Mia-ga dorawatda - Ch. 1

[Chronigan]

Seriously?
"Better get lost while I'm saying it nicely, before I reduce your odd-numbered parents to zero"

What is an odd numbered parent?

 

[wallsg]

What is an odd numbered parent?

Maybe it's an Unwed Mother insult.

I asked ChatGPT "is being an unwed mother particularly shameful in japan or korea" and it turns out that it's really bad in South Korea.

"South Korea has one of the strongest remaining stigmas in developed countries regarding out-of-wedlock births."

Spoiler: Full Answer

Short answer: It is not as stigmatized as it used to be in either Japan or Korea, but South Korea still tends to carry significantly more social stigma than Japan.


Here’s the breakdown:

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🇯🇵 Japan​

Stigma level: moderate, declining

• Historically, being an unwed mother in Japan carried social stigma, but attitudes have softened a lot in the past 20–30 years.
• Japan’s rising rates of late marriage, declining birth rate, and more diverse family structures have made single motherhood more socially accepted, though not completely free of judgment.
• Challenges still exist:
  • Some workplace discrimination.
  • Social assumptions that children “should” have two parents.
  • Economic difficulties (single mothers in Japan face high poverty rates).

Overall:
Being an unwed mother in Japan is not considered “particularly shameful” today, though older generations may still hold conservative views.

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🇰🇷 South Korea​

Stigma level: high, though slowly improving

• South Korea has one of the strongest remaining stigmas in developed countries regarding out-of-wedlock births.
• Cultural emphasis on traditional family structure and bloodlines means being an unwed mother can still lead to:
  • Social judgment and exclusion.
  • Family pressure or rejection.
  • Greater workplace bias.
  • Serious economic hardship.
• Until recently, Korea had one of the lowest percentages of births outside marriage among OECD nations (well under 5% for many years).

However, attitudes are slowly changing, especially among younger Koreans, with more public visibility and activism around single motherhood.


Overall:
Yes, in South Korea it is still seen as much more shameful than in Japan, though this is gradually shifting.

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Summary Table​

Country	Level of Stigma	Modern Trend
Japan	Moderate, but not extreme	Decreasing — largely generational
South Korea	High	Slowly decreasing but still strong

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If you want, I can also explain:

• How both countries’ laws treat unwed mothers
• Differences in welfare support
• How opinions vary by age group
• Historical reasons for the stigma

Just let me know!

 

[ycnbm_8]

Thats the worst moto I´ve heard in a while.

 

[LemonLies]

What is an odd numbered parent?

She's insulting him by saying he was raised by a single parent, and goes on to threaten to kill his remaining one (although obviously she doesn't seem to mean it).

It's a little bit like the common western meme of replying to someone acting embarassing with "fatherless behavior" or the like, with a not unheard of bonus death threat tacked on for flavor

 

[Chronigan]

She's insulting him by saying he was raised by a single parent, and goes on to threaten to kill his remaining one (although obviously she doesn't seem to mean it).

It's a little bit like the common western meme of replying to someone acting embarassing with "fatherless behavior" or the like, with a not unheard of bonus death threat tacked on for flavor

Which western country uses that fatherless behavior insult?

 

[LemonLies]

Which western country uses that fatherless behavior insult?

I had the impression it was common across the Anglophone internet, but I'm from the United States and I've heard it irl here, so it may be an American thing.

 

[Chronigan]

I had the impression it was common across the Anglophone internet, but I'm from the United States and I've heard it irl here, so it may be an American thing.

I'm from Texas and never heard it. Closestvthing I can think of is "were you raised in a barn?" Or "were you raised by wolves?"

 

[LemonLies]

I'm from Texas and never heard it. Closestvthing I can think of is "were you raised in a barn?" Or "were you raised by wolves?"

Definitely heard those as well. I'm from Washington state, so it might be a regional or generational thing.