Mushoku Tensei ~Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu~ - Vol. 13 Ch. 62 - Beneath the Mask
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@RigobertoParedes "This went from:
>> Super motherfucker drama, tragedy, action, adventure around the continents and more fucking drama that will make you furious and cry<<
To:
>> Slice of life, "I cannot let him see my face bc I'm stupid", "Am I gay? I think I'm, but still ain't boner"<<
I hope this crap end soon but it seems like... No it's not.
Lol! Best definition of the series.
It remember me that even before this arc, the worst 3 chapters of all 1-50 so far was... the introduction of Ariel and Fittz.
That was just an appetizer of what was to come...
Hopefully, i can tell without spoilers that by the end this arc and fowards, the history come back to "HIPER motherfucker drama, MEGA tragedy, ULTRA PLUS action, adventure around the continents and REALLY more fucking drama that will make you furious and CRY A LOT<<
If you guys are a bit tired, PLEASE DONT DROP, but, set an alarm for 2023 and come back.
>> Super motherfucker drama, tragedy, action, adventure around the continents and more fucking drama that will make you furious and cry<<
To:
>> Slice of life, "I cannot let him see my face bc I'm stupid", "Am I gay? I think I'm, but still ain't boner"<<
I hope this crap end soon but it seems like... No it's not.
Lol! Best definition of the series.
It remember me that even before this arc, the worst 3 chapters of all 1-50 so far was... the introduction of Ariel and Fittz.
That was just an appetizer of what was to come...
Hopefully, i can tell without spoilers that by the end this arc and fowards, the history come back to "HIPER motherfucker drama, MEGA tragedy, ULTRA PLUS action, adventure around the continents and REALLY more fucking drama that will make you furious and CRY A LOT<<
If you guys are a bit tired, PLEASE DONT DROP, but, set an alarm for 2023 and come back.
@adfjs
I never even bothered about the reasoning, until someone else brought it up. My bad for responding to straw man arguments, I suppose.
I'm not mad. You seemed a little petty is all. Couldn't fault my logic, so you wrote paragraphs dismissing the example. A simple "that example is wrong" would suffice.
Well, you sure aren't a linguist. You don't even know the definitions of 'responsibility' and 'consequence', after all. That has been the bulk of our disagreement, not some difference of opinion on reasoning.
I never said you disagreed on her not telling Rudy. I merely restated my only argument, until it all got derailed by straw men. Again, I don't give a shit about why, only that she chose this and needs to live with the consequences. Argue all you want about reasoning, but don't fucking confuse 'responsibility' with 'consequence', fool.
I never even bothered about the reasoning, until someone else brought it up. My bad for responding to straw man arguments, I suppose.
I'm not mad. You seemed a little petty is all. Couldn't fault my logic, so you wrote paragraphs dismissing the example. A simple "that example is wrong" would suffice.
Well, you sure aren't a linguist. You don't even know the definitions of 'responsibility' and 'consequence', after all. That has been the bulk of our disagreement, not some difference of opinion on reasoning.
I never said you disagreed on her not telling Rudy. I merely restated my only argument, until it all got derailed by straw men. Again, I don't give a shit about why, only that she chose this and needs to live with the consequences. Argue all you want about reasoning, but don't fucking confuse 'responsibility' with 'consequence', fool.
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Mfw Rudeus has to go through shit and suffer and people get angry when he gets to enjoy life. You guys are gonna enjoy the next parts.
Cant wait for the marriage and the trip to Begaritto.
@cor3zone I said it's basically the same for the scale and many circumstances considering the peasants actually being a part of the reasoning why some wars were waged with them even supporting it and some mindset of the many of them back then, it's not far off the mark. I've literally said that taking "responsibilities" like I was using it is going to apply to situations like those. Calling someone a fool for knowing his stuff is kind of hilarious though.
If I sounded petty (even though I'm not), then you'll just have to excuse me since I've seen and heard those examples and its variations thrown around more times than I'd wish to (granted, on differing topics) and I doubt saying "I'm a professional and your example is invalid" would've been productive either. There's also the fact that since I've heard those things thrown around a lot that I wished to correct such ignorance so it ended up with that length. Believe it or not, I've already cut down a lot in that paragraph because of how many things I've listed but I'd rather not turn this into one of my lectures in the university. I'm simply passionate about what I do and you'd be able to see many professionals act the same way if the topics of their studies were bastardized like it was with history.
If I sounded petty (even though I'm not), then you'll just have to excuse me since I've seen and heard those examples and its variations thrown around more times than I'd wish to (granted, on differing topics) and I doubt saying "I'm a professional and your example is invalid" would've been productive either. There's also the fact that since I've heard those things thrown around a lot that I wished to correct such ignorance so it ended up with that length. Believe it or not, I've already cut down a lot in that paragraph because of how many things I've listed but I'd rather not turn this into one of my lectures in the university. I'm simply passionate about what I do and you'd be able to see many professionals act the same way if the topics of their studies were bastardized like it was with history.
@Grenzoocoon I agree. So many people don't want to give the MC a break 😅
Yes, and I also can't wait for the Oldeus arc.
@adfjs
Well, I'm passionate about logic. Saying someone is responsible for a decision simply because the decision maker considered them before making it, is just utterly illogical. If you decide something while considering me but I don't actually get a say in the matter, I am not responsible for your decision. Unless the princess makes the decision for Sylphie, she is not responsible.
Responsibility: "blame for something bad that has happened"
Consequence: "a result of something that has happened, especially an unpleasant result"
Those are the Oxford University definitions. The king has responsibility; he is to blame. The peasant faces the consequence; he has to live with the result. Sylphie has responsibility for her decision, the princess faces the consequence. It's literally that simple. My example was wrong, but your logic was wrong in this instance.
Well, I'm passionate about logic. Saying someone is responsible for a decision simply because the decision maker considered them before making it, is just utterly illogical. If you decide something while considering me but I don't actually get a say in the matter, I am not responsible for your decision. Unless the princess makes the decision for Sylphie, she is not responsible.
They don't take responsibility; they suffer the consequences. The king has all the authority, all the responsibility. The only way the peasants would be responsible, is if they revolted against the king and went to war by their own decision. Literally, by being subjects they hand all of the responsibility for major decisions to the king. Like the princess handed responsibility for this single decision to Sylphie by giving permission.
Responsibility: "blame for something bad that has happened"
Consequence: "a result of something that has happened, especially an unpleasant result"
Those are the Oxford University definitions. The king has responsibility; he is to blame. The peasant faces the consequence; he has to live with the result. Sylphie has responsibility for her decision, the princess faces the consequence. It's literally that simple. My example was wrong, but your logic was wrong in this instance.
@cor3zone Yes, continue using kings and peasants as examples when you've been shown to be inept at it multiple times now. For someone so passionate about logic, you sure don't use it effectively. Dictionary definition is secondary to context especially if we're talking about cultures from history. I'm just saying in case you didn't know.
Oh well, I'd like to continue this conversation but I'm afraid that I'll have to leave you to your little Dunning-Kruger bubble. If searching up Google with no context whatsoever makes you feel smarter then you're free to do so. It's all it really takes to be at the tip of the graph. Let's just call it quits here.
Oh well, I'd like to continue this conversation but I'm afraid that I'll have to leave you to your little Dunning-Kruger bubble. If searching up Google with no context whatsoever makes you feel smarter then you're free to do so. It's all it really takes to be at the tip of the graph. Let's just call it quits here.
@adfjs
I literally quoted your comment, using the definition of the word you used. In the context you used it, 'responsibility' = 'blame for a result'. They take responsibility for the king's decision, by suffering the effects of it? Sorry to resort to ad hominem, but seeing as you started it, you really are fucking stupid.
Edit: I realised I probably should clarify, for your sake. There are two definitions of responsibility. If you have responsibility, you have a duty to do something. Like your example, the peasants have a duty to follow through with the king's decision. If you take responsibility, i.e. literally what you wrote: "they take responsibility", you are to blame for something. Those are two separate things. Cultural context doesn't factor into it at all, since we are living in the present using modern definitions of words. Repeat, we are discussing right now, not in your precious history. If the word changed meaning, you adapt to modern meanings.
Also, seeing as I actually conceded when I was wrong, but you didn't despite being proven blatantly wrong, I wonder who is stuck in a "little Dunning-Kruger bubble"?
I literally quoted your comment, using the definition of the word you used. In the context you used it, 'responsibility' = 'blame for a result'. They take responsibility for the king's decision, by suffering the effects of it? Sorry to resort to ad hominem, but seeing as you started it, you really are fucking stupid.
Edit: I realised I probably should clarify, for your sake. There are two definitions of responsibility. If you have responsibility, you have a duty to do something. Like your example, the peasants have a duty to follow through with the king's decision. If you take responsibility, i.e. literally what you wrote: "they take responsibility", you are to blame for something. Those are two separate things. Cultural context doesn't factor into it at all, since we are living in the present using modern definitions of words. Repeat, we are discussing right now, not in your precious history. If the word changed meaning, you adapt to modern meanings.
Also, seeing as I actually conceded when I was wrong, but you didn't despite being proven blatantly wrong, I wonder who is stuck in a "little Dunning-Kruger bubble"?
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