Maseki Gurume: Mamono no Chikara wo Tabeta Ore wa Saikyou! - Vol. 2 Ch. 6 - Inhuman Power and Magic Stone Shop

[deathmailrock]

@BalrogDeMorgoth 1st, she wasn't doing her duty as a wife. That is something that should be noted. He never slept with her or had his son.

2nd, she KNEW that the kingdom has a culture that values abilities more, but rather than telling him about the son's ability, she hides it and hopes that he would go against the culture.

But no, somehow, because he's not allowing a kid who isn't even his son be the heir makes him bad.... if she was unwilling to be his wife, then she shouldn't have married him. She should have left sooner...

She acts like a bad wife and then acts like a victim is just stupid. She's not innocent. She was supposed to be a wife. But she wasn't. She just took the title, but then got sad when he neglected her the exact same way she neglected him.

She wasn't a good wife. In fact, their relationship couldn't be considered a marriage. She isn't being a good wife, she's not properly adapting to their culture and technically, the kid isn't even his real kid.

It's not his kid, but he has to favor him? And frankly, the MC's abilities were hidden while living in a culture that values abilities...

I mean, if being a cuck is your thing, that's one thing... but seriously, in any other story, the princess would have been the bad guy. The only reason she's painted as the victim is because she's the MC's mom....

Your entire argument is moot because she never put anything into their relationship. She was not a good wife, but then is somehow the victim because her husband is favoring a woman that actually sleeps with him and actually bears him a child.

She's neglected by him, but she's neglecting him as well. She could have left ages ago if she was unwilling to sleep with him. But she was hoping that he would favor her child over his own and that he would be loving and caring towards a woman that obviously wanted nothing to do with him.

Towards his actual son and his real wife, he actually seems to treat them well.

Your argument is like saying that because you know you'd fail the test, you won't study and then use failing the test as evidence that you were right.. but if you don't study, how the f*** can you fail the test?

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

@deathmailrock But he thought she did and still was an asshole to them, thus justifying the mother.

No, it doesn't value abilities, it value your stats sheet that has no influence on your governance skill and culture or not, him and his kingdom made a deal and didn't honor it, it's not her, it's on them.

Yeah, somehow he was a piece of shit who didn't hold up his end of the bargain while he was sure the wife did (which would make his slave basicaly).

What she wasn't willing to do is trust him immediatly and she was proven right since he didn't do any of the thing he was supposed to.

Except that as far as he knew, she was the perfect wife and he still didn't hold his end of the bargain so he is the piece of shit, she is righteous and was just smart enough to NOT be a victim, a victim who wouldn't be able to defend herself anymore if she did what he thought she did.

Read above, he didn't hold his end of the bargain and yet you still say she should have been his slave, that's the stupid part.

She never neglected him as far as he knew, try again or even try to actualy read the manga

'b-b-b-b-bad wife !!!!' once again, read above, she was the perfect wife as far as he knew and he still didn't do his part so no, she wasn't a bad wife, he was a bad husband and everything she did was justified.

'c-c-c-culture !!!!' Keep crying, they made a deal, they honor it 'm-m-m-my culture is to be a worthless scum who doesn't honor his deal !!!!' isn't an excuse, it just make you pathetic.

He thought it was his kid and he mistreated him still, you can't 'n-n-n-n-not his kid !!!' as a defense when he thought it was his kid.

'i-i-i-i-i mean !!!!!' say the dude crying about the mother not enslaving herself to a dude who proved himself to be scum.

Yeah, in another story, with another plot where the husband isn't filth and the mother not simply smart enough to not trust him, she could have been vaguely morally gray but in this story, with this plot, she is 100% in the right and the husband is 100% scum, factualy and objectively.

'm-m-m-m-moot !!!!!' cry the dude who didn't read the manga in absolute despair XD

Except He thought the mom had sex with him too so once again, he was sure she did everything she agreed to while he did nothing he promised to.

No, she didn't, she was literally taking care of most of his shit for him and he thought it was his kid too, once again, read the manga.

No, what she hoped is that he would hold up his end of the deal and he didn't, it's not a question of favors or even affection, they had specifics deals and he didn't hold up any of it.

*look at the MC and his mom* No, he treat them like shit or you mean the random second wife / mistress and the kid who shouldn't have herited anything according to a direct deal agreed by the husband ? said deal that he broke with what would have been no consequence if the Mother had been the retard you're advocating for her to be ?

'y-y-y-your argument !!!' wipe those tears and try to understand my argument before trying a bad analogy.

No, my argument is that avoiding turning yourself into a powerless slave to a guy who doesn't look trustworthy who then proceed to prove himself untrustworthy while thinking you're powerless to make him hold his end of the bargain because you're his slave make deceiving him about being his slave totaly legitimated.

't-t-t-test !!!!!' If you use a spell so the teacher think you got all the right answers and the teacher still fail you, you were right to not study, except that in this situation, taking the test at all would make you the teacher's powerless slave for life.

 

[deathmailrock]

@BalrogDeMorgoth You keep on saying that he didn't keep his end of the bargain... but that's not true. In their culture, the stat sheet IS what matters, and the MC was qualified in that regard but his mom didn't let people know that.

And frankly, she wasn't being a good wife at all. She purposely HID her son's ability... she showed him as someone incompetent... but then expected that incompetent son to be the heir... and frankly, again, what she did was immoral itself.

She wasn't willing to marry him, she didn't properly be with him... you don't do sh*t like that... no matter how much of an asshole he was... if marriage is that important for them, then they shouldn't do it in that situation.

The situation itself is stupid. As an obvious stronger nation, they didn't need to sacrifice their princess and if marriage is literally that big of a deal, they shouldn't even use it as a political tool.

I mean, think about it... if properly bearing your husband a kid would make her a slave, then why the f*** would a stronger nation allow their daughter to marry a NOBEL of a weaker nation like that. It's just plain stupid.

She should NEVER have married him. Plain and simple. In fact, because of her ability to give birth without a man, that means a marriage would even be unneeded. The very premise of this situation is just plain stupid.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

@deathmailrock 'c-c-c-culture' isn't an excuse, they made a deal with another country for very specific reason with specific condition, he didn't fulfill them thus he didn't hold up his end of the bargain.

No, he wasn't qualified because in their culture, his skill was worthless, how else it could be used ISN'T part of their culture, that's the point, that's why they are backwaters idiots to the rest of the world.

No, she didn't, everyone knew it's name and vaguely what it did, it's not on her, everything about him was public.

No, it's not immoral to want someone to do what they accepted to do in exchange for something, that's basic logic, he made a deal where her kid would be the heir so he has to be the heir or the deal is worthless (and if she hadn't tricked him, the deal being worthless would have meant nothing for her because she'd biologicaly be his slave, so her and the kid couldn't have done shit about any of it).

Yes, you do, when the other dude is clearly gonna double cross you, you make counter measure and if he does try, you're not bad for having been smart.

The marriage isn't THAT important but it's profitable to either party...until the father broke literally every part of it, making it worthless.

The problem isn't the marriage, the problem is one kingdom not holding up their deal, the mother was clearly okay with keeping up the marriage as long as he didn't break the rules and he did when he rejected her kid.

...That's literally what princess are for : to marry to other nation, that she'd be a slave to whoever she bear children with is just how all dryad are and on a kingdom scale doesn't change that if the other country broke the deal, they could raze the country, it would just be a tragedy on a personal scale, not kingdom wide.

No, because she didn't marry him for kids, she married him as part of a deal between kingdoms as all royal marriages are, that's kinda a big part of why HER kid had to be the heir in the deal.

 

[deathmailrock]

@BalrogDeMorgoth No, the deal was for THEIR child to be the next head... but it's not just that; frankly, if marriage and sex is THAT big of a deal where it would tie her life to the dude, then it shouldn't have been done.

It's nothing more than a cheap excuse on the author's part to make mommy "pure" or something... they could easily have just made some other noble marry instead, one who wouldn't be enslaved for doing the normal deed that's supposed to come in marriage...

The fact that doing a normal act for marriage would lead to being bound that way means that she shouldn't really have been used for a political marriage in that regard....

 

[imfromkissmangabutitsgone]

Isekai is one hell of a drug...

I mean look at them jesus...

 

[firosahoge]

so his mom is still a virgin? Wow... all this fantasy... what's genetics then? Can I ship Olivia x mc in peace?!

 

[Ashisu]

@firosahoge you do get that's even worse right? like fucking your twin lol

reproduction by budding op tho

 

[firosahoge]

@Ashisu genetics doesn't matter when there's MAGIC

 

[Ashisu]

hey i mean they're all pictures at the end of the day right

 

[Frostoy]

what the fuck happened here

 

[PPISOVER9000]

It’s not an isekai if there’s no man who is a woman

 

[MXCL]

Ah, Japan.

 

[Dragonbolt03]

That time I was reincarnated as fucking Cell from Dragonball Z

 

[dahhv2]

Ha ha, so he has no obligation to the his former house, nice once Japan

 

[ihatethisfeature123]

YES SIR

 

[Jinyo]

So he isn't even king logas son. So king logas did nothing wrong, and dryad mom didn't keep her word either. And by the last page it seems ishtalica harbors degenerates. I am conflicted on whether to like this kingdom now.

 

[Ildaggerll]

Reincarnated by the process of ROOTING STEM CUTTING

 

[dnoj]

all hail ainz-sama! long live nazarick!
wait, wrong franchise

 

[MAU1704]

That last panel felt like a cursed image.