Mezametara Saikyou Soubi to Uchuusen-mochi datta node, Ikkodate Mezashite Youhei Toshite Jiyuu ni Ikitai - Ch. 54.1

[Mukapower3]

One day AI. Will ask "am i matter to you?".

 

[deadrabbits]

No, no, bullshit, no, I don’t buy that. Does she have digital DNA? Did they back-engineer it off of her physical appearance, which is impossible, and no I won’t let it slide under the heading of “sci-fi space magic” because what if the customer selects something that standard human anatomy can’t reproduce, propotions-wise or anatomy or even a non-standard skin, hair, or eye color? (Tell me nobody’s ever bought a gynoid with blue hair, I triple dare you.) Are their offspring baseline human, or do they inherit some of the gynoid’s enhanced physical or mental capabilities? If it’s the latter, and I’d bet money it’s the latter, how did they encode that into the DNA, given that those capabilities are explicitly mechanical in nature? And if they can do that, why are they building the droids at all? And why don‘t we see natural humans enhanced through gene therapy?

I will not get off this hill, I don’t care what a dork I’m being, and in conclusion I’d like a chocolate Frosty and a large fries, thank you

"tell me nobody's ever bought a gynoid with blue hair"
Dude, Wiska has blue hair, and dwarfs can procreate with humans. Also all nobles get genetic enhancement surgery, you can do anything you want with it.

 

[tonie]

One day AI. Will ask "am i matter to you?".

I begin my talk with chat gpt calling him junk that is overfed on electricity and that cannot do anything right it usually can't so probably they won't bother asking me.

 

[Tamult]

No, no, bullshit, no, I don’t buy that. Does she have digital DNA? Did they back-engineer it off of her physical appearance, which is impossible, and no I won’t let it slide under the heading of “sci-fi space magic” because what if the customer selects something that standard human anatomy can’t reproduce, propotions-wise or anatomy or even a non-standard skin, hair, or eye color? (Tell me nobody’s ever bought a gynoid with blue hair, I triple dare you.) Are their offspring baseline human, or do they inherit some of the gynoid’s enhanced physical or mental capabilities? If it’s the latter, and I’d bet money it’s the latter, how did they encode that into the DNA, given that those capabilities are explicitly mechanical in nature? And if they can do that, why are they building the droids at all? And why don‘t we see natural humans enhanced through gene therapy?

I will not get off this hill, I don’t care what a dork I’m being, and in conclusion I’d like a chocolate Frosty and a large fries, thank you

I mean, technically not every species in space is even Human, ya know? Elma is an elf. Wiska and Tina are dwarves with natural hair colors that include blue. Every space noble is given genetic modifications and cybernetics post birth to make them literally superhuman compared to baseline. This gives them dumb reflexes like deflecting lasers and bullets with swords. Which we saw with Chris' uncle. So we do see 'natural' humans enhanced.

Beastfolk with Kenomimi features exist. Nanomachines are the 'universal vaccine' that Hiro and his crew have. Meat is manufactured using some weird tentacle substrate that caused an outbreak. You don't think the companies here can make an artificial womb?

Pirates also are said to make those they capture into things straight out of 40k. Living furniture and toys, not just slaves of every stripe. Tech level here is pretty high, all things considered.

Also, minor plot point for later, but Designer Babies are somewhat illegal, iirc.

I'd assume that since it was Hiro making the purchase, it was designed compatible with human biology. Also, note Serena has super red-eyes, and Chris has purple. Chris also has two-tone hair, lighter on the inside like Mei's. Perhaps the genome expanded or certain non-standard colors were added.

Droids are cheap and replaceable, and are used in many things. Maidroid's are expensive.

Also, Hiro is very rich for a mercenary. So consider cost and opportunity as a major hurdle, as well as societal ranking.

 

[CapnAndy]

"tell me nobody's ever bought a gynoid with blue hair"
Dude, Wiska has blue hair, and dwarfs can procreate with humans. Also all nobles get genetic enhancement surgery, you can do anything you want with it.

I'd assume that since it was Hiro making the purchase, it was designed compatible with human biology. Also, note Serena has super red-eyes, and Chris has purple. Chris also has two-tone hair, lighter on the inside like Mei's. Perhaps the genome expanded or certain non-standard colors were added.

I still think it’s abject nonsense, especially if the hypothetical baby somehow inherits Mei’s physical or mental advantages, but… fine. They’re such clever genetic engineers that there’s nothing you can design that they can’t grow, fine. But I don’t like it.

 

[Firemorfox]

Mei is probably my favorite from this series. Even way farther ahead in the LN she still is best girl to me.

Mei is definitely my favorite as well. Mortality and lifespan gaps give her relation a depth the others don't quite match.

 

[caiban123bo]

…how

Wombforce6900

 

[Snuffy.Flicks]

No, no, bullshit, no, I don’t buy that. Does she have digital DNA? Did they back-engineer it off of her physical appearance, which is impossible, and no I won’t let it slide under the heading of “sci-fi space magic” because what if the customer selects something that standard human anatomy can’t reproduce, propotions-wise or anatomy or even a non-standard skin, hair, or eye color? (Tell me nobody’s ever bought a gynoid with blue hair, I triple dare you.) Are their offspring baseline human, or do they inherit some of the gynoid’s enhanced physical or mental capabilities? If it’s the latter, and I’d bet money it’s the latter, how did they encode that into the DNA, given that those capabilities are explicitly mechanical in nature? And if they can do that, why are they building the droids at all? And why don‘t we see natural humans enhanced through gene therapy?

I will not get off this hill, I don’t care what a dork I’m being, and in conclusion I’d like a chocolate Frosty and a large fries, thank you

Hiro even questions how it's done "is it some kind of cloning?"

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They still haven't covered everything about the AIs in the books, and in the Webnovels they finally admitted that the AIs won the war and are running the empire behind the scenes. They've also questioned if Mei is also chatting with the leader AIs as well. Time will tell, maybe the kiddo will be born enhanced like nobles, Chris was finally enhanced and she barrel rolls into shit now. Also she was older than Hiro thought, her and Mimi are 6 months apart, she was just a late bloomer.

 

[Snuffy.Flicks]

Missing dwarf-girl horror stories!

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Not sure why they didn't tell some of the stories, Wiz was painting a ship and got paint on her ass and left ass-prints everywhere, Tina was tired and went to work in her PJs....

 

[amamiya426]

her having fear is directly against her programming as a bodyguard ai

It's already been noted multiple times AIs are granted 'personality rights', the fear is something instinctual for any being that has sentience and life which can be threatened simply with how fearsome the crystal lifeforms are.
Even Hiro and the other mercs wouldn't go near crystal monsters if they weren't paid supidly high enough. And Hiro himself requested rights to order a retreat if shit hits the fan.

Imo, Mei's personality develpment past her programming is her growing some comradery with the other crew members, since at the start it was only because the other girls were impotant to Hiro.

 

[Tatsuya-Kai]

It's already been noted multiple times AIs are granted 'personality rights', the fear is something instinctual for any being that has sentience and life which can be threatened simply with how fearsome the crystal lifeforms are.
Even Hiro and the other mercs wouldn't go near crystal monsters if they weren't paid supidly high enough. And Hiro himself requested rights to order a retreat if shit hits the fan.

Imo, Mei's personality develpment past her programming is her growing some comradery with the other crew members, since at the start it was only because the other girls were impotant to Hiro.

Nothing i said disagrees with what you said, my point was mei isn't like this because she was programmed to be, she's like this because mei is well, mei.

As a spoiler above points out

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The ai's won the war and more or less run things (though humans are given a ton of autonomy, well beyond what any human "big brother" ever would), so it makes you wonder if humanity in this setting even is actually humanity in the first place or some kind of cybernetic designer species, considering hiro is genetically VERY unique in comparison to the races of this world, but that is just speculation on my part.

Well some of it is not shown yet, but yes she's protective of the crew, especially hiro, my point was it's not just her programming anymore, she directly wants to.

 

[Solipsist]

Full respects to @deadrabbits for completely throwing off everyone with that "android can get preggers" comment. :u

I probably wouldn't prefer the more robotic structures as you've outlined, but I also get quite frustrated where sci-fi have AI of some kind that's essentially just people, but totally different we swear. The reality is "AI" as we have it now is it not and never will be what's depicted here. No matter how advanced it gets, it's code running on a computer. Code that's really just such an advanced form of text-prediction (like typing on your phone) that it becomes a great example of "sufficiently advanced technology becomes indistinguishable from magic" (look into the term "stochastic parrot").

These fictional kinds of "AI" would only be possible through a non-digital means; blade runner style replicants or an entire artificially manufcatured lifeform; brain along with sensory systems to allow it to interact with the world (an engineering problem completely separate from modern computing with 0s and 1s). The only artificial part is how it's created at that point, but it also means all these portrayed advantages like having the processing speed of a highly-advanced CPU couldn't possibly be the case.

I try to just ignore it and see these characters as superhuman cyborgs since there's too many enjoyable things I'd have to avoid if I couldn't. But when an author who clearly isn't informed on the issues tries to dig deeper and just throws random technical jargon around to justify "the digital AI is really just like us, guys!", or too often has the character break established behaviour to have things like "I'm an AI, I don't understand my feelings" moments as if they've just remembered the character isn't supposed to be a normal person only to immediately forget it again after, I can't really enjoy it anymore.

Mhm, respect.
I never got to the point "I can't possibly read this anymore, this is too silly", when it came to robots specifically (there are many other reasons tho :v)
That being said, I think I only read 1 sci-fi book that tried to explain how an artificial-brain, with electrical pulses void of chemical buffers, would function. Something tells me more recent novels, would go for "something something, quantum chips, something something..."

 

[Jayvlad16]

Thank you for this chapter! 🤛🏼😃👍🏼

 

[senpaikohai]

Idk why but when Mei is acting like that, it reminds me of Neuro-sama asking Vedal if she matters to him ahhhhh

 

[Bibliothecarius]

Thanks for the chapter!!!

 

[welcome2atlantis]

This Captain Hiro, pulling back because of some crystal lifeforms? Surely you jest!

 

[deadrabbits]

Full respects to @deadrabbits for completely throwing off everyone with that "android can get preggers" comment. :u

Mhm, respect.
I never got to the point "I can't possibly read this anymore, this is too silly", when it came to robots specifically (there are many other reasons tho :v)
That being said, I think I only read 1 sci-fi book that tried to explain how an artificial-brain, with electrical pulses void of chemical buffers, would function. Something tells me more recent novels, would go for "something something, quantum chips, something something..."

Mei has a positronic brain aka an antimatter brain.

 

[bakanisan]

yeah, about that...she gets added later on as well.

Until which volume of the LN if you have to guess? Because as of vol.13 she's still not in...

 

[tonie]

Until which volume of the LN if you have to guess? Because as of vol.13 she's still not in...

All of these people are talking about it for the past couple chapters like annoying buzzing flies because those are the LN volumes that just came out in JP and aren't yet translated to EN officially.
So I guess they either know it from webnovel, JP LN or synopsis and illustrations of the next volumes from JP version that are out there.

I got spoiled myself trying to look up some of her cute illustrations that I saw reading earlier, not realizing there are also those ahead of the current one out (Beware!) and then read synopsis of the books that are about to come out (Never again...).

So in reality there's not much to be even looking forward to for average manga consumer if we consider how many years it'll take to get there. Just look at how many years it took us up to here.

 

[Snuffy.Flicks]

Until which volume of the LN if you have to guess? Because as of vol.13 she's still not in...

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