Murdist: Shikeishuu Kazami Tazuru

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This entire story seems pointless. None of this really needed to happen, no one of any real "value" in this story dies, none of the characters are affected by any of the terrible events that happen in the end, and none of the characters besides Kazami and Koto have any real "deep dives" (if you could call this deep) into their motives. And even after their motives are revealed it doesn't really clear up the reasons as to why the plot unfolded in such a way. It just doesn't make sense.
 
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This entire story seems pointless. None of this really needed to happen, no one of any real "value" in this story dies, none of the characters are affected by any of the terrible events that happen in the end, and none of the characters besides Kazami and Koto have any real "deep dives" (if you could call this deep) into their motives. And even after their motives are revealed it doesn't really clear up the reasons as to why the plot unfolded in such a way. It just doesn't make sense.
Bro think by urself, u haven't understood the end at all, u must to think bout the real message behind and what is purpose, I'M BEGGIN' YA BRO
 
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It's now been two years since I finished the SL on this series, but to be honest, I'm still not quite sure what to think of it. The premise is interesting and the art is great, but what really was the point of anything that happens in the story itself?

All that really ends up happening is more people are killed for no apparent reason, we get no real understanding of Kazami beyond the fact that she did things, and the only relevant characters remaining don't really do anything to resolve the moral panic happening outside the prison walls besides enable a deus ex machina.

And who even is Koto really? All we see from this is that she was fascinated by Kazami after seeing her eat someone's brain, fuck off with her for two years with no contact with anyone, then goes to prison and is a very good actor? The whole ending with Kazami being revealed to just stop cuz she was bored ig (???) then playing a whole convoluted game that just ruins Asagao's life or smth (seriously what happened to him) just to mess with her girlfriend one last time (?????), none of it feels like it makes any sense, and the characters don't really feel like they developed over the story in a meaningful way that would justify a grand speech about living life and not killing at the end from, to remind us all again, the mass murderer of 89 + Koto's victims by asdociation, who didn't show any sign of remorse even at the end. Just what the hell.

I just don't know what to think about it all. The whole story and characters just feel pointless, and if that was the author's intention, you know what, bravo, ya got me. The ride was a rollercoaster in the worst way: all thrills, and cool while it lasts, but you just end up right where you start. What a shame.
 
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I think the overall plot line and twists work, but there ends up being some disconnect between the themes, so the story doesn’t work on that deeper level.
Kazami’s murders and the copycat murders consistently involve themes of identity, freedom, and outside structures.
Doll murder = she makes some obvious comments about societal control and why she picked a high school girl for her original murder.
Clothing murder = “the clothes choose you”
Chair murder = “chairs fix people in place”
Body parts made into one person, random choice used to decide things instead of your own intellect.

You have to assume it’s all supposed to connect to the fact that the two main characters aren’t who they say they are, but then it just…doesn’t? Kazami seems entirely confident that she’s Kazami (despite playing someone else for a year), and that Koto is Koto. We’re constantly given these philosophical arguments about Identity, but then the manga seems to throw all of that out so the scenes at the end can be sappy and meaningful. Kazami doesn’t seem to believe in her own thesis (or I guess maybe since she’s murdered 89 people she’s figured out her questions about identity properly and feels really secure in the existence of a true self).
There’s just no point in belaboring the idea of identity if the characters exist in a world where they can just hop back into being their true selves. It means that there wasn’t anything to be worried about (unless you’re specifically a guy who’s secretly a hypnotized serial killer girl, but that’s not true for most people).

Also Koto should have gone to jail. Sorry Koto
Asagao is the real person who got distorted over the course of the story. Did the beauty of girl’s love make him forget about “accessory to murder” being a crime


P.S. I think “Asagao Nemuro” is a reference to the manga “Mori no Asagao”, a manga about death row inmates which earned acclaim. It also happens to be on mangadex!
 

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