More thorough filter for hentai pls :rejected:

[Vengeance22]

Hi all, for the past few days I've noticed a massive influx of childporn to mangadex and honestly I'm quite sick of having to even view those to make sure they are childporn before reporting, so it would be a good thing if a more serious filter could be implemented that would automatically flag childporn to moderators so they can immediately remove this type of morally illegal content.
Hentai is only good until it doesn't encroach on the base of moral values and that is violence or sexual assault against children, when it does that IMO it should be severely stamped out no matter how many perverts out there enjoy them!
So please can this be done?
Thanks in advance!

 

[Pika]

Well, if you dislike loli and shota that much you can exclude them in your settings

Spoiler

As if reading full manga volumes for free is morally legal

 

[ItsQuote]

1) automated tagging/flagging/classification systems are inaccurate to a rather significant degree, especially if you're asking a computer to somehow make a moral judgment.
2) this is your moral code, not that of the admins. the site as a whole shouldn't bend to your individual whims and requirements.
3) while this may not be the case worldwide, in the areas where this site exists what you're describing isn't illegal, otherwise we wouldn't even be here having this conversation right now. therefore, user tools are provided to let you filter out content you don't want to see.
4) equating loli/shota porn with child sexual assaults is dubious at best and grossly insulting at worst, and is a quick way to make enemies in this community. please choose your words with greater care.

 

[Pika]

@ItsQuote
I agree

equating loli/shota porn with child sexual assaults is dubious at best and grossly insulting at worst

But it depends on what stuffs he reads though, maybe he only read the hardcore stuffs and never saw the fluffy ones

 

[ItsQuote]

@Pika that's very true, perhaps healing fluff can tend some wounds. and also THANKS for reminding me i have an episode of senko-san in the queue.

 

[Plykiya]

@Vengeance22 We don't have any plans to remove loli/shota hentai from the website. Drawn depictions aren't illegal in most parts of the world (including the US and Japan) and real stuff is already banned in the rules. Would also be ironic if we banned loli hentai when we translate it ourselves, lol.

 

[Vengeance22]

@ItsQuote
"4) equating loli/shota porn with child sexual assaults is dubious at best and grossly insulting at worst, and is a quick way to make enemies in this community. please choose your words with greater care."

So you're saying depicting childrape is nothing special huh? And that pointing out that it is I get many enemies here? Well I sure as hell don't want to be friends with people who like to abuse even in their heads innocent children, so yeah hate me if you want I will still call people like that dirty perverts.

@Pika
What's fluffy about a grown guy stuffing his dick into a 5-6 yr old little girl? Tell me oh wise person of the interwebs, pls... And would you like it if that happened to your daughter? Or are you the kind of person who would do it himself hmm? Do educate us "backward" people who don't want to be "enlightened"....

 

[Teasday]

_{@Vengeance22 posted:}

it would be a good thing if a more serious filter could be implemented that would automatically flag childporn to moderators so they can immediately remove this type of morally illegal content.

"Morally illegal" aside (what does that even mean), if you're in fact talking about loli-themed hentai, you'd do well to notice that even some members of the staff occasionally scanlate and/or post it.

 

[ItsQuote]

if you're gonna tag me, at least say something that isn't ad hominem. but i digress:

So you're saying depicting childrape is nothing special huh?

you quoted my line word for word: i said nothing of the sort. i said equating the two is problematic.

And that pointing out that it is I get many enemies here?

considering this site serves loli/shota hentai by choice (as you are well aware), there is a group of people who come to this site specifically for it. calling every single one of them rapists is a good way to make enemies, yes.

Well I sure as hell don't want to be friends with people who like to abuse even in their heads innocent children, so yeah hate me if you want I will still call people like that dirty perverts.

ok (for the record, i don't hate you).

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

@Vengeance22

Not another one. I've seen enough of these on the internet already with all their dumb and same old arguments.

Here is an absolute fluff of a loli manga

and here's a super ecchi, borderline hentai, manga that will ruin your trust in me.

Neither are hentai.

Equating loli/shota with childporn is just stupid. What you are saying is basically the same as "violent video games create violent personalities", or if you don't play video games, "killers use hands to kill, therefore all hands should be amputated so that no murders will happen".

It's just idiotic. Stop this argument before you embarrass yourself more.

And if you tag me as well, bring a valid argument and not another ad hominem.

 

[Pika]

I wonder what kind of reaction will he have if he knows that there is amputation and cannibalism in here too

Most loli hentai just looks like "petite" or whatever that tag is called

 

[ABCsOfLife]

Oh thanks for that explanation, I was a bit confused everytime I saw that rule and then I saw a hentai about loli passing by.

Doesn't count as child porn, got it.

 

[Pika]

@ABCsOfLife
People associate child porn as real people children porn, not drawn lolis and shotas
Mods definitely will step in if someone ever dares to upload that

 

[phage83]

@Plykiya yes it is against federal law in the US. https://www.shouselaw.com/blog/CA-animation

 

[AirisuB]

@Vengeance22
YOU DARE MOCK THE ART THAT IS LOLIS? THEIR PURENESS? THEIR TIMELESSNESS???

You sir have NO TASTE!!!

I SAY GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
I SAY GOOD DAY!!!!

 

[DANDAN_THE_DANDAN]

That's a man of culture right there

 

[ABCsOfLife]

Ok.. Now I'm lost.

 

[ItsQuote]

@phage83 that specifically calls out the PROTECT act, which was partially gutted in 2008. it's currently a legal gray area in the US as some states have laws on the books banning loli/shota hentai but there isn't an explicit banning of it at the federal level after those cases.

(disclaimer: just another perl hacker, not a lawyer.)

 

[Teasday]

This thread is just going to become worse and worse if it's not locked. Our policy regarding the matter should be clear. If you want to avoid certain tags, please exclude them in your settings and report titles that are missing them.