Martial Peak - Ch. 68
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That's, like, 90% of wuxia MCs 😅
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Xianxia, not Wuxia, Wuxia heroes are MUCH more principled to a ridiculous degree in comparison.
Xianxia, not Wuxia, Wuxia heroes are MUCH more principled to a ridiculous degree in comparison.
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Yeah, first cultivation story I've ready and also first manhua, but I've seen a lot of people meme about them. I'm still waiting to read 'he had eyes, but could not see mount tai' and for someone to say 'jade beauty'.
Yeah, first cultivation story I've ready and also first manhua, but I've seen a lot of people meme about them. I'm still waiting to read 'he had eyes, but could not see mount tai' and for someone to say 'jade beauty'.
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@CBC My bad, still unsure about the difference, can you explain them to me?
@arghhhhhh I just need to see more "you are courting death!" and I'm set
@arghhhhhh I just need to see more "you are courting death!" and I'm set
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Wuxia (武俠) meaning "Martial Hero", is a genre that deals with stories of characters who are martial artists and follow an unsaid code known as Xia (俠), they mostly known as Xiake (俠客) or Youxia (遊俠). They generally don't serve anyone or belong to the aristocratic class, often coming from the lower classes of Chinese Society. Their main deal is protecting those that cannot protect themselves, redressing wrongs, fighting for justice, removing oppressors, and bringing retribution for past misdeeds. While all these can be framed in a variety of ways, the gist of it is that in a Wuxia story, the protagonist exists to cast down their opponent who, either through their pride or power, has taken to causing suffering for those that cannot fight back.
Xianxia (仙侠小说) meaning "Immortal Hero", on the other hand, is genre of stories that have most of the protagonist's focus on a few things, attaining immortality and peerless strength. It developed from Wuxia, with heavy influences from Taoism and Buddhism, as seen in the multiple worlds that a number of the stories possess alongside a cycle of reincarnation and the ever famous Xiuzhen (修真) "to cultivate" that allows a mortal Xiuxian (修仙) to transform themselves into an Immortal through various means (or Dao (Ways)) including Martial Arts. This genre is what gives us the Martial/Religious Sects that teach their students a cultivation technique unique to them and have them hone it further.
The critical difference between the two is that unlike Wuxia, Xianxia has no overarching set of rules or codes for the Practitioner to follow, only some vague as all hell Heavenly Karma that seems quite selective in how it punishes offenders. Due to this, Xianxia MCs (and authors) tend to go off the rails in the things they do or how they get results from their Cultivation.
Wuxia (武俠) meaning "Martial Hero", is a genre that deals with stories of characters who are martial artists and follow an unsaid code known as Xia (俠), they mostly known as Xiake (俠客) or Youxia (遊俠). They generally don't serve anyone or belong to the aristocratic class, often coming from the lower classes of Chinese Society. Their main deal is protecting those that cannot protect themselves, redressing wrongs, fighting for justice, removing oppressors, and bringing retribution for past misdeeds. While all these can be framed in a variety of ways, the gist of it is that in a Wuxia story, the protagonist exists to cast down their opponent who, either through their pride or power, has taken to causing suffering for those that cannot fight back.
Xianxia (仙侠小说) meaning "Immortal Hero", on the other hand, is genre of stories that have most of the protagonist's focus on a few things, attaining immortality and peerless strength. It developed from Wuxia, with heavy influences from Taoism and Buddhism, as seen in the multiple worlds that a number of the stories possess alongside a cycle of reincarnation and the ever famous Xiuzhen (修真) "to cultivate" that allows a mortal Xiuxian (修仙) to transform themselves into an Immortal through various means (or Dao (Ways)) including Martial Arts. This genre is what gives us the Martial/Religious Sects that teach their students a cultivation technique unique to them and have them hone it further.
The critical difference between the two is that unlike Wuxia, Xianxia has no overarching set of rules or codes for the Practitioner to follow, only some vague as all hell Heavenly Karma that seems quite selective in how it punishes offenders. Due to this, Xianxia MCs (and authors) tend to go off the rails in the things they do or how they get results from their Cultivation.
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@CBC Ah, so basically one is an Action Hero™, and the other is more of a straight up warrior/fighter that also sometimes happen to do heroic things? Is it right to assume that not all Wuxia are Xianxia, but all Xianxia are Wuxia?
Could you give me some examples of both? Like you said this one is a xianxia - what about, say, Feng Shen Ji or Tales of Demons and Gods? I feel like they're both more Wuxia than Xianxia, although ToDaG does have a lot of Xianxia elements... same with, say, Douluo Dalu, which also kinda feels like a mix of both. Does that make them Xianxia?
Chronicles of Heavenly Demon also feels like a Wuxia as well, in that his main goal isn't strength, but revenge, and strength is just a tool he uses to reach that goal
Could you give me some examples of both? Like you said this one is a xianxia - what about, say, Feng Shen Ji or Tales of Demons and Gods? I feel like they're both more Wuxia than Xianxia, although ToDaG does have a lot of Xianxia elements... same with, say, Douluo Dalu, which also kinda feels like a mix of both. Does that make them Xianxia?
Chronicles of Heavenly Demon also feels like a Wuxia as well, in that his main goal isn't strength, but revenge, and strength is just a tool he uses to reach that goal
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An...apt enough comparison I suppose, but I suggest you look at Wuxia MCs as being similar to the Knights or Paladins in European Legends of the Knights of the Round Table or Charlemagne's Twelve Paladins and other such heroic figures whose actions are informed by a Code of Conduct. While Xianxia MCs are your average DnD Player Character, they can be heroic people yes, but they can just as easily and quickly switch to being soul-less murderbots interested only in the final prize and strength.
As for Wuxia and Xianxia, it's kind of like how Rock'n'Roll or Hip Hop grew from the Blues. There are definite connections if you know what you're looking for, but they are not the same or even in the same genre. That's how I think the two are related to each other, but again, I am uncertain because I haven't made a serious study of this or am all that knowledgeable of the culture behind the two.
As for examples, Tales of Demons and Gods is most DEFINITELY Xianxia, Feng Shen Ji I do not know, but from what I've read up on it (tried reading it, doesn't catch my attention at all funnily enough) it seems to tick the Wuxia boxes. Douluo Dalu, I am uncertain of, but a number of reviews I've have put it as Xianxia.
About examples of either, note that this is only the stuff I've read or watched I feel are worth recommending, but your miles may vary tremendously:
> Wuxia: Jade Empire (Bioware Game), Reign of Assassins (Movie), Jin Yong (Author)
> Xianxia: Cultivation Chat Group (Comedic Take on the Genre)
An...apt enough comparison I suppose, but I suggest you look at Wuxia MCs as being similar to the Knights or Paladins in European Legends of the Knights of the Round Table or Charlemagne's Twelve Paladins and other such heroic figures whose actions are informed by a Code of Conduct. While Xianxia MCs are your average DnD Player Character, they can be heroic people yes, but they can just as easily and quickly switch to being soul-less murderbots interested only in the final prize and strength.
As for Wuxia and Xianxia, it's kind of like how Rock'n'Roll or Hip Hop grew from the Blues. There are definite connections if you know what you're looking for, but they are not the same or even in the same genre. That's how I think the two are related to each other, but again, I am uncertain because I haven't made a serious study of this or am all that knowledgeable of the culture behind the two.
As for examples, Tales of Demons and Gods is most DEFINITELY Xianxia, Feng Shen Ji I do not know, but from what I've read up on it (tried reading it, doesn't catch my attention at all funnily enough) it seems to tick the Wuxia boxes. Douluo Dalu, I am uncertain of, but a number of reviews I've have put it as Xianxia.
About examples of either, note that this is only the stuff I've read or watched I feel are worth recommending, but your miles may vary tremendously:
> Wuxia: Jade Empire (Bioware Game), Reign of Assassins (Movie), Jin Yong (Author)
> Xianxia: Cultivation Chat Group (Comedic Take on the Genre)
