Mousou Sensei - Vol. 4 Ch. 54 - Two Thousand For A Sesh

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Such a strict prohibition seems unlikely when themed cafes are a standard part of the cultural festival arcs. I have no doubt real life school cultural festivals are nothing like in manga, but this is manga. There was a cosplay cafe in this very manga's cultural festival. Seems kind of strange the school would allow it and then not allow it.
The school can keep an eye on that, and it runs once and can't interfere with school since it is school. I don't think it's any kind of plot hole. Not that we should really be worried about plot holes in this manga.
 
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I was rereading this and isn't it your own idea that caused this exact situation, sensei?
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The school can keep an eye on that, and it runs once and can't interfere with school since it is school.

No, isn't it the opposite? School is a place of education. You learn there stuff you then use later in life outside of the school. So, how can a school teach a themed cafe is fine at school, but outside of the school it's not fine? That's the opposite to what a school should be doing.
 
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No, isn't it the opposite? School is a place of education. You learn there stuff you then use later in life outside of the school. So, how can a school teach a themed cafe is fine at school, but outside of the school it's not fine? That's the opposite to what a school should be doing.
Because they're not saying a student can't grow up and work at a themed café. They're saying that students, while children, should not work at a place where unsavory things can happen. Presumably that wouldn't apply in a classroom where they know there's no management pressure to accommodate creepy people and such. It's about oversight.
 
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Because they're not saying a student can't grow up and work at a themed café. They're saying that students, while children, should not work at a place where unsavory things can happen. Presumably that wouldn't apply in a classroom where they know there's no management pressure to accommodate creepy people and such. It's about oversight.

That still doesn't explain the fundamental problem. Why allow it at school at all, in that case? Just allow only cultural festival cafes that aren't themed or the theme is merely the sort of uniform you would find in any regular restaurant/cafe that hasn't any particular theme, apart from a possible corporate image, if you can call that a theme (like all McDonalds everywhere in the world look the same). Then there would be zero mixed signals. What's the point of saying this is okay at school under supervision but not okay outside? Just make it not okay at all and that's it. Once the student has graduated, they can go work in a themed cafe all they want.

It would be a different thing if the school was rejecting even a little bit sexualised themes (judged by someone else than Momo-chan-sensei, for whom a person working in full hazmat suit would still be erotic). Then it's a no-brainer it's no good as a student part-time job.
 
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That still doesn't explain the fundamental problem. Why allow it at school at all, in that case? Just allow only cultural festival cafes that aren't themed or the theme is merely the sort of uniform you would find in any regular restaurant/cafe that hasn't any particular theme, apart from a possible corporate image, if you can call that a theme (like all McDonalds everywhere in the world look the same). Then there would be zero mixed signals. What's the point of saying this is okay at school under supervision but not okay outside? Just make it not okay at all and that's it. Once the student has graduated, they can go work in a themed cafe all they want.

It would be a different thing if the school was rejecting even a little bit sexualised themes (judged by someone else than Momo-chan-sensei, for whom a person working in full hazmat suit would still be erotic). Then it's a no-brainer it's no good as a student part-time job.
The school has 100% veto power and full control over a school festival event. To allow outside themed cafe work under your standard, they would have to scope out each cafe on a case-by-case basis to gauge the client base and the employee uniforms. Plus, any parent looking to complain would jump at hearing a student is working at a themed cafe.

I have no idea why you think this situation is weird. Institutions blanket ban stuff to cover loose ends constantly and the student in question was hiding her job in the first place. You've literally seen five minutes of her workday and are preparing for a crusade about student freedom.
 
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The school has 100% veto power and full control over a school festival event. To allow outside themed cafe work under your standard, they would have to scope out each cafe on a case-by-case basis to gauge the client base and the employee uniforms. Plus, any parent looking to complain would jump at hearing a student is working at a themed cafe.

I have no idea why you think this situation is weird. Institutions blanket ban stuff to cover loose ends constantly and the student in question was hiding her job in the first place. You've literally seen five minutes of her workday and are preparing for a crusade about student freedom.
The chapter didn't explicitly state if Sakurada knew about needing a permission and the cosplay prohibition. When she heard about the permission thing, she immediately asked for a permission from Momo-chan-sensei. Of course not knowing the rules is no excuse, but technically she might not have known and was thus eager to get the permission. That being said, any decent parent would already know where their kid will be working part-time and either accept or not accept it. Negligent parents would neither care nor cause trouble. I'd assume you'd need a parent's permission for the school to give a permission. Based on her personality, I imagine Sakurada's parents wouldn't deny a ninja cafe job.

I don't actually think this is particularly weird. It's exactly as you said: an arbitrary blanket decision that doesn't care about the reality. That job is not different from a job in a regular cafe, more or less, because the uniform isn't erotic. The place also wouldn't hire a minor if there was anything erotic about the job. It's just a goofy cafe. Like a cat cafe or something. I just said that since Momo-chan-sensei so aggressively rejected it, she should show her quality as an educator and show Sakurada another place that would be okay, as long as the permission issue is sorted out. If a student makes a mistake, don't say just "No", show how it's done correctly. I wouldn't say this to a RL teacher, though, because in RL teachers work hard for low pay.
 
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The chapter didn't explicitly state if Sakurada knew about needing a permission and the cosplay prohibition. When she heard about the permission thing, she immediately asked for a permission from Momo-chan-sensei. Of course not knowing the rules is no excuse, but technically she might not have known and was thus eager to get the permission. That being said, any decent parent would already know where their kid will be working part-time and either accept or not accept it. Negligent parents would neither care nor cause trouble. I'd assume you'd need a parent's permission for the school to give a permission. Based on her personality, I imagine Sakurada's parents wouldn't deny a ninja cafe job.

I don't actually think this is particularly weird. It's exactly as you said: an arbitrary blanket decision that doesn't care about the reality. That job is not different from a job in a regular cafe, more or less, because the uniform isn't erotic. The place also wouldn't hire a minor if there was anything erotic about the job. It's just a goofy cafe. Like a cat cafe or something. I just said that since Momo-chan-sensei so aggressively rejected it, she should show her quality as an educator and show Sakurada another place that would be okay, as long as the permission issue is sorted out. If a student makes a mistake, don't say just "No", show how it's done correctly. I wouldn't say this to a RL teacher, though, because in RL teachers work hard for low pay.
I'm assuming Sakurada has both societal awareness and basic knowledge of how part time work is for teenagers, because she's a functioning person that is shown multiple times to be a good communicator with drive. I'm annoyed that your version of charitability requires her to be naive to a degree she's never displayed.

I can't believe you're thinking a workplace that lets people pay to have the waitress perform for you is the same as a cat cafe. It's actively incentivizing appealing to the customer while putting employees in miniskirts.

Sensei stopped her from working at that job, gave a lecture, and then banned part time work for a period. Expecting job hunting services on top of that is nuts.
 
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I can't believe you're thinking a workplace that lets people pay to have the waitress perform for you is the same as a cat cafe. It's actively incentivizing appealing to the customer while putting employees in miniskirts.

It's what now? I didn't know miniskirts were anything special in Japan, especially mangaland Japan. But maybe times have changed.

Sensei stopped her from working at that job, gave a lecture, and then banned part time work for a period. Expecting job hunting services on top of that is nuts.

She's nuts enough for a whole school class of people.
 
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Considering that was an utterly harmless cosplay cafe with a uniform was wasn't dubious in any sense (it was, in fact, somewhat related to genuine Japanese mainstream culture), if the teacher still forbade it, she should have a moral obligation to introduce Sakurada to another place paying roughly as much but that would be fitting for her criteria. If she can't do that much, how can she pretend to uphold higher morals? That is, of course, assuming Sakurada (or any student) isn't horribly failing at her studies.
I agree she should have helped her look for a different part time job, but kunoichi cosplay doesn't feels that wholesome so i can't blame her for the ban, also she was meant to get the permission before getting the job, if she already had bad grades, which we know she does since she had to take remedial lessons, she was doomed from the start, the cosplay motif was just an extra obstacle
 
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LOL i get it if they can't work 'suspicious jobs' but you'd think some schools would encourage ppl to work

Tho other than late hours or weekends only/holidays idk who many ppl would wanna hire some teen versus a recently graduated student versus maybe the parents also owning their own small business/restaurant

But also surprised Sensei wouldn't tell that other girl she can't be a youtuber
 
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HOLY JESUS! Yuzuchiri-sensei has REALLY been daring lately. Hope this gets an anime adaptation.
 
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One of these things that could only happen in manga, but I really love the idea of a cosplay café that lets encourages the servers to use smoke bombs in the middle of the serving area. Total mayhem.
"Here have some stinky smoke cloud surrounding you while you're eating/drinking ! What ? You didn't expect that when coming to a ninja-themed café ?"
 

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