioned. Well whatever. As long as I consistently make sure to highlight every error I find and can't fix myself, someone might fix it eventually (and hundreds will get salty at me in the meanwhile for mentioning problems they want to ignore).

 

[Nihilist1]

@The5thSeraph
Whether the enforcement it is effective or not is still up to debate, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Before the release of online official platform mangaplus in 2019 Shueisha is notorious for hunting down scanlators that did any Jump series, other mags may try that method too if it served their purpose, that's why I told you the reasoning why komi scanlators took the preventive actions in case shogakukan or viz might do the same.

For your 2nd and 3rd paragraph
Then why do you take it up on me? If you have any sort of problems with the scanlators about the way they run the matter then talk to them! Not me! I only told you the reasoning behind the curtain why some series got its middle chapters removed and here you are going full defensive mode. It's funny since my comment you highlighted is the reply to your conclusion that still blames the scanlators and calls them cowards AFTER I explained to you why they just did it. Kinda proving my point about your sense of entitlement really.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@Nihilist1
It isn't as if I'm blaming you for the missing chapters personally. I just happen to be discussing it with you. I don't even know how I'd contact scanlators that erased their presence anyway.
And are you somehow under the misconception that scanlators removing content for cowardly reasons does not prove them to be cowards? Exactly how does any of that indicate any sense of entitlement on my part?

 

[Nihilist1]

@The5thSeraph
I don't know if you are just messing with me or not, but you can tag their name like you did to me and have a discussion that way whenever they released their chapter. Or go to their group comment page and ask them there. It's not that hard really.

And are you somehow under the misconception that scanlators removing content for cowardly reasons does not prove them to be cowards? Exactly how does any of that indicate any sense of entitlement on my part?

See? The fact that you can still call those actions taken as 'cowardly reasons' despite the existing LEGAL reason to do so in order to keep the manga up in the site is just mind blowing to me, like seriously I have told you all the reasons you need to know and yet we are still in square one. Your sense of entitlement is just up to the roof dude, all these free mangas here really makes you feel kinda high huh? If you never scanlate once in your life pretty sure you never see the hardships in it, so good job trying to salvage your way out with that previous comment of yours lol.

Don't even bother to reply me again, it feels like I'm talking to a goddamn rock.

 

[The5thSeraph]

@Nihilist1
Are you failing to understand that these chapters disappear all over the site on all sorts of manga and I don't have the slightest clue who even did it in each case?
How am I supposed to "just tag their name" when I don't even know the name I'm supposed to be tagging?
I can't tag "the scanlators" and get a hit.
Well anyway, this is all too much effort for a highly improbable payoff.

The fact that you can still call those actions taken as 'cowardly reasons' despite the existing LEGAL reason to do so in order to keep the manga up in the site is just mind blowing to me

Why? Do you follow every stupid law without question or something? II can't figure any other reason why you'd be struggling to get it.

Your sense of entitlement is just up to the roof dude

Assuming the roof has caved in and is scattered in pieces all over the floor, sure.
I have ZERO sense of entitlement. The whole concept of deserving things is stupid human nonsense that doesn't even enter my reasoning process at all. I'm not sure I ever even understood the concept. Probably requires religious thinking.
But I'd hazard a guess that means you regard any attempt by anyone to make things better for themselves, or just in more general terms, as "entitlement". Or is it just the fact that I'm criticising the poor handling of the situation?

For someone using "Nihilist" as a name, you couldn't be further from it, could you?
Ironic. The one labelled "Nihilist" can't understand nihilism, and the one named after an angel can't understand religious thinking. Heh.

If you never scanlate once in your life pretty sure you never see the hardships in it, so good job trying to salvage your way out with that previous comment of yours lol.

It is kinda baffling that you're acting as though you made some sort of sick burn, when all I see is you saying something stupid and puffing up your chest over it.
See, those hardships you speak of had already been gone through. The pages were here. Then they weren't. They were removed AFTER all those hardships, rendering them a waste. These people wasted their own effort for nothing, and here you are trying to defend it.
"Good job trying to salvage your way out with that previous comment of yours lol".

Don't even bother to reply me again, it feels like I'm talking to a goddamn rock.

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